More Important: Beating Trump or Stopping Bernie?

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  • Beating Trump in the fall
    bernie is already beaten. 

    all i know is he needs to endorse biden right away and get his bernie bot supporters on the biden train or else trump is going to win.

    i love bernie,but if he does not do the right thing and trump wins again, bernie could go get fucked.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    This cannabilistic conversation is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out ASAP and should have never ran.

    He's a useless ineffective politician 
  • Beating Trump in the fall
    CM189191 said:
    This cannabilistic conversation is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out ASAP and should have never ran.

    He's a useless ineffective politician 
    i actually voted for bernie in the MO primary. He got his ass kicked.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,144
    CM189191 said:
    This cannabilistic conversation is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out ASAP and should have never ran.

    He's a useless ineffective politician 
    Since going back in time isn't an option, where things stand today, Sanders may as well be considered the spiritual leader of the left-wing cohort of the Democratic party. If he stays in the race for a little longer (say, a debate longer), maybe he can convince some of his voting base to pivot to Biden who otherwise would've spoiled their ballots. Or, maybe behind closed doors, Biden and Sanders are discussing what Sanders would like him to include in his policies moving forward, in exchange for an authentic endorsement. I know these are entirely unprovable theories, but Sanders is unlikely to have more leverage in his career than he does just today in terms of influencing Biden's policies. I can't imagine he'd want to waste that.
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  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    Beating Trump in the fall
    Buckle up!

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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,636
    EarlWelsh said:
    mickeyrat said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    mickeyrat said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    rgambs said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    Stopping Bernie is for clowns. He’d pound Donny’s cirrhotic dick into the dirt in a debate, whereas Biden’s eye might pop out or he’ll talk some nonsense and get really angry. If Joe is the nominee, I’m afraid to say he’d lose. Everything.
    Bernie would pound Donny in a debate, but debates don't really mean much.  Hillary pounded Donny and she lost.  Independents don't care for Sanders, African Americans are ambivalent about him, and conservatives can't stand him, the election turnout demos would be bad, bad, bad for Democrats.
    I respectfully disagree. I think a wider range of electorates do like Sanders, and that number would grow once people actually heard him out. I don’t believe most people who don’t like him have ever really heard what he has to say. They hear/see the word socialism and it turns them right off.
    so where are they at?  why arent they showing up in force to make him the nominee?
    and has he said just how he WILL  get his platform passed? not to mention fully funded....

    I think there are loads of independents and even plenty of conservatives who haven’t been able to vote in primaries that would come out for him. When people really listen to him they learn how much he actually stands for working families.

    As for his policies, no, he hasn’t said how he can get it passed BUT he actually has a platform, and that’s more than Biden can say. 
    the following is a screenshot of a list of open primary states.

    Again, where are these people at?I would have pasted the link this was pulled from but this website has a big fucking problem with c/p in mulit quoted posts via mobile browser or firefox specifically. will link after.
    Well, I believe Sanders won the Independent vote in 13 of those states but I could be wrong. Obviously they didn’t represent a large enough portion of the turnout. Those votes are super important in the general and Sanders has them.

    I’d strongly caution against believing independents will be the difference for Bernie.

    a lot of independent voters are libertarian which is just a fancy word for small government conservative.
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    benjs said:
    CM189191 said:
    This cannabilistic conversation is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out ASAP and should have never ran.

