More Important: Beating Trump or Stopping Bernie?
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Beating Trump in the fall
+2CM189191 said:You misspelled ashamed"The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
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Did Bernie drop out yet? Bernie needs to drop out yesterday.0
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Beating Trump in the fall
because we can't have a contested or split convention. we need to get behind the presumed nominee now and project strength going into the election.EarlWelsh said:Why?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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gimmesometruth27 said:because we can't have a contested or split convention. we need to get behind the presumed nominee now and project strength going into the election.gimmesometruth27 said:because we can't have a contested or split convention. we need to get behind the presumed nominee now and project strength going into the election.
Still plenty of delegates up for grabs and Sanders even said that if Biden wins the plurality before the convention that he would drop out and endorse everyone’s favorite creepy uncle.gimmesometruth27 said:because we can't have a contested or split convention. we need to get behind the presumed nominee now and project strength going into the election.0 -
Beating Trump in the fall
will his supporters though? many of them did not vote for hillary last time.EarlWelsh said:Still plenty of delegates up for grabs and Sanders even said that if Biden wins the plurality before the convention that he would drop out and endorse everyone’s favorite creepy uncle.
like i said, i voted for bernie in the primary. but if he has no clear route to the nomination he needs to step aside, unite the party, and help to defeat trump."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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More Sanders supporters voted for Hillary, than Hillary supporters voted for Obama. Anyway, I hope they do come out and I hope those who think Biden is more electable come to their senses. Mentally unfit, sketchy record dating way back (Sanders has been consistent on all fronts), and worst of all, a return to the same old same old that helped lead to Trump in the first place.gimmesometruth27 said:will his supporters though? many of them did not vote for hillary last time.
like i said, i voted for bernie in the primary. but if he has no clear route to the nomination he needs to step aside, unite the party, and help to defeat trump.0 -
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That’s ridiculous.CM189191 said:0 -
That’s ridiculous.CM189191 said:0 -
Citation neededEarlWelsh said:That’s ridiculous.0 -
CM189191 said:Citation neededWhy is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.0
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So he's useless, ineffective, stubborn, and blames the establishment for his own shortcomings....EarlWelsh said:Why is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.
....where have I seen that before??
Basically he's tRUmp. An angry old man shouting at the clouds. No wonder the Russians are pushing Bernie too.
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Right. No corruption to see here. Trump’s the disease, not a symptom. Got it. Good luck with your senile, creepy uncle Joe.CM189191 said:So he's useless, ineffective, stubborn, and blames the establishment for his own shortcomings....
....where have I seen that before??
Basically he's tRUmp. An angry old man shouting at the clouds. No wonder the Russians are pushing Bernie too.
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What is all this corruption you refer to? All of the “Washington corruption?”EarlWelsh said:Right. No corruption to see here. Trump’s the disease, not a symptom. Got it. Good luck with your senile, creepy uncle Joe.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Beating Trump in the fall
Because some people don’t believe in a differing view or allowing other popular voices to have their ideas heard.EarlWelsh said:Why?Scio me nihil scire
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EarlWelsh said:Why is he ineffective? I understand your angle, assuming that it is “he’s only passed 3 pieces of legislation in his career” but his effectiveness reaches far beyond that. His stubbornness, in my eyes, is to be commended. Is his “ineffectiveness” a product of itself or is it a product of a broken, corrupt system. Depends on how you view it and what you want out of government. More of the same? Or something that truly works for all people?. Being an outsider in Washington only strengthens why he’s needed inside the White House. We need change, desperately, and Biden just isn’t it. If Biden wins, which I really don’t think he can, expect something worse than Trump to follow.wait. you link an article whos title says in 29 years Sanders......then YOU claim he is an outsider to Washington?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Bernie's differing views have been heard and roundly rejected by the voters twice now. He's not popular. He's a loser. Loooooosssssseeeeeeerrrrrrrrstatic111 said:Because some people don’t believe in a differing view or allowing other popular voices to have their ideas heard.0 -
Ideologically, yes, and by his refusal to be bought by special interests (the aforementioned corruption in Washington) he’s an outsider to a system that DOES NOT stand for or work for the working, middle-class of this country.mickeyrat said:wait. you link an article whos title says in 29 years Sanders......then YOU claim he is an outsider to Washington?0 -
So who is funding Bernie's campaign then?EarlWelsh said:Ideologically, yes, and by his refusal to be bought by special interests (the aforementioned corruption in Washington) he’s an outsider to a system that DOES NOT stand for or work for the working, middle-class of this country.0
I would have pasted the link this was pulled from but this website has a big fucking problem with c/p in mulit quoted posts via mobile browser or firefox specifically. will link after.
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