Ok, admit it...what songs do nothing for you...

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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    thunderDAN wrote:
    Ledbetter is just a orphaned guitar riff with Ed mumbling over it. There is a reason it was never on a album- because the band wasn't proud of it. I'm not saying it's one of the worst songs they have put out, but it should get mentions before some that I see on here frequently (Betterman, Come Back, even Wishlist)

    you can tell PJ hates Ledbetter because of how they refuse to play it ... oh wait.

    A better reason it was left off those earlier albums is because it was too bluesy and too good and too radio-friendly ... and they weren't in the business of writing hits at that time.
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  • MattyJoe
    MattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    hobbes wrote:
    are you kidding? the music to that song is horrible. a terrible mid-tempo bland fest. it doesn't go anywhere. nothing interesting at all happens in that song.

    maybe i'm just not old enough to think it's good. still got some hearing left.

    I've never been a fan of most of the music in the beginning. Too waltzy and countryish.

    Until 4:23... That's when the chills start.
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  • vedderoffdead
    vedderoffdead Posts: 688
    Big Ed wrote:
    I apologze to Hobbs & vedderoff dead for my rude outburst. It was uncalled for and childish, but some of this stuff is hard to believe. It seems like some of you must be kidding.

    Apology accepted, BigEd.

    I have found that the problem with a band like Pearl Jam is that 95% of their catalog is so absolutely stellar that when they put out anything that's even remotely sub-par it sticks out like a sore thumb! If you think about it, PJ's B and C sides are better than most bands' A material...and that's a cold hard fact...
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    thunderDAN wrote:
    wow. I've heard it all now.

    IMO Come Back is a top 15 PJ song

    Only song I sit down for
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • i am a target
    i am a target Posts: 808
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Ah .... Ed is amazing in that song. Especially the last half. And Mike's little solo there gives me goosebumps every.fucking.time. I've never really lost a close relative before, but I'm sure when that day comes, I'll never be able to listen to Come Back again. The song will just be too real and too painful at that point.

    I'm sorry you don't like it or get it, and can't headbang to it because it's too mid-tempo, but there's no need to bash those of us who do.

    i'm not bashing with any intent of being mean. i'm just doing a little smack talking. i know it does a lot for some people and i wouldn't ever try to take that away for anyone or be mean about it. i'm just messing around like i would with some friends. just a friendly round of shit talking.
  • bernmodi
    bernmodi Posts: 631
    Around the Bend - lame
    Nothing as it seems - boring
    Spin the black circle - not worth all this screaming
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    hobbes wrote:
    i'm not bashing with any intent of being mean. i'm just doing a little smack talking. i know it does a lot for some people and i wouldn't ever try to take that away for anyone or be mean about it. i'm just messing around like i would with some friends. just a friendly round of shit talking.

    fair enough .... you fuckwad! ;)
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  • i am a target
    i am a target Posts: 808
    vedderoffdead wrote:
    Apology accepted, BigEd.

    I have found that the problem with a band like Pearl Jam is that 95% of their catalog is so absolutely stellar that when they put out anything that's even remotely sub-par it sticks out like a sore thumb! If you think about it, PJ's B and C sides are better than most bands' A material...and that's a cold hard fact...


    no worries brother. all in the spirit of the argument. i don't take any of it personal.
  • thunderDAN
    thunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    slightofjeff wrote:
    you can tell PJ hates Ledbetter because of how they refuse to play it ... oh wait.

    A better reason it was left off those earlier albums is because it was too bluesy and too good and too radio-friendly ... and they weren't in the business of writing hits at that time.

    how can you call it 'writing a hit' when mike himself says it was just a riff he used to play and Ed just made up words..so they put it out as a B-side. They didn't expect a song with no lyrical meaning to be a hit. It explains it in the book for Lost Dogs
  • MattyJoe
    MattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    thunderDAN wrote:
    not a PJ song

    I was using as an example to show that I don't dislike anything but "headbanger" music, an accusation put forth by slightofjeff.
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,556
    It gives me great pleasure to be the first to nominate "Parachutes." OMG, what a buzz kill!! :D
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • i am a target
    i am a target Posts: 808
    slightofjeff wrote:
    fair enough .... you fuckwad! ;)

    exactly :P
  • MattyJoe
    MattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    imalive wrote:
    It gives me great pleasure to be the first to nominate "Parachutes." OMG, what a buzz kill!! :D

    Forgot about that one. Lyrics may be good but the music...
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  • thunderDAN
    thunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    MattyJoe wrote:
    I was using as an example to show that I don't dislike anything but "headbanger" music, an accusation put forth by slightofjeff.

    I am personally bored with the 'Headbanging' songs
  • Indifference
    Indifference Posts: 2,783
    Wishlist
    Last Kiss

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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,014
    bernmodi wrote:
    Spin the black circle - not worth all this screaming

    It's fucking awesome man. STBC is definitive Pearl Jam
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  • faithfull44
    faithfull44 Posts: 14
    Sweet Lew
    Army Reserve
    Bee Girl
    Leatherman

    Evacuation grew on me. Ghost, too, though I could do without it. Cropduster, eh...
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    thunderDAN wrote:
    how can you call it 'writing a hit' when mike himself says it was just a riff he used to play and Ed just made up words..so they put it out as a B-side. They didn't expect a song with no lyrical meaning to be a hit. It explains it in the book for Lost Dogs

    You're right. It could be, in the beginning, they didn't realize how good it was.

    But the song-writing process you just described was pretty much the process for most of their songs in the beginning ... somebody playing a riff they had in their back pocket, with ed placing words over it.

    also, the words have always had lyrical meaning. It has always been an anti-war song ... even if some of the words were mumbled or re-arranged in a live setting. Ed has explained that it was first written to protest the first Gulf War ... I'd imagine it gets played so much more nowadays due to world events.
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  • thunderDAN
    thunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    Indifference wrote:
    Last Kiss

    last Kiss sucks, but it's not a PJ song so I didn't mention it. If this topic includes covers I nominate Driven to Tears as the worst song ever. I would much rather see a 2 hour performance of Evacuation than a 5 minute performance of the drubble that is Driven to Tears
  • weenie
    weenie Posts: 1,623
    edvedderrocks wrote:
    thumbing my way is such a well written song. one of my top five favorites.

    least favorites: green disease, daughter, comatose

    I LOVE Green Disease (I think mostly for what it says)... love Daughter and Comatose for both the words and the music. Thumbing My Way grew on me, but CAN'T STAND Comback except for the very end when Ed hums or whatever it is he's doing. I'm seriously hoping he doesn't sing it this tour. Sorry - it just bores me.
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