    He's a useless ineffective politician 
    Since going back in time isn't an option, where things stand today, Sanders may as well be considered the spiritual leader of the left-wing cohort of the Democratic party. If he stays in the race for a little longer (say, a debate longer), maybe he can convince some of his voting base to pivot to Biden who otherwise would've spoiled their ballots. Or, maybe behind closed doors, Biden and Sanders are discussing what Sanders would like him to include in his policies moving forward, in exchange for an authentic endorsement. I know these are entirely unprovable theories, but Sanders is unlikely to have more leverage in his career than he does just today in terms of influencing Biden's policies. I can't imagine he'd want to waste that.
    So the Sarah Palin of the left? 
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Beating Trump in the fall
    EarlWelsh said:
    mickeyrat said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    mickeyrat said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    rgambs said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    Stopping Bernie is for clowns. He’d pound Donny’s cirrhotic dick into the dirt in a debate, whereas Biden’s eye might pop out or he’ll talk some nonsense and get really angry. If Joe is the nominee, I’m afraid to say he’d lose. Everything.
    Bernie would pound Donny in a debate, but debates don't really mean much.  Hillary pounded Donny and she lost.  Independents don't care for Sanders, African Americans are ambivalent about him, and conservatives can't stand him, the election turnout demos would be bad, bad, bad for Democrats.
    I respectfully disagree. I think a wider range of electorates do like Sanders, and that number would grow once people actually heard him out. I don’t believe most people who don’t like him have ever really heard what he has to say. They hear/see the word socialism and it turns them right off.
    so where are they at?  why arent they showing up in force to make him the nominee?
    and has he said just how he WILL  get his platform passed? not to mention fully funded....

    I think there are loads of independents and even plenty of conservatives who haven’t been able to vote in primaries that would come out for him. When people really listen to him they learn how much he actually stands for working families.

    As for his policies, no, he hasn’t said how he can get it passed BUT he actually has a platform, and that’s more than Biden can say. 
    the following is a screenshot of a list of open primary states.

    Again, where are these people at?I would have pasted the link this was pulled from but this website has a big fucking problem with c/p in mulit quoted posts via mobile browser or firefox specifically. will link after.
    Well, I believe Sanders won the Independent vote in 13 of those states but I could be wrong. Obviously they didn’t represent a large enough portion of the turnout. Those votes are super important in the general and Sanders has them.

    I’d strongly caution against believing independents will be the difference for Bernie.

    a lot of independent voters are libertarian which is just a fancy word for small government conservative.
    Libertarian: someone afraid to admit that they are actually a republican
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    static111 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    mickeyrat said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    mickeyrat said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    rgambs said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    Stopping Bernie is for clowns. He’d pound Donny’s cirrhotic dick into the dirt in a debate, whereas Biden’s eye might pop out or he’ll talk some nonsense and get really angry. If Joe is the nominee, I’m afraid to say he’d lose. Everything.
    Bernie would pound Donny in a debate, but debates don't really mean much.  Hillary pounded Donny and she lost.  Independents don't care for Sanders, African Americans are ambivalent about him, and conservatives can't stand him, the election turnout demos would be bad, bad, bad for Democrats.
    I respectfully disagree. I think a wider range of electorates do like Sanders, and that number would grow once people actually heard him out. I don’t believe most people who don’t like him have ever really heard what he has to say. They hear/see the word socialism and it turns them right off.
    so where are they at?  why arent they showing up in force to make him the nominee?
    and has he said just how he WILL  get his platform passed? not to mention fully funded....

    I think there are loads of independents and even plenty of conservatives who haven’t been able to vote in primaries that would come out for him. When people really listen to him they learn how much he actually stands for working families.

    As for his policies, no, he hasn’t said how he can get it passed BUT he actually has a platform, and that’s more than Biden can say. 
    the following is a screenshot of a list of open primary states.

    Again, where are these people at?I would have pasted the link this was pulled from but this website has a big fucking problem with c/p in mulit quoted posts via mobile browser or firefox specifically. will link after.
    Well, I believe Sanders won the Independent vote in 13 of those states but I could be wrong. Obviously they didn’t represent a large enough portion of the turnout. Those votes are super important in the general and Sanders has them.

