Who is your choice in the Democratic Presidential Primary?

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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    brianlux said:
    After tonight's debate, and having just a few more days to mail my ballot, I've decided to go with Bernie after all.  Pete blew it with his phony and arrogant attacks on Sanders and the others have worn thin on me.  Bernie it is for me!






    You are the first winner. 

    Everyone climbing on the Bernie Bandwagon gets a free one. Congrats sir!


    So tell me who would beat Trump if not Bernie? 
    someone who is interested in uniting people, instead of dividing them
    I believe the "we need to unite" thing is a pundit and political air castle thing without base in reality. People have argued that the low turnout in the early states was because they were content with whoever got elected. Anyone being better than Trump.

    CM189191 said:

    really anyone except bernie

    Lol.. yeah.... okey... no need to go down your list any further it seems.. Put your life savings on Steyer. And I keep mine on the most beloved senator in the country, Bernie Sanders.
    Steyer stands a better chance against Trump than Bernie does. He'll lose too though.

    Bernie will get his ass kicked in the swing states that matter. Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania Florida Ohio none of these states are going to go for Bernie.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,352
    Joe Biden
    brianlux said:

    cincybearcat said:
    brianlux said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    brianlux said:
    After tonight's debate, and having just a few more days to mail my ballot, I've decided to go with Bernie after all.  Pete blew it with his phony and arrogant attacks on Sanders and the others have worn thin on me.  Bernie it is for me!






    You are the first winner. 

    Everyone climbing on the Bernie Bandwagon gets a free one. Congrats sir!



    So instead of baiting, why don't you try to convince me that there's a better choice.

    Oh, but what am I thinking.  It's so much more fun to bait and berate other people.

    Fuck this place.
    Hahahaha I can see you are where I was last week. Relax Brian, it’s all good. I think voting for Bernie is a mistake but that doesn’t make you a mistake ;)

    LOL, thank you for the vote of confidence, Cincy!  :smiley: 

    This whole election thing is feeling very stressful.  I might have to have a beer or six after I get off work today.  :smile:

    I'm actually having to defend sanders to people now bc he is the frontrunner 

    Nobody I know IRL in my blue state thinks sanders has a chance against trump.
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,435
    Mike Bloomberg
    Lerxst1992 said:
    brianlux said:

    cincybearcat said:
    brianlux said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    brianlux said:
    After tonight's debate, and having just a few more days to mail my ballot, I've decided to go with Bernie after all.  Pete blew it with his phony and arrogant attacks on Sanders and the others have worn thin on me.  Bernie it is for me!






    You are the first winner. 

    Everyone climbing on the Bernie Bandwagon gets a free one. Congrats sir!



    So instead of baiting, why don't you try to convince me that there's a better choice.

    Oh, but what am I thinking.  It's so much more fun to bait and berate other people.

    Fuck this place.
    Hahahaha I can see you are where I was last week. Relax Brian, it’s all good. I think voting for Bernie is a mistake but that doesn’t make you a mistake ;)

    LOL, thank you for the vote of confidence, Cincy!  :smiley: 

    This whole election thing is feeling very stressful.  I might have to have a beer or six after I get off work today.  :smile:

    I'm actually having to defend sanders to people now bc he is the frontrunner 

    Nobody I know IRL in my blue state thinks sanders has a chance against trump.
    The problem is that if there's one thing that can drive marginal Republicans to the voting booth come general election, it's an opponent who's threatening to bring a stigmatized 'ism' to the USA. Ultimately, every candidate comes with baggage, but some baggage is easier to weaponize than other baggage. This one is simply dangerously easy.

    I don't think Sanders as the general nominee will do any worse than any other DNC nominee from a Democratic turnout perspective, but I think he has the highest likelihood of drawing out Republicans who get concerned enough to vote Trump (instead of potentially simply staying home).
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,760
    Andrew Yang
    Well, my ballot is filled out, sealed in the envelope and ready to mail.   In the end, believing a vote for Yang would be a throw away vote (he is still my favorite by far!) and believing Bernie will take California anyway, I went with Amy Klobuchar.  I still like what Bernie stands for, I still believe we need more progressive people in office, but most of all, I believe we need to not get stuck with Trump for another for years.

    For those who gave me shit for saying I was going to vote for Sanders, please, just keep your comments to yourself.  I don't need to hear it, thanks.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    brianlux said:
    Well, my ballot is filled out, sealed in the envelope and ready to mail.   In the end, believing a vote for Yang would be a throw away vote (he is still my favorite by far!) and believing Bernie will take California anyway, I went with Amy Klobuchar.  I still like what Bernie stands for, I still believe we need more progressive people in office, but most of all, I believe we need to not get stuck with Trump for another for years.

    For those who gave me shit for saying I was going to vote for Sanders, please, just keep your comments to yourself.  I don't need to hear it, thanks.
    KLOMENTUM!!

