Fan-to-Fan Ticket Exchange for Dummies

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  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    mpedone said:
    Saltzy23 said:
    droptheleash9 said:
    Is it safe to say that the Baltimore show is the hardest ticket to get in quite some time? I'm talking normal shows, not exclusive one-offs like the Apollo theater gig.
    It's 'artificially' tough though.

    The Apollo and Borgata are/were impossible because the venues were so small.

    This is impossible because you can't buy any of the 14,000 seats anywhere, or even transfer them to someone else.

    If there was a StubHub listing for this show it would what, probably a $250-$300 ticket just to get in roughly?

    Expensive and hard to get no doubt, but it's this overall system that is making getting in impossible, not really the show itself.

    I guess the question is, how many people who have tickets to this show are actually willing to sell them? Is only being able to sell them at face value forcing people to just suck it up and go to the show rather than using them to make a profit?

    If these were available on StubHub, I would not be surprised in the least to see them listing for as much as MSG. Sure, the venue doesn't have the prestige of MSG (and Baltimore isn't NYC), but Baltimore is way easier to get to and stay in than NYC from places like Boston and Manchester. Sure, there's the Canadian shows, but flying into Baltimore is still way cheaper than Toronto or Quebec. And then, it's on a Saturday? Everyone who missed out in the lottery/VF Sale/General Public sale would be buying on StubHub. There'd be a handful of seats left at astronomical prices.
    I think the theory is not that more fans would be selling if they could sell above face, but that in an initial sale for freely transferable Baltimore tickets more brokers would have snapped up tickets for resale. Which is why, as sympathetic as I am to people who are frustrated by their inability to pay a scalper for tickets to this show, I believe that overall it's a better system. 
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  • afgpj
    afgpj Upstate NY Posts: 142
    Some good seats for Nashville out there right now


  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    Baltimore on a Saturday night was the perfect trip from Boston. Can either drive or fly and, thanks to Dimi's hints, we booked a hotel weeks in advance. MSG on a Monday meant burning vacation days. It was a nonstarter for me this time. 
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  • RT228921
    RT228921 Posts: 108
    afgpj said:
    Some good seats for Nashville out there right now


    I tried for them - said someone else had them.
  • flanosmasseur
    flanosmasseur Posts: 287
    afgpj said:
    Some good seats for Nashville out there right now


    Was refreshing for 20 straight minutes and saw those appear...and was then denied. I know you gotta be fast but holy $hit

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  • NewfieintheUSA
    NewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,416
    getting ready to post 2 pairs to STL. Section 303 Row A and Section 114T, row DD
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    tdawe said:
    mpedone said:
    Saltzy23 said:
    droptheleash9 said:
    Is it safe to say that the Baltimore show is the hardest ticket to get in quite some time? I'm talking normal shows, not exclusive one-offs like the Apollo theater gig.
    It's 'artificially' tough though.

    The Apollo and Borgata are/were impossible because the venues were so small.

    This is impossible because you can't buy any of the 14,000 seats anywhere, or even transfer them to someone else.

    If there was a StubHub listing for this show it would what, probably a $250-$300 ticket just to get in roughly?

    Expensive and hard to get no doubt, but it's this overall system that is making getting in impossible, not really the show itself.

    I guess the question is, how many people who have tickets to this show are actually willing to sell them? Is only being able to sell them at face value forcing people to just suck it up and go to the show rather than using them to make a profit?

    If these were available on StubHub, I would not be surprised in the least to see them listing for as much as MSG. Sure, the venue doesn't have the prestige of MSG (and Baltimore isn't NYC), but Baltimore is way easier to get to and stay in than NYC from places like Boston and Manchester. Sure, there's the Canadian shows, but flying into Baltimore is still way cheaper than Toronto or Quebec. And then, it's on a Saturday? Everyone who missed out in the lottery/VF Sale/General Public sale would be buying on StubHub. There'd be a handful of seats left at astronomical prices.
    I think the theory is not that more fans would be selling if they could sell above face, but that in an initial sale for freely transferable Baltimore tickets more brokers would have snapped up tickets for resale. Which is why, as sympathetic as I am to people who are frustrated by their inability to pay a scalper for tickets to this show, I believe that overall it's a better system. 

    I agree. I think we're not seeing a lot because the demand is still so high - tickets are snatched up as soon as they're listed, and there aren't many people looking to sell, because actual fans got the tickets. It's no different than if tickets were on StubHub, but were sold out. People were able to skip the middle man of StubHub/scalpers.
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  • afgpj
    afgpj Upstate NY Posts: 142
    mpedone said:
    tdawe said:
    mpedone said:
    Saltzy23 said:
    droptheleash9 said:
    Is it safe to say that the Baltimore show is the hardest ticket to get in quite some time? I'm talking normal shows, not exclusive one-offs like the Apollo theater gig.
    It's 'artificially' tough though.

    The Apollo and Borgata are/were impossible because the venues were so small.

    This is impossible because you can't buy any of the 14,000 seats anywhere, or even transfer them to someone else.

    If there was a StubHub listing for this show it would what, probably a $250-$300 ticket just to get in roughly?

    Expensive and hard to get no doubt, but it's this overall system that is making getting in impossible, not really the show itself.

    I guess the question is, how many people who have tickets to this show are actually willing to sell them? Is only being able to sell them at face value forcing people to just suck it up and go to the show rather than using them to make a profit?

