Spring Tour Postponed - Letter from the Band

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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 1,285
    JB16057 said:
    "Having no examples of our national health department’s ability to get ahead of this....."

    Has any nation been able to get ahead of this?
    "Get ahead of" is maybe not the right phrase.  China actually took pretty drastic measures that seem to have succeeded in stopping the spread of the virus inside that country, but those would be much harder to impose in the U.S.  Americans have more freedoms and are less compliant.
  • ComeToTXComeToTX AustinPosts: 6,210
    Yep. They built hospitals just for this. Do people really think countries would go to these lengths for the common flu?
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 135
    What steps do you think the United States should take so we are up to par with South Korea and Japan? Should the United States shut down schools and large gatherings by force?
  • ComeToTXComeToTX AustinPosts: 6,210
    Large gatherings should be canceled. Schools should be canceled where community spread is taking place. None of it matters if we don’t have enough tests though. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • ComeToTXComeToTX AustinPosts: 6,210
    Zac Brown just postponed his tour as well. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • MC185899MC185899 Posts: 76
    edited March 10
    nicknyr15 said:
    myoung321 said:
    MC185899 said:
    JB16057 said:
    "Having no examples of our national health department’s ability to get ahead of this....."

    Has any nation been able to get ahead of this?
    Of course not.   But let’s blame our government anyway. 
     

    You all are! Both sides. Holy shit. Enough. There’s countless other threads for this. 
    With all due respect, what more do you expect to see in this thread?  The tour is postponed.  There are no make-up dates announced.  There isn’t anything else to say.  They may as well close the thread. 
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 3,718
    MC185899 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    myoung321 said:
    MC185899 said:
    JB16057 said:
    "Having no examples of our national health department’s ability to get ahead of this....."

    Has any nation been able to get ahead of this?
    Of course not.   But let’s blame our government anyway. 
     

    You all are! Both sides. Holy shit. Enough. There’s countless other threads for this. 
    With all due respect, what more do you expect to see in this thread?  The tour is postponed.  There are no make-up dates announced.  There isn’t anything else to say.  They may as well close the thread. 
    Anything but the political back and forth. It’s in every thread.
  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,942
    So when they reschedule the tour are they going to redistribute the fan club seats?I am just thinking there is going to be a bunch of people ask for refunds. If a person with like a 4 digit membership number gets a refund will anyone be able to buy their ticket or do the seats all get moved around.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 3,955

    If you’re tired of talking politics, you may want to stay off the internet for the next 8 months or more, because it isn’t going to get better. 

  • Cheo RamirezCheo Ramirez Posts: 675
    So sad, travelling from Lima Peru, my air ticket has big penalties. Hope the new date will be announce quickly.
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  • Nconte30Nconte30 Posts: 4
    Update to my previous post. Hotels.com refunded my hotel even though it said non refundable, so anyone losing money on travel, contact your hotel or airline. You should get it back!
  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,504
    So when they reschedule the tour are they going to redistribute the fan club seats?I am just thinking there is going to be a bunch of people ask for refunds. If a person with like a 4 digit membership number gets a refund will anyone be able to buy their ticket or do the seats all get moved around.
    The shows are postponed.. Keep the ticket and wait for new dates. OR.... get a refund. Your choice... Unless they cancel, refunded tickets will more than likely go to public sell or fan to fan sell when new date is announced.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 18,750
    San Jose has banned NHL games and large gatherings ... other mayors will do the same ... any responsible manager would be seriously considering canceling a tour that would be starting at a most inopportune time and most likely facing disruptions outside of their control.
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 6,937
    Jason P said:
    San Jose has banned NHL games and large gatherings ... other mayors will do the same ... any responsible manager would be seriously considering canceling a tour that would be starting at a most inopportune time and most likely facing disruptions outside of their control.
    Get out of here with you logical thinking! This is a conspiracy by the left to damage the economy and make the current Admin look incompetent before the election.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • coco buttercoco butter Posts: 1,344
    Sea said:
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  • dkast85dkast85 NYC areaPosts: 99
    I'm just as bummed/pissed as anyone, but it's a really weak move to blame the government for their decisions.  Just man up and own the calls you made.  It just adds more dissent and anger to an already crappy situation.  
    Haha it's PJ, you knew they would take a shot at a GOP run government. Now, I wonder if they would take a shot at China, now that would be brave.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 6,937
    Looks like they poached a comment from here based on their "swipe" comment.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/pearl-jam-apologizes-for-postponing-tour-lashes-out-at-trump-administration
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,504
    tbergs said:
    Looks like they poached a comment from here based on their "swipe" comment.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/pearl-jam-apologizes-for-postponing-tour-lashes-out-at-trump-administration
    I feel dirty watching that for 10 seconds.... arg....
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  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,504
    edited March 11
    dkast85 said:
    I'm just as bummed/pissed as anyone, but it's a really weak move to blame the government for their decisions.  Just man up and own the calls you made.  It just adds more dissent and anger to an already crappy situation.  
    Haha it's PJ, you knew they would take a shot at a GOP run government. Now, I wonder if they would take a shot at China, now that would be brave.
    The members of PJ are Americans, not Chinese.  The shows postponed were in American and Canadian cities, not China.

    Pearl Jam has never played in China...  They did play Taiwan in 1995. If you know anything about history. Then you would understand why that is a shot at China. 

    BTW... The GOP does not run the Govt. Last time I looked Dems were the majority in Congress and the GOP is not mentioned in letter. 

