Stopping Bernie and Beating trump is the same thing.
Running Biden = Losing to Trump
You can’t possibly believe that? How does Bernie beat Team Trump Treason when he can’t even win the dem primary? Delusional.
The only reason Biden started to win primaries was because American voters are generally pretty uninformed and easily fall victim to media fear-mongering. The surprise, last-minute endorsements from O’Rourke, Klobuchar, Buttigieg also helped a lot. Hell, Biden himself pretty much gave all credit to their endorsements once he started winning.
Ah the old...everyone is dumber than me and if my candidate isn't winning it's because people are uninformed argument. That's a dumb argument.
“I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden],” said Rogan. “I don’t think [Biden] can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fuck he’ll be like after a year in office.
“The pressure of being president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for. The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough.”
The president is 73 but Rogan said: “He doesn’t seem to be aging at all or in any sort of decline. Obama, almost immediately, started looking older. George W [Bush], almost immediately, started looking older.”
Stopping Bernie and Beating trump is the same thing.
Running Biden = Losing to Trump
You can’t possibly believe that? How does Bernie beat Team Trump Treason when he can’t even win the dem primary? Delusional.
The only reason Biden started to win primaries was because American voters are generally pretty uninformed and easily fall victim to media fear-mongering. The surprise, last-minute endorsements from O’Rourke, Klobuchar, Buttigieg also helped a lot. Hell, Biden himself pretty much gave all credit to their endorsements once he started winning.
Ah the old...everyone is dumber than me and if my candidate isn't winning it's because people are uninformed argument. That's a dumb argument.
No, not everyone. But the people who made up their mind between the day-before endorsements and the next day’s primaries are who I’m referring to. And they’re not dumb. Just misinformed victims of “Bernie can’t win” fear-mongering.
“I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden],” said Rogan. “I don’t think [Biden] can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fuck he’ll be like after a year in office.
“The pressure of being president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for. The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough.”
The president is 73 but Rogan said: “He doesn’t seem to be aging at all or in any sort of decline. Obama, almost immediately, started looking older. George W [Bush], almost immediately, started looking older.”
Stopping Bernie and Beating trump is the same thing.
Running Biden = Losing to Trump
You can’t possibly believe that? How does Bernie beat Team Trump Treason when he can’t even win the dem primary? Delusional.
The only reason Biden started to win primaries was because American voters are generally pretty uninformed and easily fall victim to media fear-mongering. The surprise, last-minute endorsements from O’Rourke, Klobuchar, Buttigieg also helped a lot. Hell, Biden himself pretty much gave all credit to their endorsements once he started winning.
Ah the old...everyone is dumber than me and if my candidate isn't winning it's because people are uninformed argument. That's a dumb argument.
No, not everyone. But the people who made up their mind between the day-before endorsements and the next day’s primaries are who I’m referring to. And they’re not dumb. Just misinformed victims of “Bernie can’t win” fear-mongering.
But Bernie already failed to win the Dem nomination in 2016 and has failed again. You can't win the general election by losing your (fake) party's nomination. He has failed. His best bet is to put his efforts into getting a Democratic president and pushing his own agenda through them as much as possible.
“I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden],” said Rogan. “I don’t think [Biden] can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fuck he’ll be like after a year in office.
“The pressure of being president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for. The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough.”
The president is 73 but Rogan said: “He doesn’t seem to be aging at all or in any sort of decline. Obama, almost immediately, started looking older. George W [Bush], almost immediately, started looking older.”
And?
And what? That's really not enough for you? You agree with that or don't think that's not the words of a certifiable "moran"? Trump has handled the pressure of being president well because he hasn't got as much grey hair as Obama and Bush did. The guy that wears a wig and paints himself orange? They could only be the metrics of a "moran".
How about the fact he was a birther?
The guy also hasn't met a conspiracy theory he doesn't like.
Has Biden’s bleeding eye given out yet, popping out of his dome to make way for his melting brain?
Has Biden stopped inappropriately touching and smelling women and children yet?
Has Biden stopped lying about things he said or things he never did?
Has Biden realized the importance of m4a yet or will he continue to serve his donors?
Biden needs to drop out.
If all those things you say about Biden are true
Bernie must really be a terrible candidate, because Bernie's going to lose to Biden
How will you feel when Bernie supports Biden like he promised?
Speaking of lying....where are Bernie's medical records like he promised?
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“I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden],” said Rogan. “I don’t think [Biden] can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fuck he’ll be like after a year in office.
“The pressure of being president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for. The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough.”
The president is 73 but Rogan said: “He doesn’t seem to be aging at all or in any sort of decline. Obama, almost immediately, started looking older. George W [Bush], almost immediately, started looking older.”
And?
