More Important: Beating Trump or Stopping Bernie?

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  • EarlWelsh
    EarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    edited March 2020
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    closing quote from the article above.....

    “Everyone should stop pretending that Bernie is doing anything other than helping Bernie,” Reines said.

    He's a useful idiot, helping Trump also
    This is helping Trump




    https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc

    https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA

    So your defense is videos of Trump’s brain ALSO melting? Did anyone here even say they were a supporter of Trump? 🤦🏻‍♂️
    Post edited by EarlWelsh on
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    closing quote from the article above.....

    “Everyone should stop pretending that Bernie is doing anything other than helping Bernie,” Reines said.

    He's a useful idiot, helping Trump also
    This is helping Trump




    https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc

    https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA

    So your defense is videos of Trump’s brain ALSO melting? Did anyone here even say they were a supporter of Trump? 🤦🏻‍♂️
    modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
  • EarlWelsh
    EarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    closing quote from the article above.....

    “Everyone should stop pretending that Bernie is doing anything other than helping Bernie,” Reines said.

    He's a useful idiot, helping Trump also
    This is helping Trump




    https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc

    https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA

    So your defense is videos of Trump’s brain ALSO melting? Did anyone here even say they were a supporter of Trump? 🤦🏻‍♂️
    modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    I’m aware, and this ain’t it. Also, what does conservatism have to do with me?
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    closing quote from the article above.....

    “Everyone should stop pretending that Bernie is doing anything other than helping Bernie,” Reines said.

    He's a useful idiot, helping Trump also
    This is helping Trump




    https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc

    https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA

    So your defense is videos of Trump’s brain ALSO melting? Did anyone here even say they were a supporter of Trump? 🤦🏻‍♂️
    modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    I’m aware, and this ain’t it. Also, what does conservatism have to do with me?
    You seem to be easily distracted
  • EarlWelsh
    EarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    closing quote from the article above.....

    “Everyone should stop pretending that Bernie is doing anything other than helping Bernie,” Reines said.

    He's a useful idiot, helping Trump also
    This is helping Trump




    https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc

    https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA

    So your defense is videos of Trump’s brain ALSO melting? Did anyone here even say they were a supporter of Trump? 🤦🏻‍♂️
    modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    I’m aware, and this ain’t it. Also, what does conservatism have to do with me?
    You seem to be easily distracted
    And you’re a broken record but, please, explain how I’m distracted.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    closing quote from the article above.....

    “Everyone should stop pretending that Bernie is doing anything other than helping Bernie,” Reines said.

    He's a useful idiot, helping Trump also
    This is helping Trump




    https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc

    https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA

    So your defense is videos of Trump’s brain ALSO melting? Did anyone here even say they were a supporter of Trump? 🤦🏻‍♂️
    modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    I’m aware, and this ain’t it. Also, what does conservatism have to do with me?
    You seem to be easily distracted
    And you’re a broken record but, please, explain how I’m distracted.
    Here is Biden's actual medical history:
    https://go.joebiden.com/page/-/CiU2iAa4Ig_%20j5EQzueoad.pdf

    ....now let's see tRUmp's....
    specifically I'd like to know about his unplanned visit last November
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited March 2020
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I hope Bernie wins, we need a shift back towards the left in the world.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    I hope Bernie wins, we need a shift back towards the left in the world.
    Bernie already lost. Twice now. 

    He needs to drop out.

    Bernie staying in the race only helps tRUmp now. 
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Whoever leads the Democrats then. The world has swung too far to the right in recent years and it worries me.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?
    No idea what you're going on about.

    This isn't new, Biden has always had it.

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited April 2020
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,076
    Beating Trump in the fall
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  
    Scio me nihil scire

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