mrussel1 said:

Not one county in FL, just like Michigan.  He even lost counties he won in 16, when he lost at about the same clip.  There really is no argument for Bernie as the message isn't resonating.  I respect the guy, for what he is.  But it's time to consolidate the party and move towards November.  There's no argument for his candidacy.

Yeah this was the end, but it was a good run going back to 2015. I enjoyed his “revolution” even if I didn’t agree with it all. Endorse Biden, get him to commit to some of your more reasonable policies, and campaign for him. 

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Is the Bernie surge happening?

yes it is. he went from winning no counties in florida to barely winning just one in illinois to barely winning 2 in arizona..... bernie is on the move......

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Is the Bernie surge happening?

So happy that people are rejecting Bernie.  Probably should be in the thread about what give us hope.

I get that not everyone likes Sanders, but your smug, self-congratulatory tone rings pretty empty during a global crisis that has exposed our glaring national weaknesses.
We have essentially no public health support system or emergency plan, we have a weakened social safety net, and we have millions of uninsured and under insured just waiting for disaster to strike.  All of those are concerns ignored by your candidates and championed by the one you so disdain.
On top of that, all the measures that are being taken and considered to alleviate the burden of this crisis fall under the dreaded "socialism" umbrella.
I wonder, will you reject the check if the government sends it?  Or will you cash it an pretend it doesn't conflict with the belief system you've vocalized so strongly?

democracy in action  actual democratic voters rejecting the carpetbagger not a democrat looking to hijack their party......

dignin said:

Bernie Sanders to 'assess' presidential campaign

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/politics/bernie-sanders-assess-2020-campaign/index.html

This is where I'd normally say something like "This is tantamount to the Detroit Tigers assessing their World Series chances," but it's uncertain that any team will have a chance at the World Series this year. 

dignin said:

Bernie Sanders to 'assess' presidential campaign

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/politics/bernie-sanders-assess-2020-campaign/index.html

Warren said the same thing the day before call it quits! 

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

democracy in action  actual democratic voters rejecting the carpetbagger not a democrat looking to hijack their party......

Biden primary popular votes 9.9 million
Sanders primary popular votes 7.5 million
thats hardly rejecting Sanders lol. Looks more like people are opting for the safe candidate. Either way I am voting against Trump. I think the actual numbers prove that Joe really needs to pick up a lot of Bernies policies that can be palatable to the rest of the play it safers.  To reject Sanders’ movement  and the 7+million voters as a fluke with no traction that America is “rejecting” is pretty dangerous if you really want to stop Trump. Biden is gonna need all the votes he can get not just the 9.9 million democratic primary votes.   You don’t beat Trump with only the support of Democratic Party loyalists.

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

democracy in action  actual democratic voters rejecting the carpetbagger not a democrat looking to hijack their party......

Biden primary popular votes 9.9 million
Sanders primary popular votes 7.5 million
thats hardly rejecting Sanders lol. Looks more like people are opting for the safe candidate. Either way I am voting against Trump. I think the actual numbers prove that Joe really needs to pick up a lot of Bernies policies that can be palatable to the rest of the play it safers.  To reject Sanders’ movement  and the 7+million voters as a fluke with no traction that America is “rejecting” is pretty dangerous if you really want to stop Trump. Biden is gonna need all the votes he can get not just the 9.9 million democratic primary votes.   You don’t beat Trump with only the support of Democratic Party loyalists.

Bernie was helped by a wide field.

popular vote is a convenientl talking point. look at the numbers by county.

I would argue voters have rejectedhim personally not his proposals

I've actually gotten the opposite vibe: that people feel he's a good guy and genuinely interested in helping the poor and the marginalized, but that his proposals to do it are so outlandish (with little explanation as to how they'll be accomplished) that he'd never win a general election. 

This is the overall vibe I get as well.

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

mickeyrat said:

democracy in action  actual democratic voters rejecting the carpetbagger not a democrat looking to hijack their party......

Biden primary popular votes 9.9 million
Sanders primary popular votes 7.5 million
thats hardly rejecting Sanders lol. Looks more like people are opting for the safe candidate. Either way I am voting against Trump. I think the actual numbers prove that Joe really needs to pick up a lot of Bernies policies that can be palatable to the rest of the play it safers.  To reject Sanders’ movement  and the 7+million voters as a fluke with no traction that America is “rejecting” is pretty dangerous if you really want to stop Trump. Biden is gonna need all the votes he can get not just the 9.9 million democratic primary votes.   You don’t beat Trump with only the support of Democratic Party loyalists.

Bernie was helped by a wide field.

popular vote is a convenientl talking point. look at the numbers by county.

I would argue voters have rejectedhim personally not his proposals

I've actually gotten the opposite vibe: that people feel he's a good guy and genuinely interested in helping the poor and the marginalized, but that his proposals to do it are so outlandish (with little explanation as to how they'll be accomplished) that he'd never win a general election. 

I think it's a bit of both:
1. Bernie has not made inroads with the black community or women.  That's on him.
2. White males have moved away from him, that tells you that 2016 was anti-Hillary for many
3. His voters are passionate and hard core.  I think a lot of people are ambivalent about him, although respect his passion.  That's where I am.  But I don't like ALL of his policies either. 

4. HE IS NOT A DEMOCRAT