And what? That's really not enough for you? You agree with that or don't think that's not the words of a certifiable "moran"? Trump has handled the pressure of being president well because he hasn't got as much grey hair as Obama and Bush did. The guy that wears a wig and paints himself orange? They could only be the metrics of a "moran".
How about the fact he was a birther?
The guy also hasn't met a conspiracy theory he doesn't like.
He, a comedian first and foremost, tweeted one thing entertaining the notion of birtherism....and that was how long ago?
he actually doesn’t subscribe to many conspiracy theories anymore, or at least not as much as he used to. He does discuss them, though. I know, the horror, right?
I think he overlooked the fact that Trump is heavily made up and fake, sure, but I don’t think that makes him a “moran.” Did you never say anything in a 2-3 hour unedited conversation, probably while stoned, that you looked back on and thought “eh, I was a bit off there?”
“I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden],” said Rogan. “I don’t think [Biden] can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fuck he’ll be like after a year in office.
“The pressure of being president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for. The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough.”
The president is 73 but Rogan said: “He doesn’t seem to be aging at all or in any sort of decline. Obama, almost immediately, started looking older. George W [Bush], almost immediately, started looking older.”
And?
And what? That's really not enough for you? You agree with that or don't think that's not the words of a certifiable "moran"? Trump has handled the pressure of being president well because he hasn't got as much grey hair as Obama and Bush did. The guy that wears a wig and paints himself orange? They could only be the metrics of a "moran".
How about the fact he was a birther?
The guy also hasn't met a conspiracy theory he doesn't like.
He, a comedian first and foremost, tweeted one thing entertaining the notion of birtherism....and that was how long ago?
he actually doesn’t subscribe to many conspiracy theories anymore, or at least not as much as he used to. He does discuss them, though. I know, the horror, right?
I think he overlooked the fact that Trump is heavily made up and fake, sure, but I don’t think that makes him a “moran.” Did you never say anything in a 2-3 hour unedited conversation, probably while stoned, that you looked back on and thought “eh, I was a bit off there?”
You guys get hung up on the silliest of shit.
The guy thought saunas would stop the coronavirus. Probably gurgling salt water right now to kill it.
bernie is not doing as well as he did in 2016. he should drop out now and save himself and his followers the embarrassment of getting further trounced by biden. bernie should stop being so selfish. i voted for bernie in the 2016 and 2020 primaries, so don't fucking @ me.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
“I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden],” said Rogan. “I don’t think [Biden] can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fuck he’ll be like after a year in office.
“The pressure of being president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for. The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough.”
The president is 73 but Rogan said: “He doesn’t seem to be aging at all or in any sort of decline. Obama, almost immediately, started looking older. George W [Bush], almost immediately, started looking older.”
And?
And what? That's really not enough for you? You agree with that or don't think that's not the words of a certifiable "moran"? Trump has handled the pressure of being president well because he hasn't got as much grey hair as Obama and Bush did. The guy that wears a wig and paints himself orange? They could only be the metrics of a "moran".
How about the fact he was a birther?
The guy also hasn't met a conspiracy theory he doesn't like.
He, a comedian first and foremost, tweeted one thing entertaining the notion of birtherism....and that was how long ago?
he actually doesn’t subscribe to many conspiracy theories anymore, or at least not as much as he used to. He does discuss them, though. I know, the horror, right?
I think he overlooked the fact that Trump is heavily made up and fake, sure, but I don’t think that makes him a “moran.” Did you never say anything in a 2-3 hour unedited conversation, probably while stoned, that you looked back on and thought “eh, I was a bit off there?”
You guys get hung up on the silliest of shit.
The guy thought saunas would stop the coronavirus. Probably gurgling salt water right now to kill it.
Haha, nahhhh. He read peoples’ claims online about the effectiveness of saunas and brought it up to a doctor for clarification.
bernie is not doing as well as he did in 2016. he should drop out now and save himself and his followers the embarrassment of getting further trounced by biden. bernie should stop being so selfish. i voted for bernie in the 2016 and 2020 primaries, so don't fucking @ me.
With all due respect, I don’t believe he’s being selfish. I think he’s truly the only one with the peoples’ interest in mind at this point and that’s why he’s stayed in so far.
Has Biden’s bleeding eye given out yet, popping out of his dome to make way for his melting brain?
Has Biden stopped inappropriately touching and smelling women and children yet?
Has Biden stopped lying about things he said or things he never did?
Has Biden realized the importance of m4a yet or will he continue to serve his donors?
Biden needs to drop out.
If all those things you say about Biden are true
Bernie must really be a terrible candidate, because Bernie's going to lose to Biden
You live in a country where as a basic thing as tax-funded healthcare isn't a thing in the year of the lord 2020.
