More Important: Beating Trump or Stopping Bernie?
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EarlWelsh said:
Or someone works in any given field and gives to Bernie because they care about the overall betterment of society, regardless of how it benefits the particular sector they work in.CM189191 said:static111 said:
I believe this is the total number of all the individual donations based on donor occupation. Does a worker that happens to work in defense and donate to Bernie because he supports the agenda somehow represent defense industry special interests. Kind of distorting your facts with those numbers isn’t it?CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:
Yes, he’s become a millionaire just a few years ago while in his mid-seventies. Somewhere between 2-2.5 million, 1.75 of which is from book sales, not from taking money of special interests.mickeyrat said:
and hes become a millionaire from being there and writing books that wouldnt if he werent a sitting Senator.EarlWelsh said:
Ideologically, yes, and by his refusal to be bought by special interests (the aforementioned corruption in Washington) he’s an outsider to a system that DOES NOT stand for or work for the working, middle-class of this country.mickeyrat said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Why is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.wait. you link an article whos title says in 29 years Sanders......then YOU claim he is an outsider to Washington?Agribusiness $930,479 Communications/Electronics $6,828,573 Construction $1,410,372 Defense $409,027 Energy & Natural Resources $468,791 Finance, Insurance & Real Estate $2,785,151 Health $4,771,353 Lawyers & Lobbyists $1,549,019 Transportation $1,354,239
stop lying
Does an employer that happens to work in defense and donate to Bernie because they support the agenda somehow represent defense industry special interests?
stated another way:
I work in insurance. So I give to the candidate that is going to protect the insurance industry.
My employer is in the insurance industry. So they give to the candidate that is going to protect their employees.
so what does 'special interest' really mean?
is it just another buzz word that Bernie uses to shift blame from his own failures?
So when someone donates to Bernie, it's for the overall betterment of society.
But when someone donates to Biden, it's representing special interests.
Well that's a convenient of looking at things.0 -
You don't have to be for or against Sanders to see that he has been morally, ethically, and positionally consistent for decades in ways Biden hasn't. When looking at their histories, Sanders has been an ideologue first, and Biden a politician first. If they can converge and define a messaging strategy that unifies these two branches, maybe they can define this as a partnership.CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:
Or someone works in any given field and gives to Bernie because they care about the overall betterment of society, regardless of how it benefits the particular sector they work in.CM189191 said:static111 said:
I believe this is the total number of all the individual donations based on donor occupation. Does a worker that happens to work in defense and donate to Bernie because he supports the agenda somehow represent defense industry special interests. Kind of distorting your facts with those numbers isn’t it?CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:
Yes, he’s become a millionaire just a few years ago while in his mid-seventies. Somewhere between 2-2.5 million, 1.75 of which is from book sales, not from taking money of special interests.mickeyrat said:
and hes become a millionaire from being there and writing books that wouldnt if he werent a sitting Senator.EarlWelsh said:
Ideologically, yes, and by his refusal to be bought by special interests (the aforementioned corruption in Washington) he’s an outsider to a system that DOES NOT stand for or work for the working, middle-class of this country.mickeyrat said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Why is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.wait. you link an article whos title says in 29 years Sanders......then YOU claim he is an outsider to Washington?Agribusiness $930,479 Communications/Electronics $6,828,573 Construction $1,410,372 Defense $409,027 Energy & Natural Resources $468,791 Finance, Insurance & Real Estate $2,785,151 Health $4,771,353 Lawyers & Lobbyists $1,549,019 Transportation $1,354,239
stop lying
Does an employer that happens to work in defense and donate to Bernie because they support the agenda somehow represent defense industry special interests?
stated another way:
I work in insurance. So I give to the candidate that is going to protect the insurance industry.
My employer is in the insurance industry. So they give to the candidate that is going to protect their employees.
so what does 'special interest' really mean?
is it just another buzz word that Bernie uses to shift blame from his own failures?
So when someone donates to Bernie, it's for the overall betterment of society.
But when someone donates to Biden, it's representing special interests.
Well that's a convenient of looking at things.
