The Democratic Presidential Debates
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Why are you speaking like a Bernie Brother but avoiding to mention the king himself? He addresses your problems. And is Yangs favorite. Waiting for that Yang endorsement!brianlux said:Lerxst1992 said:brianlux said:Here's an interesting thought. This, I fully admit, is hypothetical, but I like to get these thoughts down anyway:There seems to be a wide spread feeling among Democratic voters that this year's Democratic primary is very frustrating. Other than the die hard fans in each camp, many of us do not feel strongly about any of the front running candidates. Most of us moderately to strongly dislike certain aspects of all or most of the candidates and many of us strongly dislike some of them altogether. Yet, when we were talking about Andrew Yang, I heard very little negative feedback about him. And that's not just here, that is in general. He seems well liked and well likeable. So why is he out of the race? I believe it is money. Sadly, in America, money wins the game. (Bloomberg may well prove to be the exception.)So my wild assed hypothesis is this: If every registered Democrat in America had made a one time donation of $10 to Andrew Yang's campaign, I believe he would be leading the pack. True, he did not do well in the last debate he was in, but there were circumstances that contributed to that: he was mostly ignored by the panel and given little time, he was exhausted from a crazy hard schedule trying to raise many and he also had to make more appearances than the others to get some exposure, and I have read that his mic was cut at times during the debate.The man is well liked by a broad spectrum of people. If only, in a more perfect world. If only.I like yang but part of his problem is the same issue MB had last night, experience. It’s a lot to ask of Yang to take the stage and beat the experienced politician. Yes trump did that, but believe it or not he is a once in a generation highly skilled politician. As an outsider, he knew republicans were ripe for the taking, if he gave them guns and baby judges. And as an outsider, his outlandish attacks stick, something that only works with voters who like bullies, aka republicans
MB also failed yesterday due to lack of experience. He was sucker punched by warren, mostly because as a woman warren gets away with crap that a man would not. And we have some sort of weird ritual where it’s ok to publicly berate a billionaire. I wonder if any politician other than trump mocked Bernie in the days he had less money, how that would have flied with the voters.I'll just address the part I put it bold since that is what relates to Yang here.Yes, it is true Andrew Yang does not have much experience in the politics-as-usual format. But I would argue that the problem is not necessarily that someone like Yang has little experience in an institution that has proven itself to be dysfunctional and ineffective. Indicators of the system as it stands to be dysfunctional and ineffective include:-Failure to address climate change in a timely fashion.-An increasing disparity between the wealthy and the poor.-Increased homelessness in America.-Unequal opportunities for women (some improvement, but still unequal with men).-In general, the U.S. is lagging behind in education.-Inability to rein in pharmaceutical companies and health care systems to make health care available to all those who nee it.-The inability to curb gun violence.-Failure to maintain infrastructure properly.-Continued reliance on moving goods by roadway instead of refurbishing our rail system (way behind Europe and other places that way).-Loss of manufacturing.I would argue that someone like Yang who is bright and energetic, who has innovative ideas, who strives to unite rather than divide, who emphasizes humanity- that to me is more valuable than electing yet another career politician who will simply carry on business as usual.Be assured, I am under no delusion that America is yet willing to discontinue going down the failing path it is on. Using the analogy of a substance abuser, we may need to hit rock bottom before we crawl back up and begin to become a healthier nation once again. But I can at least hope that someone like Andrew Yang will provide some food for thought and perhaps some inspiration for taking action and making sensible changes. And maybe even get elected some day. Stranger things have happened- look who is POTUS today.Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Warren proposes contract to free women from Bloomberg NDAs
https://youtu.be/aa_1Ac0X860
Haha. Warren is back!