Now ask yourself the question -- have people ever voted in politicians that aren't terrible candidates in your country.
ACA is tax-funded healthcare Medicare is tax-funded healthcare Medicaid is tax-funded healthcare CHIP is tax-funded healthcare
If you're going to engage in political discussion about the US, at least get your facts straight first
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Has Biden’s bleeding eye given out yet, popping out of his dome to make way for his melting brain?
Has Biden stopped inappropriately touching and smelling women and children yet?
Has Biden stopped lying about things he said or things he never did?
Has Biden realized the importance of m4a yet or will he continue to serve his donors?
Biden needs to drop out.
If all those things you say about Biden are true
Bernie must really be a terrible candidate, because Bernie's going to lose to Biden
You live in a country where as a basic thing as tax-funded healthcare isn't a thing in the year of the lord 2020.
Now ask yourself the question -- have people ever voted in politicians that aren't terrible candidates in your country.
ACA is tax-funded healthcare Medicare is tax-funded healthcare Medicaid is tax-funded healthcare CHIP is tax-funded healthcare
If you're going to engage in political discussion about the US, at least get your facts straight first
Federal Employees Health Benefits Program is tax-funded healthcare
Indian Health Service is tax-funded healthcare
Tricare is tax-funded healthcare
Program of All-inclusive Care for the Elderly (PACE) is tax-funded healthcare
Veterans Health Administration is tax-funded healthcare
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It absolutely is. I was making under $23k/year and paying close to $4,800 for coverage through ACA. I realize that high cost was due to my insurer but ACA allows that to happen.
Has Biden’s bleeding eye given out yet, popping out of his dome to make way for his melting brain?
Has Biden stopped inappropriately touching and smelling women and children yet?
Has Biden stopped lying about things he said or things he never did?
Has Biden realized the importance of m4a yet or will he continue to serve his donors?
Biden needs to drop out.
If all those things you say about Biden are true
Bernie must really be a terrible candidate, because Bernie's going to lose to Biden
You live in a country where as a basic thing as tax-funded healthcare isn't a thing in the year of the lord 2020.
Now ask yourself the question -- have people ever voted in politicians that aren't terrible candidates in your country.
ACA is tax-funded healthcare Medicare is tax-funded healthcare Medicaid is tax-funded healthcare CHIP is tax-funded healthcare
If you're going to engage in political discussion about the US, at least get your facts straight first
ACA is a failure, overall.
why not just expand Medicare to cover everyone?
excuse me? ACA is a failure?
just before taking my new job in sales 5 month ago i worked for a pediatric orthopedic surgeon. many of our patients were either on medicaid, or a form of the ACA. the ACA allowed us to not only evaluate those kids, but also correct their injuries surgically. if there were no ACA they would have been uninsured and had no access to treatment. the only reason the ACA is doing poorly is because REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS are resisting it and the medicaid expansion. TRUMP is not enforcing the mandate that everyone pay in. trump is trying to kill it now through the courts. the supreme court upheld the law, now trump and a handful of republican governors are in a lawsuit trying to kill it and take health insurance away from millions of people and replace it with nothing. also, trump is not opening up the ACA enrollment.
if everyone abided by the rules it would be fine. but republicans are trying to kill it. do not get it twisted. this is the exact same law that romney signed in MA but on a national level.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
It absolutely is. I was making under $23k/year and paying close to $4,800 for coverage through ACA. I realize that high cost was due to my insurer but ACA allows that to happen.
You could always opt out. How much is private health insurance?
Mine is $1824 annually. It also hasn't increased significantly since ACA was enacted.
Or have you considered increasing your income?
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Has Biden’s bleeding eye given out yet, popping out of his dome to make way for his melting brain?
Has Biden stopped inappropriately touching and smelling women and children yet?
Has Biden stopped lying about things he said or things he never did?
Has Biden realized the importance of m4a yet or will he continue to serve his donors?
Biden needs to drop out.
If all those things you say about Biden are true
Bernie must really be a terrible candidate, because Bernie's going to lose to Biden
You live in a country where as a basic thing as tax-funded healthcare isn't a thing in the year of the lord 2020.
Now ask yourself the question -- have people ever voted in politicians that aren't terrible candidates in your country.