    Amy/Pete 2020!!
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,760
    Andrew Yang
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    Well, my ballot is filled out, sealed in the envelope and ready to mail.   In the end, believing a vote for Yang would be a throw away vote (he is still my favorite by far!) and believing Bernie will take California anyway, I went with Amy Klobuchar.  I still like what Bernie stands for, I still believe we need more progressive people in office, but most of all, I believe we need to not get stuck with Trump for another for years.

    For those who gave me shit for saying I was going to vote for Sanders, please, just keep your comments to yourself.  I don't need to hear it, thanks.
    KLOMENTUM!!

    Amy/Pete 2020!!

    "Klomentum" LOL.  Big question is, what are her chances?  I really don't know.

    Amy as pres. and somebody as VP would be great.  I liked Pete a lot for a while but I can't say I'm big on him right now.  I really disliked him in the last two debates.   But I'd take Pete over Dumpster for president any day and Pete for VP over some of the billionaire candidates, as well. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    Well, my ballot is filled out, sealed in the envelope and ready to mail.   In the end, believing a vote for Yang would be a throw away vote (he is still my favorite by far!) and believing Bernie will take California anyway, I went with Amy Klobuchar.  I still like what Bernie stands for, I still believe we need more progressive people in office, but most of all, I believe we need to not get stuck with Trump for another for years.

    For those who gave me shit for saying I was going to vote for Sanders, please, just keep your comments to yourself.  I don't need to hear it, thanks.
    KLOMENTUM!!

    Amy/Pete 2020!!

    "Klomentum" LOL.  Big question is, what are her chances?  I really don't know.

    Amy as pres. and somebody as VP would be great.  I liked Pete a lot for a while but I can't say I'm big on him right now.  I really disliked him in the last two debates.   But I'd take Pete over Dumpster for president any day and Pete for VP over some of the billionaire candidates, as well. 

    Well she's intelligent, qualified, well spoken, successful.  So her chances are somewhere between slim and none because American voters are f****** morons.
  • CM189191
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,760
    Andrew Yang
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    Well, my ballot is filled out, sealed in the envelope and ready to mail.   In the end, believing a vote for Yang would be a throw away vote (he is still my favorite by far!) and believing Bernie will take California anyway, I went with Amy Klobuchar.  I still like what Bernie stands for, I still believe we need more progressive people in office, but most of all, I believe we need to not get stuck with Trump for another for years.

    For those who gave me shit for saying I was going to vote for Sanders, please, just keep your comments to yourself.  I don't need to hear it, thanks.
    KLOMENTUM!!

    Amy/Pete 2020!!

    "Klomentum" LOL.  Big question is, what are her chances?  I really don't know.

    Amy as pres. and somebody as VP would be great.  I liked Pete a lot for a while but I can't say I'm big on him right now.  I really disliked him in the last two debates.   But I'd take Pete over Dumpster for president any day and Pete for VP over some of the billionaire candidates, as well. 

    Well she's intelligent, qualified, well spoken, successful.  So her chances are somewhere between slim and none because American voters are f****** morons.

    As was Andrew Yang (at least I think so.)

    Only the good (candidates) die (out of the election process) young.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,644
    Bernie Sanders
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    brianlux said:
    After tonight's debate, and having just a few more days to mail my ballot, I've decided to go with Bernie after all.  Pete blew it with his phony and arrogant attacks on Sanders and the others have worn thin on me.  Bernie it is for me!






    You are the first winner. 

    Everyone climbing on the Bernie Bandwagon gets a free one. Congrats sir!


    So tell me who would beat Trump if not Bernie? 
    someone who is interested in uniting people, instead of dividing them
    I believe the "we need to unite" thing is a pundit and political air castle thing without base in reality. People have argued that the low turnout in the early states was because they were content with whoever got elected. Anyone being better than Trump.

    CM189191 said:

    really anyone except bernie

    Lol.. yeah.... okey... no need to go down your list any further it seems.. Put your life savings on Steyer. And I keep mine on the most beloved senator in the country, Bernie Sanders.
    Steyer stands a better chance against Trump than Bernie does. He'll lose too though.

    Bernie will get his ass kicked in the swing states that matter. Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania Florida Ohio none of these states are going to go for Bernie.
    He'll sweep them. 


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,644
    edited February 2020
    Bernie Sanders
    CM189191 said:

    This is cool.Even though I do not fully understand it.

    Would want an Z-axis on how likely they are to beat Trump according to polling. What determines where they are placed in the space? Why is tulsi down-left and not down-right or top-left for example.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    Well, my ballot is filled out, sealed in the envelope and ready to mail.   In the end, believing a vote for Yang would be a throw away vote (he is still my favorite by far!) and believing Bernie will take California anyway, I went with Amy Klobuchar.  I still like what Bernie stands for, I still believe we need more progressive people in office, but most of all, I believe we need to not get stuck with Trump for another for years.