"In the end is gonna be Trump VS Someone, and I'm liking someone"Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Spiritual_Chaos said:
Why are you speaking like a Bernie Brother but avoiding to mention the king himself? He addresses your problems. And is Yangs favorite. Waiting for that Yang endorsement!brianlux said:Lerxst1992 said:brianlux said:Here's an interesting thought. This, I fully admit, is hypothetical, but I like to get these thoughts down anyway:There seems to be a wide spread feeling among Democratic voters that this year's Democratic primary is very frustrating. Other than the die hard fans in each camp, many of us do not feel strongly about any of the front running candidates. Most of us moderately to strongly dislike certain aspects of all or most of the candidates and many of us strongly dislike some of them altogether. Yet, when we were talking about Andrew Yang, I heard very little negative feedback about him. And that's not just here, that is in general. He seems well liked and well likeable. So why is he out of the race? I believe it is money. Sadly, in America, money wins the game. (Bloomberg may well prove to be the exception.)So my wild assed hypothesis is this: If every registered Democrat in America had made a one time donation of $10 to Andrew Yang's campaign, I believe he would be leading the pack. True, he did not do well in the last debate he was in, but there were circumstances that contributed to that: he was mostly ignored by the panel and given little time, he was exhausted from a crazy hard schedule trying to raise many and he also had to make more appearances than the others to get some exposure, and I have read that his mic was cut at times during the debate.The man is well liked by a broad spectrum of people. If only, in a more perfect world. If only.I like yang but part of his problem is the same issue MB had last night, experience. It’s a lot to ask of Yang to take the stage and beat the experienced politician. Yes trump did that, but believe it or not he is a once in a generation highly skilled politician. As an outsider, he knew republicans were ripe for the taking, if he gave them guns and baby judges. And as an outsider, his outlandish attacks stick, something that only works with voters who like bullies, aka republicans
MB also failed yesterday due to lack of experience. He was sucker punched by warren, mostly because as a woman warren gets away with crap that a man would not. And we have some sort of weird ritual where it’s ok to publicly berate a billionaire. I wonder if any politician other than trump mocked Bernie in the days he had less money, how that would have flied with the voters.I'll just address the part I put it bold since that is what relates to Yang here.Yes, it is true Andrew Yang does not have much experience in the politics-as-usual format. But I would argue that the problem is not necessarily that someone like Yang has little experience in an institution that has proven itself to be dysfunctional and ineffective. Indicators of the system as it stands to be dysfunctional and ineffective include:-Failure to address climate change in a timely fashion.-An increasing disparity between the wealthy and the poor.-Increased homelessness in America.-Unequal opportunities for women (some improvement, but still unequal with men).-In general, the U.S. is lagging behind in education.-Inability to rein in pharmaceutical companies and health care systems to make health care available to all those who nee it.-The inability to curb gun violence.-Failure to maintain infrastructure properly.-Continued reliance on moving goods by roadway instead of refurbishing our rail system (way behind Europe and other places that way).-Loss of manufacturing.I would argue that someone like Yang who is bright and energetic, who has innovative ideas, who strives to unite rather than divide, who emphasizes humanity- that to me is more valuable than electing yet another career politician who will simply carry on business as usual.Be assured, I am under no delusion that America is yet willing to discontinue going down the failing path it is on. Using the analogy of a substance abuser, we may need to hit rock bottom before we crawl back up and begin to become a healthier nation once again. But I can at least hope that someone like Andrew Yang will provide some food for thought and perhaps some inspiration for taking action and making sensible changes. And maybe even get elected some day. Stranger things have happened- look who is POTUS today.
I'm not avoiding anything. I say what's on my mind. Always have, always do, always will. Take it or leave it. It don't mean shit to a tree anyway.
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brianlux said:Spiritual_Chaos said:
Why are you speaking like a Bernie Brother but avoiding to mention the king himself? He addresses your problems. And is Yangs favorite. Waiting for that Yang endorsement!brianlux said:Lerxst1992 said:brianlux said:Here's an interesting thought. This, I fully admit, is hypothetical, but I like to get these thoughts down anyway:There seems to be a wide spread feeling among Democratic voters that this year's Democratic primary is very frustrating. Other than the die hard fans in each camp, many of us do not feel strongly about any of the front running candidates. Most of us moderately to strongly dislike certain aspects of all or most of the candidates and many of us strongly dislike some of them altogether. Yet, when we were talking about Andrew Yang, I heard very little negative feedback about him. And that's not just here, that is in general. He seems well liked and well likeable. So why is he out of the race? I believe it is money. Sadly, in America, money wins the game. (Bloomberg may well prove to be the exception.)So my wild assed hypothesis is this: If