    Have a nice day!
    Post edited by myoung321 on
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 6,937
    Anybody been reading the reviews for the new album? Not going to be received well by some on here who don't like political music lyrics. That dang Ed though, forcing the band to follow his beliefs. Poor bastards.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,124
    I hope it pisses off all the trump clown posse
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 4,728
    edited March 11
    The Democrats are not the majority in Congress. They have the House not the Senate. It’s basically a split legislative branch (while the GOP controls the executive branch). In all, GOP controls the government, but can’t accomplish much outside of executive order or only Senate confirmation because the Dems have the house. 

    To be clear, the Admin has not been very proactive dealing with this outbreak. Whether to think it’s a threat or not, doesn’t matter. The country does not have tests to test people and us more of a reactionary plan to deal with the outbreak rather that proactive plan. 



    But sure, a musician’s letter to his fans, while living inside frustrated community that’s been devastated by the outbreak is the real outrage here. 
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  • traberatrabera Posts: 99
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  • traberatrabera Posts: 99
    MC185899 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Not surprising but quite telling that so many attacking this decision are coming at it from the "HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT ABOUT OUR GOVERNMENT! YOU MUST WATCH CNN!" angle. It's a default position for too many nowadays. Absolute blindness that they too are guilty of making this a political issue.
    No Jimmy.  The Band(er...Eddie) made this a political issue.  And for no reason.  This administration stopped travel with China months ago when they were roundly mocked for it. This probably saved many lives in the process.  There is no playbook for an outbreak like this.   I think our government has done pretty well considering all the variables involved.   

    Jesus, someone isn't paying attention. Trump has botched this from the start. 
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  • traberatrabera Posts: 99
    jeffbr said:
    That's complete nonsense. From the fragmented messages, to the contradictory messages, to bad advice (go to work when you're sick), to getting rid of experts who deal with epidemics and pandemics, to our unwillingness to receive help and test kits early on from WHO and Germany, to the lies about the availability of tests, to focus on the markets and not on health, to flying to golf courses in the middle of this thing, to contact with people who have had known contact with confirmed COVID-19 cases and not showing concern. All of these things highlight a man who is not providing adequate leadership, setting a proper example, or conveying critical information in a consistent way. You are allowed to like that guy, but to claim that he's been providing leadership is unbelievable and ignorant. 

    Yet there are some who are so blind or ignorant to see all this and it may take ANOTHER 4 YEARS for people to realize what a joke he is.


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  • MC185899MC185899 Posts: 76
    myoung321 said:
    dkast85 said:
    I'm just as bummed/pissed as anyone, but it's a really weak move to blame the government for their decisions.  Just man up and own the calls you made.  It just adds more dissent and anger to an already crappy situation.  
    Haha it's PJ, you knew they would take a shot at a GOP run government. Now, I wonder if they would take a shot at China, now that would be brave.
    The members of PJ are Americans, not Chinese.  The shows postponed were in American and Canadian cities, not China.

    Pearl Jam has never played in China...  They did play Taiwan in 1995. If you know anything about history. Then you would understand why that is a shot at China. 

    BTW... The GOP does not run the Govt. Last time I looked Dems were the majority in Congress and the GOP is not mentioned in letter. 

    Have a nice day!
    They postponed shows in Canada.  Why not take any shots at the government there?  Or is Trump to blame there, too?

    Pretty soon they will cancel shows in Italy, Germany, England, Sweden and more. I wonder if they will take shots at THOSE governments in the process?  I think we all know the answer, though. However, if he’s mad at the way the US handled this, I can only imagine what Eddie has to say about Italy! 
  • MC185899MC185899 Posts: 76
    tbergs said:
    Anybody been reading the reviews for the new album? Not going to be received well by some on here who don't like political music lyrics. That dang Ed though, forcing the band to follow his beliefs. Poor bastards.
    If it’s anything like Lightning Bolt, it’s probably pretty terrible.  
  • poisonpoison Posts: 31
    Trump and the Govt are in a no win situation let’s just face it. No matter what he says he’s going to get crushed for doing the wrong thing. Every doctor and medical website is saying the same thing our parents told us to do when we were kids. Wash your hands and cover your mouth when you cough or sneeze. This isn’t rocket science. Again if Govt got involved and made mandatory closing of schools/events all you liberals would say we should have our choice don’t tell us what to do. 

    All I’m saying is I’m sick of Ed’s politics. He’s wrong so many times and he’s never held accountable because he who he is. If he would have just said we are postponing the tour for the safety of our fans I would have been fine with that. But nope mister know it all Ed has to take a cheap shot at the Govt as well to make this a nice big political statement. Sad thing is that’s what democrats are all praying for now. If this virus spreads It will hurt the economy and then they can use that to demonize Trump. 







  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,504
    edited March 11
    poison said:
      
    All I’m saying is I’m sick of Ed’s politics. He’s wrong so many times and he’s never held accountable because he who he is. If he would have just said we are postponing the tour for the safety of our fans I would have been fine with that. But nope mister know it all Ed has to take a cheap shot at the Govt as well to make this a nice big political statement. Sad thing is that’s what democrats are all praying for now. If this virus spreads It will hurt the economy and then they can use that to demonize Trump. 
     The fact you ended your message with basically "Dems want this and it's all to make Trump look bad" says a lot ....

    Ed and the Bands politics, activism, and concern for fan safety are all well documented. They have not changed in now almost 30 years together as a band, maybe you have?
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  • poisonpoison Posts: 31
    Yep it does say a lot. It says the truth. 
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