    For those who gave me shit for saying I was going to vote for Sanders, please, just keep your comments to yourself.  I don't need to hear it, thanks.
    KLOMENTUM!!

    Amy/Pete 2020!!

    "Klomentum" LOL.  Big question is, what are her chances?  I really don't know.

    Amy as pres. and somebody as VP would be great.  I liked Pete a lot for a while but I can't say I'm big on him right now.  I really disliked him in the last two debates.   But I'd take Pete over Dumpster for president any day and Pete for VP over some of the billionaire candidates, as well. 

    Well she's intelligent, qualified, well spoken, successful.  So her chances are somewhere between slim and none because American voters are f****** morons.

    As was Andrew Yang (at least I think so.)

    Only the good (candidates) die (out of the election process) young.
    Klobuchar was the primary sponsor of 34 bills that were enacted. 

    How many did Yang have again? 
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    brianlux said:
    After tonight's debate, and having just a few more days to mail my ballot, I've decided to go with Bernie after all.  Pete blew it with his phony and arrogant attacks on Sanders and the others have worn thin on me.  Bernie it is for me!






    You are the first winner. 

    Everyone climbing on the Bernie Bandwagon gets a free one. Congrats sir!


    So tell me who would beat Trump if not Bernie? 
    someone who is interested in uniting people, instead of dividing them
    I believe the "we need to unite" thing is a pundit and political air castle thing without base in reality. People have argued that the low turnout in the early states was because they were content with whoever got elected. Anyone being better than Trump.

    CM189191 said:

    really anyone except bernie

    Lol.. yeah.... okey... no need to go down your list any further it seems.. Put your life savings on Steyer. And I keep mine on the most beloved senator in the country, Bernie Sanders.
    Steyer stands a better chance against Trump than Bernie does. He'll lose too though.

    Bernie will get his ass kicked in the swing states that matter. Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania Florida Ohio none of these states are going to go for Bernie.
    He'll sweep them. 


    No, Bernie will get his ass handed to him in flyover swing states.

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    I guess some people just want to watch the world burn. 
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Serious question: Bernie's ancient, just had a heart attack, and knocking on death store.

    Who does he pick his VP?

    No one on that debate stage is going to stand with him.

    Is it Tulsi Gabbard, Marianne Williamson, Jill Stein?

    Who does Bernie pick as his number two?


  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Lerxst1992 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I like warren, and it's too bad she's sliding in the polls. she makes the most sense and actually tells you what her plans are and how she'll do it. 
    friendly reminder that only 5% of the delegates have been declared
    there's a long road ahead
    as more candidates drop out, those delegates will migrate to the more moderate candidates who remain
    (that won't be bernie)
    bernie has 43 delegates
    the rest of the field has 54 combined
    why does this look like you are refuting your own post?

    It's still less than 50%. No way they are changing the rules for an outsider
    Just gonna leave this here


  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:

    This is cool.Even though I do not fully understand it.

    Would want an Z-axis on how likely they are to beat Trump according to polling. What determines where they are placed in the space? Why is tulsi down-left and not down-right or top-left for example.
    Not sure but I've seen this type of poll a few times. 
     
    Warren consistently comes across as everyone's second pick. Which means she by far and away has the broadest support.

    We need ranked choice voting now.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,644
    edited February 2020
    Bernie Sanders
    nvm
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,352
    Joe Biden
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:

    This is cool.Even though I do not fully understand it.

    Would want an Z-axis on how likely they are to beat Trump according to polling. What determines where they are placed in the space? Why is tulsi down-left and not down-right or top-left for example.
    Not sure but I've seen this type of poll a few times. 
     
    Warren consistently comes across as everyone's second pick. Which means she by far and away has the broadest support.

    We need ranked choice voting now.

    A woman and a bully AND a socialist?

    Might as well hand trump his crown now.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Lerxst1992 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:

    This is cool.Even though I do not fully understand it.

    Would want an Z-axis on how likely they are to beat Trump according to polling. What determines where they are placed in the space? Why is tulsi down-left and not down-right or top-left for example.
    Not sure but I've seen this type of poll a few times. 
     
    Warren consistently comes across as everyone's second pick. Which means she by far and away has the broadest support.

    We need ranked choice voting now.

    A woman and a bully AND a socialist?

    Might as well hand trump his crown now.
    Warren was a special education teacher She knows exactly how to handle Trump
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,023
    CM189191 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I like warren, and it's too bad she's sliding in the polls. she makes the most sense and actually tells you what her plans are and how she'll do it. 
    friendly reminder that only 5% of the delegates have been declared
    there's a long road ahead
    as more candidates drop out, those delegates will migrate to the more moderate candidates who remain
    (that won't be bernie)
    That is exactly what everyone said about Trump 4 years ago. Everyone said "don't worry, as some of the other 15 candidates drop out then their votes will not go to Trump." But that is exactly what happened. I'm guessing it will happen here too. Bernie only needs about 20% of the other voters when they drop to keep the lead, and that isnt much.

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