every registered Democrat in America had made a one time donation of $10 to Andrew Yang's campaign, I believe he would be leading the pack. True, he did not do well in the last debate he was in, but there were circumstances that contributed to that: he was mostly ignored by the panel and given little time, he was exhausted from a crazy hard schedule trying to raise many and he also had to make more appearances than the others to get some exposure, and I have read that his mic was cut at times during the debate.The man is well liked by a broad spectrum of people. If only, in a more perfect world. If only.I like yang but part of his problem is the same issue MB had last night, experience. It’s a lot to ask of Yang to take the stage and beat the experienced politician. Yes trump did that, but believe it or not he is a once in a generation highly skilled politician. As an outsider, he knew republicans were ripe for the taking, if he gave them guns and baby judges. And as an outsider, his outlandish attacks stick, something that only works with voters who like bullies, aka republicans
MB also failed yesterday due to lack of experience. He was sucker punched by warren, mostly because as a woman warren gets away with crap that a man would not. And we have some sort of weird ritual where it’s ok to publicly berate a billionaire. I wonder if any politician other than trump mocked Bernie in the days he had less money, how that would have flied with the voters.I'll just address the part I put it bold since that is what relates to Yang here.Yes, it is true Andrew Yang does not have much experience in the politics-as-usual format. But I would argue that the problem is not necessarily that someone like Yang has little experience in an institution that has proven itself to be dysfunctional and ineffective. Indicators of the system as it stands to be dysfunctional and ineffective include:-Failure to address climate change in a timely fashion.-An increasing disparity between the wealthy and the poor.-Increased homelessness in America.-Unequal opportunities for women (some improvement, but still unequal with men).-In general, the U.S. is lagging behind in education.-Inability to rein in pharmaceutical companies and health care systems to make health care available to all those who nee it.-The inability to curb gun violence.-Failure to maintain infrastructure properly.-Continued reliance on moving goods by roadway instead of refurbishing our rail system (way behind Europe and other places that way).-Loss of manufacturing.I would argue that someone like Yang who is bright and energetic, who has innovative ideas, who strives to unite rather than divide, who emphasizes humanity- that to me is more valuable than electing yet another career politician who will simply carry on business as usual.Be assured, I am under no delusion that America is yet willing to discontinue going down the failing path it is on. Using the analogy of a substance abuser, we may need to hit rock bottom before we crawl back up and begin to become a healthier nation once again. But I can at least hope that someone like Andrew Yang will provide some food for thought and perhaps some inspiration for taking action and making sensible changes. And maybe even get elected some day. Stranger things have happened- look who is POTUS today.
I'm not avoiding anything. I say what's on my mind. Always have, always do, always will. Take it or leave it. It don't mean shit to a tree anyway.
On the topic of Bernie.
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Haha. Amy needing to hold onto the pulpit at the end. Poor-mans-Obama is getting to her
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Bernie vs. Bloomberg on Electability
https://youtu.be/Jtdgme3BChI
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
It's not surprising. Warren wants people that signed loan contracts to get the benefit and not pay. She want people who signed NDAs to get the whatever they got to agree to sign and then still not abide by the contract. She is very consistent.Spiritual_Chaos said:Warren proposes contract to free women from Bloomberg NDAs
https://youtu.be/aa_1Ac0X860
Haha. Warren is back!
"In the end is gonna be Trump VS Someone, and I'm liking someone"hippiemom = goodness0 -
Would you enjoy having a president who has been forced to sign a bunch of NDAs with female employees?cincybearcat said:
It's not surprising. Warren wants people that signed loan contracts to get the benefit and not pay. She want people who signed NDAs to get the whatever they got to agree to sign and then still not abide by the contract. She is very consistent.Spiritual_Chaos said:Warren proposes contract to free women from Bloomberg NDAs
https://youtu.be/aa_1Ac0X860
Haha. Warren is back!
"In the end is gonna be Trump VS Someone, and I'm liking someone""Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
The inviolability of contracts is more important than sexual harassment!Spiritual_Chaos said:
Would you enjoy having a president who has been forced to sign a bunch of NDAs with female employees?cincybearcat said:
It's not surprising. Warren wants people that signed loan contracts to get the benefit and not pay. She want people who signed NDAs to get the whatever they got to agree to sign and then still not abide by the contract. She is very consistent.Spiritual_Chaos said:Warren proposes contract to free women from Bloomberg NDAs
https://youtu.be/aa_1Ac0X860
Haha. Warren is back!
"In the end is gonna be Trump VS Someone, and I'm liking someone"
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You ranking @cincybearcatSpiritual_Chaos said:DEBATE RANKING
1. Warren (fighting to survive. Killed Bloomberg all by herself)
2. Sanders (Energized and refuted attacks ("if not capitalist it must be communism" "Your healthcare plan is expensive" effecticly.