    I’d strongly caution against believing independents will be the difference for Bernie.

    a lot of independent voters are libertarian which is just a fancy word for small government conservative.
    Libertarian: someone afraid to admit that they are actually a republican
    You misspelled ashamed
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Beating Trump in the fall
    ^^^ Double Bingo!
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  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    Beating Trump in the fall
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    mickeyrat said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    mickeyrat said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    rgambs said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    Stopping Bernie is for clowns. He’d pound Donny’s cirrhotic dick into the dirt in a debate, whereas Biden’s eye might pop out or he’ll talk some nonsense and get really angry. If Joe is the nominee, I’m afraid to say he’d lose. Everything.
    Bernie would pound Donny in a debate, but debates don't really mean much.  Hillary pounded Donny and she lost.  Independents don't care for Sanders, African Americans are ambivalent about him, and conservatives can't stand him, the election turnout demos would be bad, bad, bad for Democrats.
    I respectfully disagree. I think a wider range of electorates do like Sanders, and that number would grow once people actually heard him out. I don’t believe most people who don’t like him have ever really heard what he has to say. They hear/see the word socialism and it turns them right off.
    so where are they at?  why arent they showing up in force to make him the nominee?
    and has he said just how he WILL  get his platform passed? not to mention fully funded....

    I think there are loads of independents and even plenty of conservatives who haven’t been able to vote in primaries that would come out for him. When people really listen to him they learn how much he actually stands for working families.

    As for his policies, no, he hasn’t said how he can get it passed BUT he actually has a platform, and that’s more than Biden can say. 
    the following is a screenshot of a list of open primary states.

    Again, where are these people at?I would have pasted the link this was pulled from but this website has a big fucking problem with c/p in mulit quoted posts via mobile browser or firefox specifically. will link after.
    Well, I believe Sanders won the Independent vote in 13 of those states but I could be wrong. Obviously they didn’t represent a large enough portion of the turnout. Those votes are super important in the general and Sanders has them.

    I’d strongly caution against believing independents will be the difference for Bernie.

    a lot of independent voters are libertarian which is just a fancy word for small government conservative.
    Libertarian: someone afraid to admit that they are actually a republican
    You misspelled ashamed
    +2
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
  • EarlWelshEarlWelsh Posts: 1,118
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?
  • Beating Trump in the fall
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?
    because we can't have a contested or split convention. we need to get behind the presumed nominee now and project strength going into the election.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • EarlWelshEarlWelsh Posts: 1,118
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?
    because we can't have a contested or split convention. we need to get behind the presumed nominee now and project strength going into the election.
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?
    because we can't have a contested or split convention. we need to get behind the presumed nominee now and project strength going into the election.
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?
    because we can't have a contested or split convention. we need to get behind the presumed nominee now and project strength going into the election.
    Still plenty of delegates up for grabs and Sanders even said that if Biden wins the plurality before the convention that he would drop out and endorse everyone’s favorite creepy uncle.
  • Beating Trump in the fall
    EarlWelsh said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?
    because we can't have a contested or split convention. we need to get behind the presumed nominee now and project strength going into the election.
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?
    because we can't have a contested or split convention. we need to get behind the presumed nominee now and project strength going into the election.
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?
    because we can't have a contested or split convention. we need to get behind the presumed nominee now and project strength going into the election.
    Still plenty of delegates up for grabs and Sanders even said that if Biden wins the plurality before the convention that he would drop out and endorse everyone’s favorite creepy uncle.
    will his supporters though? many of them did not vote for hillary last time.

    like i said, i voted for bernie in the primary. but if he has no clear route to the nomination he needs to step aside, unite the party, and help to defeat trump. 
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • EarlWelshEarlWelsh Posts: 1,118
    EarlWelsh said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?
    because we can't have a contested or split convention. we need to get behind the presumed nominee now and project strength going into the election.
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?
    because we can't have a contested or split convention. we need to get behind the presumed nominee now and project strength going into the election.
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?
    because we can't have a contested or split convention. we need to get behind the presumed nominee now and project strength going into the election.
    Still plenty of delegates up for grabs and Sanders even said that if Biden wins the plurality before the convention that he would drop out and endorse everyone’s favorite creepy uncle.
    will his supporters though? many of them did not vote for hillary last time.

    like i said, i voted for bernie in the primary. but if he has no clear route to the nomination he needs to step aside, unite the party, and help to defeat trump. 
    More Sanders supporters voted for Hillary, than Hillary supporters voted for Obama. Anyway, I hope they do come out and I hope those who think Biden is more electable come to their senses. Mentally unfit, sketchy record dating way back (Sanders has been consistent on all fronts), and worst of all, a return to the same old same old that helped lead to Trump in the first place.
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?


