The Democratic Presidential Debates

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

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Lerxst1992 said:

"Joe Biden told a factory worker 'you're full of sh--' during a tense argument over guns"

Go get em Joe. Make all the gop liars eat sh--!

He still has the fighting spirit, I'll give him that. But he still called it an AR-14 instead of an AR-15. I know, simple gaffe that doesn't hurt anyone. But lord, he makes a gaffe every few hours. 

Biden is a gaffe.  His dementia is showing.

Why would it be dementia?

To me it sounds like regular old-age senile and/or stress. Not dementia like my grandmother had.

Senile sounds about right.

Right on cue.

https://apple.news/AKBS48fM5TmKZw9Jq-JDKOA

I don’t think it’s just a party line. That man is losing it. He really is. It’s sad watching him try to talk sometimes. A day or two ago he said he wants to bring us back to the “Obiden/Bama” years. And we all misspeak like that from time to time. But it’s everyday (every few hours really) with Joe. I think it’s perfectly reasonable for the GOP or Fox News to harp on this. 

Losing it how? Like asking why we can’t nuke a hurricane? Or drawing his own map of a hurricane’s path and presenting it as fact? Or losing it like tossing paper towels to hurricane survivors? Or losing it by stating that Putin on the ritz told him Russia didn’t interfere in our elections so it must be true? Or losing it by watching a couple of prostitutes peeing on a bed?

Hahahaha, GREAT argument for Biden, dude. He hasn't lost it as much as Donald Trump. Talk about a low bar. 

You said he “was losing it.” I’m asking you to define “losing it.” There’s a scale of what apparently is acceptable to you and others around here so I want to know what is it specifically that Sleepy “Woke” Joe has said or done that illustrates for you that “he’s losing it.” He referred to an AR15 as an AR14? Oh my god lock him up but let’s give that nuking a hurricane a try? Never been done before and you don’t know until you try.


Comparing Biden to Team Trump Treason is a great argument for Biden to anyone living in reality. Talk about how far some have fallen.

Come on, man. Get Trump off your mind for the first time in years, and just judge Joe on his own. He can't even remember Obama's name! Watch....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRtWGRgR5Aw

Ummmmm, who’s the repub nominee likely to be in 2020? Given the choice I think it’s going to be, Sleepy “Woke” Joe is the better choice. Nor has he “lost it” like you’d like to claim but even if he does or did “lose it,” he’d be the better choice.

So you refuse to just judge Joe on his own as I asked. Typical. In a vaccum, independent of Trump and everything else, just look at the guy. It's sad to watch. ("SADDER THAN TEAM TRUMP TREASON WATCHING PUTIN ON THE RITZ PEE ON A HOOKER!?!?!") No, independent of Trump, just judging Joe being Joe, it's sad to watch. 

I mean, like you, I'll vote for him for president over Trump. Hey, if nothing else, he'll be another president that makes George W. Bush look not-so-dumb by comparison. 

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

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Halifax2TheMax said:

PJPOWER said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

"Joe Biden told a factory worker 'you're full of sh--' during a tense argument over guns"

Go get em Joe. Make all the gop liars eat sh--!

He still has the fighting spirit, I'll give him that. But he still called it an AR-14 instead of an AR-15. I know, simple gaffe that doesn't hurt anyone. But lord, he makes a gaffe every few hours. 

Biden is a gaffe.  His dementia is showing.

Why would it be dementia?

To me it sounds like regular old-age senile and/or stress. Not dementia like my grandmother had.

Senile sounds about right.

Right on cue.

https://apple.news/AKBS48fM5TmKZw9Jq-JDKOA

I don’t think it’s just a party line. That man is losing it. He really is. It’s sad watching him try to talk sometimes. A day or two ago he said he wants to bring us back to the “Obiden/Bama” years. And we all misspeak like that from time to time. But it’s everyday (every few hours really) with Joe. I think it’s perfectly reasonable for the GOP or Fox News to harp on this. 

Losing it how? Like asking why we can’t nuke a hurricane? Or drawing his own map of a hurricane’s path and presenting it as fact? Or losing it like tossing paper towels to hurricane survivors? Or losing it by stating that Putin on the ritz told him Russia didn’t interfere in our elections so it must be true? Or losing it by watching a couple of prostitutes peeing on a bed?

Hahahaha, GREAT argument for Biden, dude. He hasn't lost it as much as Donald Trump. Talk about a low bar. 

You said he “was losing it.” I’m asking you to define “losing it.” There’s a scale of what apparently is acceptable to you and others around here so I want to know what is it specifically that Sleepy “Woke” Joe has said or done that illustrates for you that “he’s losing it.” He referred to an AR15 as an AR14? Oh my god lock him up but let’s give that nuking a hurricane a try? Never been done before and you don’t know until you try.


