Bloomberg for President

pjl44 said:

cincybearcat said:

pjl44 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

While we're on it - I cannot stand people who think "successful" business person = excellent public servant. So fucking stupid.

Yes, 100%. Being able to successfully operate within a set of rules is not the same as being able to fairly set and administer the rules.

I think being a success at something is a good thing though.  So a successful business person has a good shot at being a successful politician in my mind.  Not guaranteed for sure.

Just look at someone like Kobe.  Successful basketball player and his drive and commitment led to a successful after bball career, all too short.

Yeah, that's true. I just balk at how comparable running a business is to running government. 

Yeah I hate that comparison.  While there are some correlations certainly, a business exists to maximize shareholder value, at its core.  That's not the role of gov't.  It is there to provide some semblance of freedom and security for all of its people.  That's fundamentally different.  Running a gov't like a business leads to all sorts of bad decisions that would hurt the most vulnerable in our society, the ones that need gov't the most.  

mrussel1 said:

pjl44 said:

cincybearcat said:

pjl44 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

While we're on it - I cannot stand people who think "successful" business person = excellent public servant. So fucking stupid.

Yes, 100%. Being able to successfully operate within a set of rules is not the same as being able to fairly set and administer the rules.

I think being a success at something is a good thing though.  So a successful business person has a good shot at being a successful politician in my mind.  Not guaranteed for sure.

Just look at someone like Kobe.  Successful basketball player and his drive and commitment led to a successful after bball career, all too short.

Yeah, that's true. I just balk at how comparable running a business is to running government. 

Yeah I hate that comparison.  While there are some correlations certainly, a business exists to maximize shareholder value, at its core.  That's not the role of gov't.  It is there to provide some semblance of freedom and security for all of its people.  That's fundamentally different.  Running a gov't like a business leads to all sorts of bad decisions that would hurt the most vulnerable in our society, the ones that need gov't the most.  

Bingo.

He's no where near the top of my list, but this is good so so good:

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1230174235471089666?s=20

mrussel1 said:

I certainly like Biden more than Bloomberg, but I wonder how much of that is out of context.  I am just suspicious of clips in general.  For example on the Obamacare one, I wonder if the last line was really "It's a disgrace.".  Maybe it was "It's a disgrace that we still have 20 million people without insurance in this country".  In that context, I'd probably agree with him.  

Very true. Also, cannot stand how much Biden is trying to coattail Obama through all of this. But with all of that said, I'll take it and enjoy it.

1ThoughtKnown said:

mcgruff10 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

cincybearcat said:

dudeman said:

Michael Bloomberg is Donald Trump, just on a different side of the aisle. Vanity, narcissism and the desire to be dictator are far more similar than different between the two. 

Minus the sexual assaults, paying off strippers and adding in building your own worth of course

Equal the overt racism. Bloomberg was all in on racial profiling in New York. Some of his comments are downright awful about African Americans and Hispanics. 

Honest question from a foreigner, why do Americans need rich people or celebrities (or both) to be President? Wouldn’t someone intelligent and educated be a better choice to represent you on the world stage?

Quite frankly, the election of Trump has most of the world questioning your entire education system among other things. Not a hater... just an interested observer. 

I don't think it is possible to run for president and not be rich.  
I have no clue how the election of Trump is a reflection of our education system.  And I don't know a single person who give's a shit about what other countries think of us.  Not a hater...just a casual observation.  

Sorry the truth hurts so much 

What about the 46 MM people who didn't vote for Trump, the majority.  Did the education system fail them too?

1ThoughtKnown said:

mrussel1 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mcgruff10 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

cincybearcat said:

dudeman said:

Michael Bloomberg is Donald Trump, just on a different side of the aisle. Vanity, narcissism and the desire to be dictator are far more similar than different between the two. 

Minus the sexual assaults, paying off strippers and adding in building your own worth of course

Equal the overt racism. Bloomberg was all in on racial profiling in New York. Some of his comments are downright awful about African Americans and Hispanics. 

Honest question from a foreigner, why do Americans need rich people or celebrities (or both) to be President? Wouldn’t someone intelligent and educated be a better choice to represent you on the world stage?