ACA is tax-funded healthcare Medicare is tax-funded healthcare Medicaid is tax-funded healthcare CHIP is tax-funded healthcare
If you're going to engage in political discussion about the US, at least get your facts straight first
ACA is a failure, overall.
why not just expand Medicare to cover everyone?
excuse me? ACA is a failure?
just before taking my new job in sales 5 month ago i worked for a pediatric orthopedic surgeon. many of our patients were either on medicaid, or a form of the ACA. the ACA allowed us to not only evaluate those kids, but also correct their injuries surgically. if there were no ACA they would have been uninsured and had no access to treatment. the only reason the ACA is doing poorly is because REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS are resisting it and the medicaid expansion. TRUMP is not enforcing the mandate that everyone pay in. trump is trying to kill it now through the courts. the supreme court upheld the law, now trump and a handful of republican governors are in a lawsuit trying to kill it and take health insurance away from millions of people and replace it with nothing. also, trump is not opening up the ACA enrollment.
if everyone abided by the rules it would be fine. but republicans are trying to kill it. do not get it twisted. this is the exact same law that romney signed in MA but on a national level.
It was a failure, overall, yes, even when I needed it for coverage and that was from when it was implemented up until 2015. It doesn’t go far enough in who it really helps and it never really has.
As someone with no coverage otherwise I felt forced into it and then left at the mercy of a greedy insurance provider.
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This is the thread topic. Stop talking about each other and go back to the topic please. Many are suggesting that it's past time for Senator Sanders to end his campaign and also suggest his supporters support the Democratic nominee. Will he do that? Will they vote for the nominee? Will they vote at all or stay home?
This wasn't a suggestion. Do not use any words about another member or members here. Just leave it out of your thinking and be sure to edit your posts before submitting. I don't want to do timeouts.
It absolutely is. I was making under $23k/year and paying close to $4,800 for coverage through ACA. I realize that high cost was due to my insurer but ACA allows that to happen.
You could always opt out. How much is private health insurance?
Mine is $1824 annually. It also hasn't increased significantly since ACA was enacted.
Or have you considered increasing your income?
I don’t have insurance through ACA anymore. I now pay under $2,200/year through my employer and that covers my family of 5.
Before, under the ACA, where it was only coverage for me, I watched the cost skyrocket every few months until I couldn’t even afford to pay it. I owed thousands to my provider and luckily for me, I guess, they went bankrupt and I didn’t have to pay.
So while the ACA greatly benefits many who need it, and that’s truly wonderful, it was my experience and the experience of many others, that it didn’t go far enough in how or who it helped.
Is increasing one’s income as easy as flicking a switch to you?
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But this right here? Enough said.
“I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden],” said Rogan. “I don’t think [Biden] can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the fuck he’ll be like after a year in office.
“The pressure of being president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for. The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough.”
The president is 73 but Rogan said: “He doesn’t seem to be aging at all or in any sort of decline. Obama, almost immediately, started looking older. George W [Bush], almost immediately, started looking older.”
How about the fact he was a birther?
The guy also hasn't met a conspiracy theory he doesn't like.
If all those things you say about Biden are true
Bernie must really be a terrible candidate, because Bernie's going to lose to Biden
How will you feel when Bernie supports Biden like he promised?
Speaking of lying....where are Bernie's medical records like he promised?
he actually doesn’t subscribe to many conspiracy theories anymore, or at least not as much as he used to. He does discuss them, though. I know, the horror, right?
I think he overlooked the fact that Trump is heavily made up and fake, sure, but I don’t think that makes him a “moran.” Did you never say anything in a 2-3 hour unedited conversation, probably while stoned, that you looked back on and thought “eh, I was a bit off there?”
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Now ask yourself the question -- have people ever voted in politicians that aren't terrible candidates in your country.
Medicare is tax-funded healthcare
Medicaid is tax-funded healthcare
CHIP is tax-funded healthcare
If you're going to engage in political discussion about the US, at least get your facts straight first
why not just expand Medicare to cover everyone?
I should have known you were gonna bang the table.
Republicans
just before taking my new job in sales 5 month ago i worked for a pediatric orthopedic surgeon. many of our patients were either on medicaid, or a form of the ACA. the ACA allowed us to not only evaluate those kids, but also correct their injuries surgically. if there were no ACA they would have been uninsured and had no access to treatment. the only reason the ACA is doing poorly is because REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS are resisting it and the medicaid expansion. TRUMP is not enforcing the mandate that everyone pay in. trump is trying to kill it now through the courts. the supreme court upheld the law, now trump and a handful of republican governors are in a lawsuit trying to kill it and take health insurance away from millions of people and replace it with nothing. also, trump is not opening up the ACA enrollment.
if everyone abided by the rules it would be fine. but republicans are trying to kill it. do not get it twisted. this is the exact same law that romney signed in MA but on a national level.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Mine is $1824 annually. It also hasn't increased significantly since ACA was enacted.
Or have you considered increasing your income?
As someone with no coverage otherwise I felt forced into it and then left at the mercy of a greedy insurance provider.
So while the ACA greatly benefits many who need it, and that’s truly wonderful, it was my experience and the experience of many others, that it didn’t go far enough in how or who it helped.
Is increasing one’s income as easy as flicking a switch to you?