    If these were available on StubHub, I would not be surprised in the least to see them listing for as much as MSG. Sure, the venue doesn't have the prestige of MSG (and Baltimore isn't NYC), but Baltimore is way easier to get to and stay in than NYC from places like Boston and Manchester. Sure, there's the Canadian shows, but flying into Baltimore is still way cheaper than Toronto or Quebec. And then, it's on a Saturday? Everyone who missed out in the lottery/VF Sale/General Public sale would be buying on StubHub. There'd be a handful of seats left at astronomical prices.
    I think the theory is not that more fans would be selling if they could sell above face, but that in an initial sale for freely transferable Baltimore tickets more brokers would have snapped up tickets for resale. Which is why, as sympathetic as I am to people who are frustrated by their inability to pay a scalper for tickets to this show, I believe that overall it's a better system. 

    I agree. I think we're not seeing a lot because the demand is still so high - tickets are snatched up as soon as they're listed, and there aren't many people looking to sell, because actual fans got the tickets. It's no different than if tickets were on StubHub, but were sold out. People were able to skip the middle man of StubHub/scalpers.
    I sure hope it's fans getting most of these.  There still are some broker sites listing tix.
  • ritg19
    ritg19 Posts: 118
    Balt tix just came up.  BofA text code is ridiculous...  lost them.   argg!
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  • NewfieintheUSA
    NewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,416
    just submitted the first listing
  • GetRight13
    GetRight13 NY Posts: 588
    Another Baltimore up and gone.... Lost during check out again
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  • PldgMyGrievance
    PldgMyGrievance Posts: 279
    ritg19 said:
    Balt tix just came up.  BofA text code is ridiculous...  lost them.   argg!
    I've still got the "Sit tight..." message
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  • BagCzech
    BagCzech Posts: 478
    FML
  • GetRight13
    GetRight13 NY Posts: 588
    edited February 2020
    ritg19 said:
    Balt tix just came up.  BofA text code is ridiculous...  lost them.   argg!
    Yea I got text code too... I know I lost as soon as I saw that... It's lame
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  • lfitzpatrick9
    lfitzpatrick9 NJ Posts: 396
    Be careful anyone selling MSG shows on twitter and Facebook. I’ve now caught three people and called their bluff. I won’t go through with a deal unless I verify with Ticketmaster their order number and called to verify and every single one was fake. Ticketmaster was like yeah our numbers would never start with a 9. Just be careful
  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    afgpj said:
    mpedone said:
    tdawe said:
    mpedone said:
    Saltzy23 said:
    droptheleash9 said:
    Is it safe to say that the Baltimore show is the hardest ticket to get in quite some time? I'm talking normal shows, not exclusive one-offs like the Apollo theater gig.
    It's 'artificially' tough though.

    The Apollo and Borgata are/were impossible because the venues were so small.

    This is impossible because you can't buy any of the 14,000 seats anywhere, or even transfer them to someone else.

    If there was a StubHub listing for this show it would what, probably a $250-$300 ticket just to get in roughly?

    Expensive and hard to get no doubt, but it's this overall system that is making getting in impossible, not really the show itself.

    I guess the question is, how many people who have tickets to this show are actually willing to sell them? Is only being able to sell them at face value forcing people to just suck it up and go to the show rather than using them to make a profit?

    If these were available on StubHub, I would not be surprised in the least to see them listing for as much as MSG. Sure, the venue doesn't have the prestige of MSG (and Baltimore isn't NYC), but Baltimore is way easier to get to and stay in than NYC from places like Boston and Manchester. Sure, there's the Canadian shows, but flying into Baltimore is still way cheaper than Toronto or Quebec. And then, it's on a Saturday? Everyone who missed out in the lottery/VF Sale/General Public sale would be buying on StubHub. There'd be a handful of seats left at astronomical prices.
    I think the theory is not that more fans would be selling if they could sell above face, but that in an initial sale for freely transferable Baltimore tickets more brokers would have snapped up tickets for resale. Which is why, as sympathetic as I am to people who are frustrated by their inability to pay a scalper for tickets to this show, I believe that overall it's a better system. 

    I agree. I think we're not seeing a lot because the demand is still so high - tickets are snatched up as soon as they're listed, and there aren't many people looking to sell, because actual fans got the tickets. It's no different than if tickets were on StubHub, but were sold out. People were able to skip the middle man of StubHub/scalpers.
    I sure hope it's fans getting most of these.  There still are some broker sites listing tix.
    Really not a lot though.
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  • duffmann
    duffmann PHILLY Posts: 477
    PldgMyGrievance said:
    ritg19 said:
    Balt tix just came up.  BofA text code is ridiculous...  lost them.   argg!
    I've still got the "Sit tight..." message
    Me too, that means we struck out.....
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  • ritg19
    ritg19 Posts: 118
    Is it only BofA?  Any other credit cards requiring this?
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  • eddievedderspants
    eddievedderspants Posts: 236
    Another pair of BA gone.

    It always makes me click twice on the delivery method selection before being able to choose payment method.  Is that a Chrome issue? I feel like that extra click is costing me precious time!
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  • GetRight13
    GetRight13 NY Posts: 588
    ritg19 said:
    Is it only BofA?  Any other credit cards requiring this?
    I don't have BofA and I still get the text verification 
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