Comparing Biden to Team Trump Treason is a great argument for Biden to anyone living in reality. Talk about how far some have fallen.

Come on, man. Get Trump off your mind for the first time in years, and just judge Joe on his own. He can't even remember Obama's name! Watch....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRtWGRgR5Aw

Ummmmm, who’s the repub nominee likely to be in 2020? Given the choice I think it’s going to be, Sleepy “Woke” Joe is the better choice. Nor has he “lost it” like you’d like to claim but even if he does or did “lose it,” he’d be the better choice.

So you refuse to just judge Joe on his own as I asked. Typical. In a vaccum, independent of Trump and everything else, just look at the guy. It's sad to watch. ("SADDER THAN TEAM TRUMP TREASON WATCHING PUTIN ON THE RITZ PEE ON A HOOKER!?!?!") No, independent of Trump, just judging Joe being Joe, it's sad to watch. 

I mean, like you, I'll vote for him for president over Trump. Hey, if nothing else, he'll be another president that makes George W. Bush look not-so-dumb by comparison. 

Who said I haven’t analyzed Sleepy “Woke” Joe independent of Team Trump Treason? Because I don’t believe your analysis that he’s “lost it?” Why can’t you define “lost it?” Is it speech/word jumbled or outlandish plans for the economy like free tuition or M4A that joe advocates for that make you think he’s “lost it?” What did he lose? Seemed to find a Super Tuesday, now didn’t he? Seems to be running a smart and efficient campaign, now isn’t he? Has policies much like Obama/Biden did re: energy, climate change, foreign & trade policy. Also, seems to know the qualifications required to hold senior positions in his administration. Yea, but he’s “lost it.” What is the “it?”

Cognitive ability

Halifax2TheMax said:

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PJPOWER said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

"Joe Biden told a factory worker 'you're full of sh--' during a tense argument over guns"

Go get em Joe. Make all the gop liars eat sh--!

He still has the fighting spirit, I'll give him that. But he still called it an AR-14 instead of an AR-15. I know, simple gaffe that doesn't hurt anyone. But lord, he makes a gaffe every few hours. 

Biden is a gaffe.  His dementia is showing.

Why would it be dementia?

To me it sounds like regular old-age senile and/or stress. Not dementia like my grandmother had.

Senile sounds about right.

Right on cue.

https://apple.news/AKBS48fM5TmKZw9Jq-JDKOA

I don’t think it’s just a party line. That man is losing it. He really is. It’s sad watching him try to talk sometimes. A day or two ago he said he wants to bring us back to the “Obiden/Bama” years. And we all misspeak like that from time to time. But it’s everyday (every few hours really) with Joe. I think it’s perfectly reasonable for the GOP or Fox News to harp on this. 

Losing it how? Like asking why we can’t nuke a hurricane? Or drawing his own map of a hurricane’s path and presenting it as fact? Or losing it like tossing paper towels to hurricane survivors? Or losing it by stating that Putin on the ritz told him Russia didn’t interfere in our elections so it must be true? Or losing it by watching a couple of prostitutes peeing on a bed?

Hahahaha, GREAT argument for Biden, dude. He hasn't lost it as much as Donald Trump. Talk about a low bar. 

You said he “was losing it.” I’m asking you to define “losing it.” There’s a scale of what apparently is acceptable to you and others around here so I want to know what is it specifically that Sleepy “Woke” Joe has said or done that illustrates for you that “he’s losing it.” He referred to an AR15 as an AR14? Oh my god lock him up but let’s give that nuking a hurricane a try? Never been done before and you don’t know until you try.


Comparing Biden to Team Trump Treason is a great argument for Biden to anyone living in reality. Talk about how far some have fallen.

Come on, man. Get Trump off your mind for the first time in years, and just judge Joe on his own. He can't even remember Obama's name! Watch....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRtWGRgR5Aw

Ummmmm, who’s the repub nominee likely to be in 2020? Given the choice I think it’s going to be, Sleepy “Woke” Joe is the better choice. Nor has he “lost it” like you’d like to claim but even if he does or did “lose it,” he’d be the better choice.

So you refuse to just judge Joe on his own as I asked. Typical. In a vaccum, independent of Trump and everything else, just look at the guy. It's sad to watch. ("SADDER THAN TEAM TRUMP TREASON WATCHING PUTIN ON THE RITZ PEE ON A HOOKER!?!?!") No, independent of Trump, just judging Joe being Joe, it's sad to watch. 

I mean, like you, I'll vote for him for president over Trump. Hey, if nothing else, he'll be another president that makes George W. Bush look not-so-dumb by comparison. 