Edit: I also think if there were ever a time that the USA might change its relationship with M4A, it would be right now in the middle of a pandemic. I'm guessing that's not lost on Sanders.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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I agree. Hello fellow pod listener.benjs said:I think it's permission structures. It was theorized on Pod Save America, it's a technique used by the former Obama administration it varies from Sanders' usual debate approach, and it coincides with massive confidence around Biden: Sanders is trying to create a permission structure for his voters to feel comfortable with Biden before he drops out. If he doesn't handle it methodically, they won't swing when he leaves.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Which brings us right back to where we started. Bernie needs to drop out and never should have ran in the first place. He's a useless, ineffective politician.benjs said:
You don't have to be for or against Sanders to see that he has been morally, ethically, and positionally consistent for decades in ways Biden hasn't. When looking at their histories, Sanders has been an ideologue first, and Biden a politician first. If they can converge and define a messaging strategy that unifies these two branches, maybe they can define this as a partnership.CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:
Or someone works in any given field and gives to Bernie because they care about the overall betterment of society, regardless of how it benefits the particular sector they work in.CM189191 said:static111 said:
I believe this is the total number of all the individual donations based on donor occupation. Does a worker that happens to work in defense and donate to Bernie because he supports the agenda somehow represent defense industry special interests. Kind of distorting your facts with those numbers isn’t it?CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:
Yes, he’s become a millionaire just a few years ago while in his mid-seventies. Somewhere between 2-2.5 million, 1.75 of which is from book sales, not from taking money of special interests.mickeyrat said:
and hes become a millionaire from being there and writing books that wouldnt if he werent a sitting Senator.EarlWelsh said:
Ideologically, yes, and by his refusal to be bought by special interests (the aforementioned corruption in Washington) he’s an outsider to a system that DOES NOT stand for or work for the working, middle-class of this country.mickeyrat said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Why is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.wait. you link an article whos title says in 29 years Sanders......then YOU claim he is an outsider to Washington?Agribusiness $930,479 Communications/Electronics $6,828,573 Construction $1,410,372 Defense $409,027 Energy & Natural Resources $468,791 Finance, Insurance & Real Estate $2,785,151 Health $4,771,353 Lawyers & Lobbyists $1,549,019 Transportation $1,354,239
stop lying
Does an employer that happens to work in defense and donate to Bernie because they support the agenda somehow represent defense industry special interests?
stated another way:
I work in insurance. So I give to the candidate that is going to protect the insurance industry.
My employer is in the insurance industry. So they give to the candidate that is going to protect their employees.
so what does 'special interest' really mean?
is it just another buzz word that Bernie uses to shift blame from his own failures?
So when someone donates to Bernie, it's for the overall betterment of society.
But when someone donates to Biden, it's representing special interests.
Well that's a convenient of looking at things.
Edit: I also think if there were ever a time that the USA might change its relationship with M4A, it would be right now in the middle of a pandemic. I'm guessing that's not lost on Sanders.
The inability to be flexible over the course of time is not an asset. The inability to change your position as the world around you changes is not an asset. The inability to cope with reality is not an asset.
If Bernie wants to be an ideologue, go teach at university somewhere. Quit wasting everyone's time with promises you can't keep.
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But his platform aligns perfectly with the changes that the world has made and needs to make. Don’t you see that? The old way does not work anymore. Biden represents the old way that got us Trump in the first place.CM189191 said:
Which brings us right back to where we started. Bernie needs to drop out and never should have ran in the first place. He's a useless, ineffective politician.benjs said:
You don't have to be for or against Sanders to see that he has been morally, ethically, and positionally consistent for decades in ways Biden hasn't. When looking at their histories, Sanders has been an ideologue first, and Biden a politician first. If they can converge and define a messaging strategy that unifies these two branches, maybe they can define this as a partnership.CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:
Or someone works in any given field and gives to Bernie because they care about the overall betterment of society, regardless of how it benefits the particular sector they work in.CM189191 said:static111 said:
I believe this is the total number of all the individual donations based on donor occupation. Does a worker that happens to work in defense and donate to Bernie because he supports the agenda somehow represent defense industry special interests. Kind of distorting your facts with those numbers isn’t it?CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:
Yes, he’s become a millionaire just a few years ago while in his mid-seventies. Somewhere between 2-2.5 million, 1.75 of which is from book sales, not from taking money of special interests.mickeyrat said:
and hes become a millionaire from being there and writing books that wouldnt if he werent a sitting Senator.EarlWelsh said:
Ideologically, yes, and by his refusal to be bought by special interests (the aforementioned corruption in Washington) he’s an outsider to a system that DOES NOT stand for or work for the working, middle-class of this country.mickeyrat said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Why is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.wait. you link an article whos title says in 29 years Sanders......then YOU claim he is an outsider to Washington?Agribusiness $930,479 Communications/Electronics $6,828,573 Construction $1,410,372 Defense $409,027 Energy & Natural Resources $468,791 Finance, Insurance & Real Estate $2,785,151 Health $4,771,353 Lawyers & Lobbyists $1,549,019 Transportation $1,354,239
stop lying
Does an employer that happens to work in defense and donate to Bernie because they support the agenda somehow represent defense industry special interests?