Quite frankly, the election of Trump has most of the world questioning your entire education system among other things. Not a hater... just an interested observer. 

I don't think it is possible to run for president and not be rich.  
I have no clue how the election of Trump is a reflection of our education system.  And I don't know a single person who give's a shit about what other countries think of us.  Not a hater...just a casual observation.  

Sorry the truth hurts so much 

What about the 46 MM people who didn't vote for Trump, the majority.  Did the education system fail them too?

Hey man, I was just telling you the world perceptron. Don’t shoot the messenger

You elected Nepotism von Blackface. Yeeeeesh.

pjl44 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mrussel1 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mcgruff10 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

cincybearcat said:

dudeman said:

Michael Bloomberg is Donald Trump, just on a different side of the aisle. Vanity, narcissism and the desire to be dictator are far more similar than different between the two. 

Minus the sexual assaults, paying off strippers and adding in building your own worth of course

Equal the overt racism. Bloomberg was all in on racial profiling in New York. Some of his comments are downright awful about African Americans and Hispanics. 

Honest question from a foreigner, why do Americans need rich people or celebrities (or both) to be President? Wouldn’t someone intelligent and educated be a better choice to represent you on the world stage?

Quite frankly, the election of Trump has most of the world questioning your entire education system among other things. Not a hater... just an interested observer. 

I don't think it is possible to run for president and not be rich.  
I have no clue how the election of Trump is a reflection of our education system.  And I don't know a single person who give's a shit about what other countries think of us.  Not a hater...just a casual observation.  

Sorry the truth hurts so much 

What about the 46 MM people who didn't vote for Trump, the majority.  Did the education system fail them too?

Hey man, I was just telling you the world perceptron. Don’t shoot the messenger

You elected Nepotism von Blackface. Yeeeeesh.

We did. It’s embarrassing. I’m questioning our own education system to be quite honest. Not sure if the world is though 

pjl44 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

pjl44 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mrussel1 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mcgruff10 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

cincybearcat said:

dudeman said:

Michael Bloomberg is Donald Trump, just on a different side of the aisle. Vanity, narcissism and the desire to be dictator are far more similar than different between the two. 

Minus the sexual assaults, paying off strippers and adding in building your own worth of course

Equal the overt racism. Bloomberg was all in on racial profiling in New York. Some of his comments are downright awful about African Americans and Hispanics. 

Honest question from a foreigner, why do Americans need rich people or celebrities (or both) to be President? Wouldn’t someone intelligent and educated be a better choice to represent you on the world stage?

Quite frankly, the election of Trump has most of the world questioning your entire education system among other things. Not a hater... just an interested observer. 

I don't think it is possible to run for president and not be rich.  
I have no clue how the election of Trump is a reflection of our education system.  And I don't know a single person who give's a shit about what other countries think of us.  Not a hater...just a casual observation.  

Sorry the truth hurts so much 

What about the 46 MM people who didn't vote for Trump, the majority.  Did the education system fail them too?

Hey man, I was just telling you the world perceptron. Don’t shoot the messenger

You elected Nepotism von Blackface. Yeeeeesh.

We did. It’s embarrassing. I’m questioning our own education system to be quite honest. Not sure if the world is though 

I would hesitate to speak for your province, much less the world

I’it’s a free country here. I don’t have to hesitate. Maybe you like being muzzled? 

Jason P said:

Bezos is next, right?  Maybe not this cycle, but Bezos is coming for president.  The new order is in motion.

Sure, why not?  It's not like career politicians have done a bang up job for the last 50 years.  

mrussel1 said:

Jason P said:

Bezos is next, right?  Maybe not this cycle, but Bezos is coming for president.  The new order is in motion.

Sure, why not?  It's not like career politicians have done a bang up job for the last 50 years.  

Or, ya know, more people across the spectrum could run for office. Which we're definitely seeing more of lately (thank god). Oh, and if everybody gave a shit about their state & local elections as much as one race that comes around only every 4 years. Don't know if people know this, but there's an election every year. In some (most) places two.