Who said I haven’t analyzed Sleepy “Woke” Joe independent of Team Trump Treason? Because I don’t believe your analysis that he’s “lost it?” Why can’t you define “lost it?” Is it speech/word jumbled or outlandish plans for the economy like free tuition or M4A that joe advocates for that make you think he’s “lost it?” What did he lose? Seemed to find a Super Tuesday, now didn’t he? Seems to be running a smart and efficient campaign, now isn’t he? Has policies much like Obama/Biden did re: energy, climate change, foreign & trade policy. Also, seems to know the qualifications required to hold senior positions in his administration. Yea, but he’s “lost it.” What is the “it?”

Cognitive ability

Well, in my book he’s cognitively capable to be POTUS and will fix the train wreck that is the current administration. And I expect him to select a much younger VP and only serve four years. To be honest, he could sleep all four of those years and we’d still be better off than we have been for the past 3 1/2. Because there will be other capable and competent people serving the American people and not a despot.

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

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Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

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PJPOWER said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

"Joe Biden told a factory worker 'you're full of sh--' during a tense argument over guns"

Go get em Joe. Make all the gop liars eat sh--!

He still has the fighting spirit, I'll give him that. But he still called it an AR-14 instead of an AR-15. I know, simple gaffe that doesn't hurt anyone. But lord, he makes a gaffe every few hours. 

Biden is a gaffe.  His dementia is showing.

Why would it be dementia?

To me it sounds like regular old-age senile and/or stress. Not dementia like my grandmother had.

Senile sounds about right.

Right on cue.

https://apple.news/AKBS48fM5TmKZw9Jq-JDKOA

I don’t think it’s just a party line. That man is losing it. He really is. It’s sad watching him try to talk sometimes. A day or two ago he said he wants to bring us back to the “Obiden/Bama” years. And we all misspeak like that from time to time. But it’s everyday (every few hours really) with Joe. I think it’s perfectly reasonable for the GOP or Fox News to harp on this. 

Losing it how? Like asking why we can’t nuke a hurricane? Or drawing his own map of a hurricane’s path and presenting it as fact? Or losing it like tossing paper towels to hurricane survivors? Or losing it by stating that Putin on the ritz told him Russia didn’t interfere in our elections so it must be true? Or losing it by watching a couple of prostitutes peeing on a bed?

Hahahaha, GREAT argument for Biden, dude. He hasn't lost it as much as Donald Trump. Talk about a low bar. 

You said he “was losing it.” I’m asking you to define “losing it.” There’s a scale of what apparently is acceptable to you and others around here so I want to know what is it specifically that Sleepy “Woke” Joe has said or done that illustrates for you that “he’s losing it.” He referred to an AR15 as an AR14? Oh my god lock him up but let’s give that nuking a hurricane a try? Never been done before and you don’t know until you try.


Comparing Biden to Team Trump Treason is a great argument for Biden to anyone living in reality. Talk about how far some have fallen.

Come on, man. Get Trump off your mind for the first time in years, and just judge Joe on his own. He can't even remember Obama's name! Watch....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRtWGRgR5Aw

Ummmmm, who’s the repub nominee likely to be in 2020? Given the choice I think it’s going to be, Sleepy “Woke” Joe is the better choice. Nor has he “lost it” like you’d like to claim but even if he does or did “lose it,” he’d be the better choice.

So you refuse to just judge Joe on his own as I asked. Typical. In a vaccum, independent of Trump and everything else, just look at the guy. It's sad to watch. ("SADDER THAN TEAM TRUMP TREASON WATCHING PUTIN ON THE RITZ PEE ON A HOOKER!?!?!") No, independent of Trump, just judging Joe being Joe, it's sad to watch. 

I mean, like you, I'll vote for him for president over Trump. Hey, if nothing else, he'll be another president that makes George W. Bush look not-so-dumb by comparison. 

Why does he need to be judged on his own? That's a false premise since the election is just about down to a binary choice. The comparison to Trump is the only one top make. 

We weren't even talking about the election (though I understand the overall thread is about the election). Halifax suggested to call out Biden for going senile is a Fox News talking point. I responded that I think there's something to that claim that old-age might be getting the best of Biden. So I don't see a need for a comparison to Trump there. We all know he's a sociopath. 

Ledbetterman10 said:

pjl44 said:

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mrussel1 said:

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Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

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Halifax2TheMax said:

PJPOWER said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

"Joe Biden told a factory worker 'you're full of sh--' during a tense argument over guns"

Go get em Joe. Make all the gop liars eat sh--!

He still has the fighting spirit, I'll give him that. But he still called it an AR-14 instead of an AR-15. I know, simple gaffe that doesn't hurt anyone. But lord, he makes a gaffe every few hours. 

Biden is a gaffe.  His dementia is showing.

Why would it be dementia?

To me it sounds like regular old-age senile and/or stress. Not dementia like my grandmother had.

Senile sounds about right.