stated another way:
I work in insurance. So I give to the candidate that is going to protect the insurance industry.
My employer is in the insurance industry. So they give to the candidate that is going to protect their employees.
so what does 'special interest' really mean?
is it just another buzz word that Bernie uses to shift blame from his own failures?
So when someone donates to Bernie, it's for the overall betterment of society.
But when someone donates to Biden, it's representing special interests.
Well that's a convenient of looking at things.
Edit: I also think if there were ever a time that the USA might change its relationship with M4A, it would be right now in the middle of a pandemic. I'm guessing that's not lost on Sanders.
The inability to be flexible over the course of time is not an asset. The inability to change your position as the world around you changes is not an asset. The inability to cope with reality is not an asset.
If Bernie wants to be an ideologue, go teach at university somewhere. Quit wasting everyone's time with promises you can't keep.0 -
EarlWelsh said:
But his platform aligns perfectly with the changes that the world has made and needs to make. Don’t you see that? The old way does not work anymore. Biden represents the old way that got us Trump in the first place.CM189191 said:
Which brings us right back to where we started. Bernie needs to drop out and never should have ran in the first place. He's a useless, ineffective politician.benjs said:
You don't have to be for or against Sanders to see that he has been morally, ethically, and positionally consistent for decades in ways Biden hasn't. When looking at their histories, Sanders has been an ideologue first, and Biden a politician first. If they can converge and define a messaging strategy that unifies these two branches, maybe they can define this as a partnership.CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:
Or someone works in any given field and gives to Bernie because they care about the overall betterment of society, regardless of how it benefits the particular sector they work in.CM189191 said:static111 said:
I believe this is the total number of all the individual donations based on donor occupation. Does a worker that happens to work in defense and donate to Bernie because he supports the agenda somehow represent defense industry special interests. Kind of distorting your facts with those numbers isn’t it?CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:
Yes, he’s become a millionaire just a few years ago while in his mid-seventies. Somewhere between 2-2.5 million, 1.75 of which is from book sales, not from taking money of special interests.mickeyrat said:
and hes become a millionaire from being there and writing books that wouldnt if he werent a sitting Senator.EarlWelsh said:
Ideologically, yes, and by his refusal to be bought by special interests (the aforementioned corruption in Washington) he’s an outsider to a system that DOES NOT stand for or work for the working, middle-class of this country.mickeyrat said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Why is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.wait. you link an article whos title says in 29 years Sanders......then YOU claim he is an outsider to Washington?Agribusiness $930,479 Communications/Electronics $6,828,573 Construction $1,410,372 Defense $409,027 Energy & Natural Resources $468,791 Finance, Insurance & Real Estate $2,785,151 Health $4,771,353 Lawyers & Lobbyists $1,549,019 Transportation $1,354,239
stop lying
Does an employer that happens to work in defense and donate to Bernie because they support the agenda somehow represent defense industry special interests?
stated another way:
I work in insurance. So I give to the candidate that is going to protect the insurance industry.
My employer is in the insurance industry. So they give to the candidate that is going to protect their employees.
so what does 'special interest' really mean?
is it just another buzz word that Bernie uses to shift blame from his own failures?