3. Pete (Best at showing an alternative to Sanders)
4. Biden (Not bad per se but disappeared a lot)
5. Amy (think's her "punchlines" are smarter and more fun then they are)
6. Bloomberg (a Trump test dummie)
1) Pete
2) Warren
3) Joe
4) Bernie
5) Amy
6) Bloomberg
Not that different."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Yeah and after finishing the debate last night...might need to move Warren up to the #1 and slide Pete down 1 spot. While I didn't always like what she said or what she was doing, Warren dominated the narrative of the night. Pete was solid, but got a little petty with Amy I thought...though Amy's responses to him did highlight potential risk with her....she may have finished below Bloomberg even. Joe/Bernie was basically a wash and could be flipped. I put Joe ahead because he benefited on stage the most by Bloomberg being attacked. Well, bernie benefited in that people didnt attack him as much as well.Spiritual_Chaos said:
You ranking @cincybearcatSpiritual_Chaos said:DEBATE RANKING
1. Warren (fighting to survive. Killed Bloomberg all by herself)
2. Sanders (Energized and refuted attacks ("if not capitalist it must be communism" "Your healthcare plan is expensive" effecticly.
3. Pete (Best at showing an alternative to Sanders)
4. Biden (Not bad per se but disappeared a lot)
5. Amy (think's her "punchlines" are smarter and more fun then they are)
6. Bloomberg (a Trump test dummie)
1) Pete
2) Warren
3) Joe
4) Bernie
5) Amy
6) Bloomberg
Not that different.hippiemom = goodness0 -
There's a weird vibe between Pete and Amy. She does not like him and takes what he says very personally, it appears.cincybearcat said:
Yeah and after finishing the debate last night...might need to move Warren up to the #1 and slide Pete down 1 spot. While I didn't always like what she said or what she was doing, Warren dominated the narrative of the night. Pete was solid, but got a little petty with Amy I thought...though Amy's responses to him did highlight potential risk with her....she may have finished below Bloomberg even. Joe/Bernie was basically a wash and could be flipped. I put Joe ahead because he benefited on stage the most by Bloomberg being attacked. Well, bernie benefited in that people didnt attack him as much as well.Spiritual_Chaos said:
You ranking @cincybearcatSpiritual_Chaos said:DEBATE RANKING
1. Warren (fighting to survive. Killed Bloomberg all by herself)
2. Sanders (Energized and refuted attacks ("if not capitalist it must be communism" "Your healthcare plan is expensive" effecticly.
3. Pete (Best at showing an alternative to Sanders)
4. Biden (Not bad per se but disappeared a lot)
5. Amy (think's her "punchlines" are smarter and more fun then they are)
6. Bloomberg (a Trump test dummie)
1) Pete
2) Warren
3) Joe
4) Bernie
5) Amy
6) Bloomberg
Not that different.0 -
How do you all decide which candidates to call by their first names?cincybearcat said:
Yeah and after finishing the debate last night...might need to move Warren up to the #1 and slide Pete down 1 spot. While I didn't always like what she said or what she was doing, Warren dominated the narrative of the night. Pete was solid, but got a little petty with Amy I thought...though Amy's responses to him did highlight potential risk with her....she may have finished below Bloomberg even. Joe/Bernie was basically a wash and could be flipped. I put Joe ahead because he benefited on stage the most by Bloomberg being attacked. Well, bernie benefited in that people didnt attack him as much as well.Spiritual_Chaos said:
You ranking @cincybearcatSpiritual_Chaos said:DEBATE RANKING
1. Warren (fighting to survive. Killed Bloomberg all by herself)
2. Sanders (Energized and refuted attacks ("if not capitalist it must be communism" "Your healthcare plan is expensive" effecticly.
3. Pete (Best at showing an alternative to Sanders)
4. Biden (Not bad per se but disappeared a lot)
5. Amy (think's her "punchlines" are smarter and more fun then they are)
6. Bloomberg (a Trump test dummie)
1) Pete
2) Warren
3) Joe
4) Bernie
5) Amy
6) Bloomberg
Not that different.0 -
Hahaha I wondered when someone would ask me that. No magic bullet, just random mostly. Except I don't really want to spell Pete's or Amy's last name all the time. Usually pick the shorter of the 2 and go with it for the most part.ecdanc said:
How do you all decide which candidates to call by their first names?cincybearcat said:
Yeah and after finishing the debate last night...might need to move Warren up to the #1 and slide Pete down 1 spot. While I didn't always like what she said or what she was doing, Warren dominated the narrative of the night. Pete was solid, but got a little petty with Amy I thought...though Amy's responses to him did highlight potential risk with her....she may have finished below Bloomberg even. Joe/Bernie was basically a wash and could be flipped. I put Joe ahead because he benefited on stage the most by Bloomberg being attacked. Well, bernie benefited in that people didnt attack him as much as well.Spiritual_Chaos said:
You ranking @cincybearcatSpiritual_Chaos said:DEBATE RANKING
1. Warren (fighting to survive. Killed Bloomberg all by herself)
2. Sanders (Energized and refuted attacks ("if not capitalist it must be communism" "Your healthcare plan is expensive" effecticly.