    Because he's a useless ineffective politician


  • EarlWelshEarlWelsh Posts: 1,118
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?


    Because he's a useless ineffective politician


    That’s ridiculous. 
  • EarlWelshEarlWelsh Posts: 1,118
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?


    Because he's a useless ineffective politician


    That’s ridiculous. 
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?


    Because he's a useless ineffective politician


    That’s ridiculous. 
    Citation needed
  • EarlWelshEarlWelsh Posts: 1,118
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?


    Because he's a useless ineffective politician


    That’s ridiculous. 
    Citation needed


    Why is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?


    Because he's a useless ineffective politician


    That’s ridiculous. 
    Citation needed


    Why is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.
    So he's useless, ineffective, stubborn, and blames the establishment for his own shortcomings....

    ....where have I seen that before??

    Basically he's tRUmp.  An angry old man shouting at the clouds.  No wonder the Russians are pushing Bernie too.

    Clip clop

    Nice horseshoes


  • EarlWelshEarlWelsh Posts: 1,118
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?


    Because he's a useless ineffective politician


    That’s ridiculous. 
    Citation needed


    Why is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.
    So he's useless, ineffective, stubborn, and blames the establishment for his own shortcomings....

    ....where have I seen that before??

    Basically he's tRUmp.  An angry old man shouting at the clouds.  No wonder the Russians are pushing Bernie too.

    Clip clop

    Nice horseshoes


    Right. No corruption to see here. Trump’s the disease, not a symptom. Got it. Good luck with your senile, creepy uncle Joe.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?


    Because he's a useless ineffective politician


    That’s ridiculous. 
    Citation needed


    Why is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.
    So he's useless, ineffective, stubborn, and blames the establishment for his own shortcomings....

    ....where have I seen that before??

    Basically he's tRUmp.  An angry old man shouting at the clouds.  No wonder the Russians are pushing Bernie too.

    Clip clop

    Nice horseshoes


    Right. No corruption to see here. Trump’s the disease, not a symptom. Got it. Good luck with your senile, creepy uncle Joe.
    What is all this corruption you refer to? All of the “Washington corruption?”
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Beating Trump in the fall
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?
    Because some people don’t believe in a differing view or allowing other popular voices to have their ideas heard.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,577
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?


    Because he's a useless ineffective politician


    That’s ridiculous. 
    Citation needed


    Why is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.
    wait. you link an article whos title says in 29 years Sanders......

    then YOU claim he is an outsider to Washington?
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    static111 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?
    Because some people don’t believe in a differing view or allowing other popular voices to have their ideas heard.
    Bernie's differing views have been heard and roundly rejected by the voters twice now.  He's not popular.  He's a loser. Loooooosssssseeeeeeerrrrrrrr
  • EarlWelshEarlWelsh Posts: 1,118
    mickeyrat said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?


    Because he's a useless ineffective politician


    That’s ridiculous. 
    Citation needed


    Why is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.
    wait. you link an article whos title says in 29 years Sanders......

    then YOU claim he is an outsider to Washington?
    Ideologically, yes, and by his refusal to be bought by special interests (the aforementioned corruption in Washington) he’s an outsider to a system that DOES NOT stand for or work for the working, middle-class of this country. 
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    EarlWelsh said:
    mickeyrat said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    CM189191 said:
    Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.
    Why?


    Because he's a useless ineffective politician


    That’s ridiculous. 
    Citation needed


    Why is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.
    wait. you link an article whos title says in 29 years Sanders......

    then YOU claim he is an outsider to Washington?
    Ideologically, yes, and by his refusal to be bought by special interests (the aforementioned corruption in Washington) he’s an outsider to a system that DOES NOT stand for or work for the working, middle-class of this country. 
    So who is funding Bernie's campaign then?
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