So when someone donates to Bernie, it's for the overall betterment of society.
But when someone donates to Biden, it's representing special interests.
Well that's a convenient of looking at things.
Edit: I also think if there were ever a time that the USA might change its relationship with M4A, it would be right now in the middle of a pandemic. I'm guessing that's not lost on Sanders.
The inability to be flexible over the course of time is not an asset. The inability to change your position as the world around you changes is not an asset. The inability to cope with reality is not an asset.
If Bernie wants to be an ideologue, go teach at university somewhere. Quit wasting everyone's time with promises you can't keep.
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Nice horseshoes
Were you not paying attention during debates?
Everytime Bernie brought up a litany of complaints, Biden responded with "yes I agree with you, furthermore here are the exact steps I've taken, and what I plan to do going forward"
Meanwhile Bernie is doing his best veruca salt impression ' but I want it noooooow'
Best thing Bernie can do to effectuate change right now with this instant is drop out of the race and back Biden. That's it. Full stop.0 -
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CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:
But his platform aligns perfectly with the changes that the world has made and needs to make. Don’t you see that? The old way does not work anymore. Biden represents the old way that got us Trump in the first place.CM189191 said:
Which brings us right back to where we started. Bernie needs to drop out and never should have ran in the first place. He's a useless, ineffective politician.benjs said:
You don't have to be for or against Sanders to see that he has been morally, ethically, and positionally consistent for decades in ways Biden hasn't. When looking at their histories, Sanders has been an ideologue first, and Biden a politician first. If they can converge and define a messaging strategy that unifies these two branches, maybe they can define this as a partnership.CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:
Or someone works in any given field and gives to Bernie because they care about the overall betterment of society, regardless of how it benefits the particular sector they work in.CM189191 said:static111 said:
I believe this is the total number of all the individual donations based on donor occupation. Does a worker that happens to work in defense and donate to Bernie because he supports the agenda somehow represent defense industry special interests. Kind of distorting your facts with those numbers isn’t it?CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:
Yes, he’s become a millionaire just a few years ago while in his mid-seventies. Somewhere between 2-2.5 million, 1.75 of which is from book sales, not from taking money of special interests.mickeyrat said:
and hes become a millionaire from being there and writing books that wouldnt if he werent a sitting Senator.EarlWelsh said:
Ideologically, yes, and by his refusal to be bought by special interests (the aforementioned corruption in Washington) he’s an outsider to a system that DOES NOT stand for or work for the working, middle-class of this country.mickeyrat said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Why is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.wait. you link an article whos title says in 29 years Sanders......then YOU claim he is an outsider to Washington?Agribusiness $930,479 Communications/Electronics $6,828,573 Construction $1,410,372 Defense $409,027 Energy & Natural Resources $468,791 Finance, Insurance & Real Estate $2,785,151 Health $4,771,353 Lawyers & Lobbyists $1,549,019 Transportation $1,354,239
stop lying
Does an employer that happens to work in defense and donate to Bernie because they support the agenda somehow represent defense industry special interests?
stated another way:
I work in insurance. So I give to the candidate that is going to protect the insurance industry.
My employer is in the insurance industry. So they give to the candidate that is going to protect their employees.
so what does 'special interest' really mean?
is it just another buzz word that Bernie uses to shift blame from his own failures?
So when someone donates to Bernie, it's for the overall betterment of society.
But when someone donates to Biden, it's representing special interests.
Well that's a convenient of looking at things.
Edit: I also think if there were ever a time that the USA might change its relationship with M4A, it would be right now in the middle of a pandemic. I'm guessing that's not lost on Sanders.
The inability to be flexible over the course of time is not an asset. The inability to change your position as the world around you changes is not an asset. The inability to cope with reality is not an asset.
If Bernie wants to be an ideologue, go teach at university somewhere. Quit wasting everyone's time with promises you can't keep.
clip clop
Nice horseshoes
Were you not paying attention during debates?
Everytime Bernie brought up a litany of complaints, Biden responded with "yes I agree with you, furthermore here are the exact steps I've taken, and what I plan to do going forward"
Meanwhile Bernie is doing his best veruca salt impression ' but I want it noooooow'
Best thing Bernie can do to effectuate change right now with this instant is drop out of the race and back Biden. That's it. Full stop.