3. Pete (Best at showing an alternative to Sanders)
4. Biden (Not bad per se but disappeared a lot)
5. Amy (think's her "punchlines" are smarter and more fun then they are)
6. Bloomberg (a Trump test dummie)
1) Pete
2) Warren
3) Joe
4) Bernie
5) Amy
6) Bloomberg
Not that different.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Oh and almost everyt ime I think about typing Liz, and then wonder if someone on an internet messageboard will claim it;s sexist or something so I go with Warren.hippiemom = goodness0
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Rich, powerful people can exert a lot of influence in these situations and buy off silence. It's right to press him on this, especially if he's running for President. He doesn't have to back down, but I think it's important that the public understands what they're getting in a candidate.cincybearcat said:
It's not surprising. Warren wants people that signed loan contracts to get the benefit and not pay. She want people who signed NDAs to get the whatever they got to agree to sign and then still not abide by the contract. She is very consistent.Spiritual_Chaos said:Warren proposes contract to free women from Bloomberg NDAs
https://youtu.be/aa_1Ac0X860
Haha. Warren is back!
"In the end is gonna be Trump VS Someone, and I'm liking someone"0 -
ecdanc said:
You still at it with the reverse sexism shtick?Lerxst1992 said:brianlux said:Here's an interesting thought. This, I fully admit, is hypothetical, but I like to get these thoughts down anyway:There seems to be a wide spread feeling among Democratic voters that this year's Democratic primary is very frustrating. Other than the die hard fans in each camp, many of us do not feel strongly about any of the front running candidates. Most of us moderately to strongly dislike certain aspects of all or most of the candidates and many of us strongly dislike some of them altogether. Yet, when we were talking about Andrew Yang, I heard very little negative feedback about him. And that's not just here, that is in general. He seems well liked and well likeable. So why is he out of the race? I believe it is money. Sadly, in America, money wins the game. (Bloomberg may well prove to be the exception.)So my wild assed hypothesis is this: If every registered Democrat in America had made a one time donation of $10 to Andrew Yang's campaign, I believe he would be leading the pack. True, he did not do well in the last debate he was in, but there were circumstances that contributed to that: he was mostly ignored by the panel and given little time, he was exhausted from a crazy hard schedule trying to raise many and he also had to make more appearances than the others to get some exposure, and I have read that his mic was cut at times during the debate.The man is well liked by a broad spectrum of people. If only, in a more perfect world. If only.I like yang but part of his problem is the same issue MB had last night, experience. It’s a lot to ask of Yang to take the stage and beat the experienced politician. Yes trump did that, but believe it or not he is a once in a generation highly skilled politician. As an outsider, he knew republicans were ripe for the taking, if he gave them guns and baby judges. And as an outsider, his outlandish attacks stick, something that only works with voters who like bullies, aka republicans
MB also failed yesterday due to lack of experience. He was sucker punched by warren, mostly because as a woman warren gets away with crap that a man would not. And we have some sort of weird ritual where it’s ok to publicly berate a billionaire. I wonder if any politician other than trump mocked Bernie in the days he had less money, how that would have flied with the voters.
Love to hear an example of a man getting away with that language on a debate stage and an attack like that without verification.
#Warrenistrump0 -
cincybearcat said:
Yeah and after finishing the debate last night...might need to move Warren up to the #1 and slide Pete down 1 spot. While I didn't always like what she said or what she was doing, Warren dominated the narrative of the night. Pete was solid, but got a little petty with Amy I thought...though Amy's responses to him did highlight potential risk with her....she may have finished below Bloomberg even. Joe/Bernie was basically a wash and could be flipped. I put Joe ahead because he benefited on stage the most by Bloomberg being attacked. Well, bernie benefited in that people didnt attack him as much as well.Spiritual_Chaos said:
You ranking @cincybearcatSpiritual_Chaos said:DEBATE RANKING
1. Warren (fighting to survive. Killed Bloomberg all by herself)
2. Sanders (Energized and refuted attacks ("if not capitalist it must be communism" "Your healthcare plan is expensive" effecticly.