Right on cue.

https://apple.news/AKBS48fM5TmKZw9Jq-JDKOA

I don’t think it’s just a party line. That man is losing it. He really is. It’s sad watching him try to talk sometimes. A day or two ago he said he wants to bring us back to the “Obiden/Bama” years. And we all misspeak like that from time to time. But it’s everyday (every few hours really) with Joe. I think it’s perfectly reasonable for the GOP or Fox News to harp on this. 

Losing it how? Like asking why we can’t nuke a hurricane? Or drawing his own map of a hurricane’s path and presenting it as fact? Or losing it like tossing paper towels to hurricane survivors? Or losing it by stating that Putin on the ritz told him Russia didn’t interfere in our elections so it must be true? Or losing it by watching a couple of prostitutes peeing on a bed?

Hahahaha, GREAT argument for Biden, dude. He hasn't lost it as much as Donald Trump. Talk about a low bar. 

You said he “was losing it.” I’m asking you to define “losing it.” There’s a scale of what apparently is acceptable to you and others around here so I want to know what is it specifically that Sleepy “Woke” Joe has said or done that illustrates for you that “he’s losing it.” He referred to an AR15 as an AR14? Oh my god lock him up but let’s give that nuking a hurricane a try? Never been done before and you don’t know until you try.


Comparing Biden to Team Trump Treason is a great argument for Biden to anyone living in reality. Talk about how far some have fallen.

Come on, man. Get Trump off your mind for the first time in years, and just judge Joe on his own. He can't even remember Obama's name! Watch....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRtWGRgR5Aw

Ummmmm, who’s the repub nominee likely to be in 2020? Given the choice I think it’s going to be, Sleepy “Woke” Joe is the better choice. Nor has he “lost it” like you’d like to claim but even if he does or did “lose it,” he’d be the better choice.

So you refuse to just judge Joe on his own as I asked. Typical. In a vaccum, independent of Trump and everything else, just look at the guy. It's sad to watch. ("SADDER THAN TEAM TRUMP TREASON WATCHING PUTIN ON THE RITZ PEE ON A HOOKER!?!?!") No, independent of Trump, just judging Joe being Joe, it's sad to watch. 

I mean, like you, I'll vote for him for president over Trump. Hey, if nothing else, he'll be another president that makes George W. Bush look not-so-dumb by comparison. 

Why does he need to be judged on his own? That's a false premise since the election is just about down to a binary choice. The comparison to Trump is the only one top make. 

We weren't even talking about the election (though I understand the overall thread is about the election). Halifax suggested to call out Biden for going senile is a Fox News talking point. I responded that I think there's something to that claim that old-age might be getting the best of Biden. So I don't see a need for a comparison to Trump there. We all know he's a sociopath. 

You can see the videos with your own eyes. I'm not saying don't vote for the guy, but clearly something is going on. It's wild when people rush in to explain how you're not seeing what you're seeing. Feels Trumpy.

Yep. And you're right about it feeling Trumpy. A very "2+2=5" sort of thing. 

CM189191 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

CM189191 said:

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CM189191 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

PJPOWER said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

"Joe Biden told a factory worker 'you're full of sh--' during a tense argument over guns"

Go get em Joe. Make all the gop liars eat sh--!

He still has the fighting spirit, I'll give him that. But he still called it an AR-14 instead of an AR-15. I know, simple gaffe that doesn't hurt anyone. But lord, he makes a gaffe every few hours. 

Biden is a gaffe.  His dementia is showing.

Why would it be dementia?

To me it sounds like regular old-age senile and/or stress. Not dementia like my grandmother had.

Senile sounds about right.

Right on cue.

https://apple.news/AKBS48fM5TmKZw9Jq-JDKOA

I don’t think it’s just a party line. That man is losing it. He really is. It’s sad watching him try to talk sometimes. A day or two ago he said he wants to bring us back to the “Obiden/Bama” years. And we all misspeak like that from time to time. But it’s everyday (every few hours really) with Joe. I think it’s perfectly reasonable for the GOP or Fox News to harp on this. 

....you do know that Biden has a speech impediment, right?

Have you seen him in 2012 and now? 

Do you think the difference is his speech impediment?

He is 77 years old.

I think the difference is is he's running for president now and threatened by the Trump campaign so they're pulling out every hit job they can against him That's what the difference is.

Where are Trump's medical records? Let's see them.

And the tax returns? 

A straw man (or strawman) is a form of argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".

Biden's medical records are out there. From late last year. You can go look at them. That's directly refuting your argument. Biden was seen by a medical professional and deemed in excellent health.

mrussel1 said:

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The Juggler said:

Should be a big night for Joe tonight

Yeah getting back to the actual election, I do think he all but sews it up tonight. Yet I still think Sanders will truck on through April before conceding. 

He might want one more debate.