Pearl Jam is returning to Europe in 2020
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fortyshades said:josevolution said:Italy is not gonna be all clear by June July or August, people have to just be realistic..I know I wouldn’t be comfortable being in a crowd even come September I’m sorry but that’s how I see it..
I hope they don't come for the risk is way too high. The Netherlands takes the same approach as Italy with the false presumption of Mass immunity that has been dismissed by the WHO. (Other European countries took different policies.) But as always the Dutch know it "better". I am Dutch, but I am also a scholar (even sent my last academic book to PJ.) I am now working on an international platform with viruologists and epidemiologists (sp - late at night here and tired) to create awareness. Since some fellow Dutch citizens are stubborn (a cultural trade), I get a lot of hate email. My facebook is open anyone can read it, I collected a lot of data: https://www.facebook.com/anthonie.holslag . (Some posts are in English and others in Dutch. Google translate is a good tool.) Wanted to share an important graph but forum does not allow me, or I do not know how to do it. (I think I did it:not but not sure if it is ditect;y linked to the the post.) Curious if PJ received the book.I sent, since it includes decions by the state and how people follow it because cultural elements are internalized that creates a blind spot.
Numbers can be misleading. Country is smaller than Italy.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Australia could ban travel for up to 6 months. Could being the key word.0
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I also hope that they wait as long as they can, because obviously if they make a decision now, it can only be to cancel.
I also want to keep hoping as long as possible.
I just don't see why they would cancel before the festivals they play do.0 -
rahjiim said:I also hope that they wait as long as they can, because obviously if they make a decision now, it can only be to cancel.
I also want to keep hoping as long as possible.
I just don't see why they would cancel before the festivals they play do.
I am still waiting on a couple of festivals in the spring to cancel for May shows in North America. Really surprised to not have them officially cancel yet.0 -
PJNB said:rahjiim said:I also hope that they wait as long as they can, because obviously if they make a decision now, it can only be to cancel.
I also want to keep hoping as long as possible.
I just don't see why they would cancel before the festivals they play do.
I am still waiting on a couple of festivals in the spring to cancel for May shows in North America. Really surprised to not have them officially cancel yet.0 -
rahjiim said:PJNB said:rahjiim said:I also hope that they wait as long as they can, because obviously if they make a decision now, it can only be to cancel.
I also want to keep hoping as long as possible.
I just don't see why they would cancel before the festivals they play do.
I am still waiting on a couple of festivals in the spring to cancel for May shows in North America. Really surprised to not have them officially cancel yet.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230 -
kst said:rahjiim said:PJNB said:rahjiim said:I also hope that they wait as long as they can, because obviously if they make a decision now, it can only be to cancel.
I also want to keep hoping as long as possible.
I just don't see why they would cancel before the festivals they play do.
I am still waiting on a couple of festivals in the spring to cancel for May shows in North America. Really surprised to not have them officially cancel yet.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
josevolution said:kst said:rahjiim said:PJNB said:rahjiim said:I also hope that they wait as long as they can, because obviously if they make a decision now, it can only be to cancel.
I also want to keep hoping as long as possible.
I just don't see why they would cancel before the festivals they play do.
I am still waiting on a couple of festivals in the spring to cancel for May shows in North America. Really surprised to not have them officially cancel yet.0 -
josevolution said:kst said:rahjiim said:PJNB said:rahjiim said:I also hope that they wait as long as they can, because obviously if they make a decision now, it can only be to cancel.
I also want to keep hoping as long as possible.
I just don't see why they would cancel before the festivals they play do.
I am still waiting on a couple of festivals in the spring to cancel for May shows in North America. Really surprised to not have them officially cancel yet.0 -
Yes these shows are 100% not happening this summer.0
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rahjiim said:josevolution said:kst said:rahjiim said:PJNB said:rahjiim said:I also hope that they wait as long as they can, because obviously if they make a decision now, it can only be to cancel.
I also want to keep hoping as long as possible.
I just don't see why they would cancel before the festivals they play do.
I am still waiting on a couple of festivals in the spring to cancel for May shows in North America. Really surprised to not have them officially cancel yet.
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josevolution said:rahjiim said:josevolution said:kst said:rahjiim said:PJNB said:rahjiim said:I also hope that they wait as long as they can, because obviously if they make a decision now, it can only be to cancel.
I also want to keep hoping as long as possible.
I just don't see why they would cancel before the festivals they play do.
I am still waiting on a couple of festivals in the spring to cancel for May shows in North America. Really surprised to not have them officially cancel yet.0 -
rahjiim said:josevolution said:rahjiim said:josevolution said:kst said:rahjiim said:PJNB said:rahjiim said:I also hope that they wait as long as they can, because obviously if they make a decision now, it can only be to cancel.
I also want to keep hoping as long as possible.