3. Pete (Best at showing an alternative to Sanders)
4. Biden (Not bad per se but disappeared a lot)
5. Amy (think's her "punchlines" are smarter and more fun then they are)
6. Bloomberg (a Trump test dummie)
1) Pete
2) Warren
3) Joe
4) Bernie
5) Amy
6) Bloomberg
Not that different.
Warren was an aggressive bully, cut people off, acted with entitlement with her expectation to always speak and slandered a candidate without evidence. We already have someone similar and he is president. On top of all that she is a horse faced liar.0 -
Your hashtag includes the man you're looking for.Lerxst1992 said:ecdanc said:
You still at it with the reverse sexism shtick?Lerxst1992 said:brianlux said:Here's an interesting thought. This, I fully admit, is hypothetical, but I like to get these thoughts down anyway:There seems to be a wide spread feeling among Democratic voters that this year's Democratic primary is very frustrating. Other than the die hard fans in each camp, many of us do not feel strongly about any of the front running candidates. Most of us moderately to strongly dislike certain aspects of all or most of the candidates and many of us strongly dislike some of them altogether. Yet, when we were talking about Andrew Yang, I heard very little negative feedback about him. And that's not just here, that is in general. He seems well liked and well likeable. So why is he out of the race? I believe it is money. Sadly, in America, money wins the game. (Bloomberg may well prove to be the exception.)So my wild assed hypothesis is this: If every registered Democrat in America had made a one time donation of $10 to Andrew Yang's campaign, I believe he would be leading the pack. True, he did not do well in the last debate he was in, but there were circumstances that contributed to that: he was mostly ignored by the panel and given little time, he was exhausted from a crazy hard schedule trying to raise many and he also had to make more appearances than the others to get some exposure, and I have read that his mic was cut at times during the debate.The man is well liked by a broad spectrum of people. If only, in a more perfect world. If only.I like yang but part of his problem is the same issue MB had last night, experience. It’s a lot to ask of Yang to take the stage and beat the experienced politician. Yes trump did that, but believe it or not he is a once in a generation highly skilled politician. As an outsider, he knew republicans were ripe for the taking, if he gave them guns and baby judges. And as an outsider, his outlandish attacks stick, something that only works with voters who like bullies, aka republicans
MB also failed yesterday due to lack of experience. He was sucker punched by warren, mostly because as a woman warren gets away with crap that a man would not. And we have some sort of weird ritual where it’s ok to publicly berate a billionaire. I wonder if any politician other than trump mocked Bernie in the days he had less money, how that would have flied with the voters.
Love to hear an example of a man getting away with that language on a debate stage and an attack like that without verification.
#Warrenistrump
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Lerxst1992 said:cincybearcat said:
Yeah and after finishing the debate last night...might need to move Warren up to the #1 and slide Pete down 1 spot. While I didn't always like what she said or what she was doing, Warren dominated the narrative of the night. Pete was solid, but got a little petty with Amy I thought...though Amy's responses to him did highlight potential risk with her....she may have finished below Bloomberg even. Joe/Bernie was basically a wash and could be flipped. I put Joe ahead because he benefited on stage the most by Bloomberg being attacked. Well, bernie benefited in that people didnt attack him as much as well.Spiritual_Chaos said:
You ranking @cincybearcatSpiritual_Chaos said:DEBATE RANKING
1. Warren (fighting to survive. Killed Bloomberg all by herself)
2. Sanders (Energized and refuted attacks ("if not capitalist it must be communism" "Your healthcare plan is expensive" effecticly.
3. Pete (Best at showing an alternative to Sanders)
4. Biden (Not bad per se but disappeared a lot)
5. Amy (think's her "punchlines" are smarter and more fun then they are)
6. Bloomberg (a Trump test dummie)
1) Pete
2) Warren
3) Joe
4) Bernie
5) Amy
6) Bloomberg
Not that different.
Warren was an aggressive bully, cut people off, acted with entitlement with her expectation to always speak and slandered a candidate without evidence. We already have someone similar and he is president. On top of all that she is a horse faced liar.
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