Meanwhile Bernie is bragging about voting against anything that resembled progress, because it didn't go far enough. Completely counterproductive.0 -
benjs said:
You don't have to be for or against Sanders to see that he has been morally, ethically, and positionally consistent for decades in ways Biden hasn't. When looking at their histories, Sanders has been an ideologue first, and Biden a politician first. If they can converge and define a messaging strategy that unifies these two branches, maybe they can define this as a partnership.CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:
Or someone works in any given field and gives to Bernie because they care about the overall betterment of society, regardless of how it benefits the particular sector they work in.CM189191 said:static111 said:
I believe this is the total number of all the individual donations based on donor occupation. Does a worker that happens to work in defense and donate to Bernie because he supports the agenda somehow represent defense industry special interests. Kind of distorting your facts with those numbers isn’t it?CM189191 said:EarlWelsh said:
Yes, he’s become a millionaire just a few years ago while in his mid-seventies. Somewhere between 2-2.5 million, 1.75 of which is from book sales, not from taking money of special interests.mickeyrat said:
and hes become a millionaire from being there and writing books that wouldnt if he werent a sitting Senator.EarlWelsh said:
Ideologically, yes, and by his refusal to be bought by special interests (the aforementioned corruption in Washington) he’s an outsider to a system that DOES NOT stand for or work for the working, middle-class of this country.mickeyrat said:EarlWelsh said:CM189191 said:Why is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.wait. you link an article whos title says in 29 years Sanders......then YOU claim he is an outsider to Washington?Agribusiness $930,479 Communications/Electronics $6,828,573 Construction $1,410,372 Defense $409,027 Energy & Natural Resources $468,791 Finance, Insurance & Real Estate $2,785,151 Health $4,771,353 Lawyers & Lobbyists $1,549,019 Transportation $1,354,239
stop lying
Does an employer that happens to work in defense and donate to Bernie because they support the agenda somehow represent defense industry special interests?
stated another way:
I work in insurance. So I give to the candidate that is going to protect the insurance industry.
My employer is in the insurance industry. So they give to the candidate that is going to protect their employees.
so what does 'special interest' really mean?
is it just another buzz word that Bernie uses to shift blame from his own failures?
So when someone donates to Bernie, it's for the overall betterment of society.
But when someone donates to Biden, it's representing special interests.
Well that's a convenient of looking at things.
Edit: I also think if there were ever a time that the USA might change its relationship with M4A, it would be right now in the middle of a pandemic. I'm guessing that's not lost on Sanders.
and to capitalize on it makes him a politician........
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Please don;t be fooled. Those voting for Bernie are voting their pocketbooks.hippiemom = goodness0
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same can be said for those voting for Biden too ....cincybearcat said:Please don;t be fooled. Those voting for Bernie are voting their pocketbooks.
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Same can be said for any vote in the history of votes! Only kinda kidding. It's not literally ever vote...but to get elected at a national level, people are voting their pocketbooks for you.mickeyrat said:
same can be said for those voting for Biden too ....cincybearcat said:Please don;t be fooled. Those voting for Bernie are voting their pocketbooks.
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Beating Trump in the fallIt's all the rage to hate on Bernie when times are good, but crisis comes and Republicans take steps that even Democrats would deride under Sanders and all you here is crickets...Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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Shh don’t make them think. Next thing you know you’ll have all the anti Bernie gremlins out in full force.rgambs said:It's all the rage to hate on Bernie when times are good, but crisis comes and Republicans take steps that even Democrats would deride under Sanders and all you here is crickets...
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Beating Trump in the fallFuck I just want 2020 to be over I’ve already had enough of it!jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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Did Bernie drop out yet?
Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.0 -
Yep. Right there with you.josevolution said:Fuck I just want 2020 to be over I’ve already had enough of it!
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Beating Trump in the fall
Funny it will be my 60th birth yr and I already want it to go away , be safe I hope we get to see the band this yr 🤘JimmyV said:
Yep. Right there with you.josevolution said:Fuck I just want 2020 to be over I’ve already had enough of it!jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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