I just don't see why they would cancel before the festivals they play do.
I am still waiting on a couple of festivals in the spring to cancel for May shows in North America. Really surprised to not have them officially cancel yet.
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The IOC has said the Tokyo games (keep as is, postpone, cancel) will be decided in the next 4 weeks. I know that’s a much bigger, more complicated event than a PJ tour, but it’s also a month later than the tour. I would be shocked if PJ doesn’t make a decision by April 15.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230 -
matt84 said:Yes these shows are 100% not happening this summer.Post edited by one_stone on0
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matt84 said:Yes these shows are 100% not happening this summer.
Like many others, I'm fine with quarantining at home. Going to the supermarket once a week or every ten days is the most stressful part of my week, as I can't help but think someone near me has travelled recently and is not following the health department's 14 day self isolation period; or that the person next to me is living with someone who is ill and is actually self isolating. I realize that this one stress of mine is mild compared to others out there and I sympathize for them.
I hope everyone is keeping safe where ever you may be. I feel really bad for all the folks working at Costco, supermarkets, in health care, and other businesses that are still open. These are very uncertain and unsettling days. Let's hope humanity becomes more humane sooner than later and less about social MEdia, so that people act in their community's best interests and not their own going forward.
It was a downer when Pearl Jam cancelled their tour, but it was the proactive and correct move. I'm anxious in a supermarket at the moment, there was no way I was going to attend a concert with 20,000 fans five days ago.
On the bright side, we all will have a new album to listen to at the end of this week
'Be kind, safe, and healthy everyone0 -
rahjiim said:PJNB said:rahjiim said:I also hope that they wait as long as they can, because obviously if they make a decision now, it can only be to cancel.
I also want to keep hoping as long as possible.
I just don't see why they would cancel before the festivals they play do.
I am still waiting on a couple of festivals in the spring to cancel for May shows in North America. Really surprised to not have them officially cancel yet.I think, because I heard something once, that they have insurances for these kind of things. Besides PJ postpones concerts, not cancel them. They will come to Europe eventually. I hope they plan to do Amsterdam last again. I also hope to see it for our half-baked goverment, stewing in their neo-liberal soup seems to be clueless. Belgium lock down. Germany lock down. Netherlands: keep distance from one another. Reality (I live near a big park) more than 100 people on the street. Playing tag, barbecuing, laughing, sharing beer. (It was a nice day that gave you the "spring itch".) The Dutch dont seem to realize that with corona you look into the past. The people you see now infected, were the once who contracted the virus two weeks ago. The people on the street and beaches today, we will see in upcoming weeks. It is going to be an humanitarian disaster. (No exateration.) There is a shortage of life support and bed *now:* wait three weeks down the road.If ypu want an update and compare it to other countries, look at this site: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR13E7ObvOxro10Ow9VBI3QS7SNdPr0zl9c-JXQyJoVMbyohXfk3rUulUAINotice the Dutch "closed cases" (with no lockdown) compared with France (with a lock down) Netherlands 2 recovered and 179 death. France: 2200 recoveries and 674 death. Still no lockdown in the Netherlands. In % this is: Netherlans closed cases - recovered 1% and dead 99%. France: 77% recovered and 23% fatalities. We have this neo-liberal party in the Netherlands that takes economy first, health second. And since the Dutch took the "herd immunity" approah, which is not scientifally validated, we are going downhill fast. May not even hear the damn album. The approach I heard is considered "survivest of the fittest". (That is how some politicians openly called it.) The last time I heard this phrase, stemming from an ideology. was Nazi Germany. And I should know for I am a genocide scholar.
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kst said:The IOC has said the Tokyo games (keep as is, postpone, cancel) will be decided in the next 4 weeks. I know that’s a much bigger, more complicated event than a PJ tour, but it’s also a month later than the tour. I would be shocked if PJ doesn’t make a decision by April 15.Post edited by RatherStarved onPJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230 -
If this happens we will be thrilled because Pearl Jam will only play if it is 100% safe to do so, we know they make the right decisions, we know they have safety at the forefront of everything and we know they don't take risks. So if by some miracle it goes ahead, the world will be back to normal.
If it doesnt, as we all expect, we will have new dates to look forward to and be excited about. Maybe even a winter tour......I dont recall the last time they played out here in the winter....it would make queuing at the early entry that little more interesting.....
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pdalowsky said:If this happens we will be thrilled because Pearl Jam will only play if it is 100% safe to do so, we know they make the right decisions, we know they have safety at the forefront of everything and we know they don't take risks. So if by some miracle it goes ahead, the world will be back to normal.
If it doesnt, as we all expect, we will have new dates to look forward to and be excited about. Maybe even a winter tour......I dont recall the last time they played out here in the winter....it would make queuing at the early entry that little more interesting.....0
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