Bloomberg for President

pjl44

Jearlpam0925 said:

pjl44 said:

cincybearcat said:

pjl44 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

While we're on it - I cannot stand people who think "successful" business person = excellent public servant. So fucking stupid.

Yes, 100%. Being able to successfully operate within a set of rules is not the same as being able to fairly set and administer the rules.

I think being a success at something is a good thing though.  So a successful business person has a good shot at being a successful politician in my mind.  Not guaranteed for sure.

Just look at someone like Kobe.  Successful basketball player and his drive and commitment led to a successful after bball career, all too short.

Yeah, that's true. I just balk at how comparable running a business is to running government. 

There's a difference between a politician and a public servant to me. They're all public servants, and some - or most - are politicians. I want a public servant, not a politician. Completely understand people wanting "successful" people being decision makers. If that's the case, then make it the world's leading scientists who are also "successful", and not just the people trying to turn a profit. I'd very much rather have them in charge.

I'm not any more or less predisposed to voting for a businessperson or scientist or any background as long as they don't have weird shit in their past. It's all about how well their platform aligns with my ideals and, to some extent, how they carry themselves and their decision-making process.

mrussel1

pjl44 said:

cincybearcat said:

pjl44 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

While we're on it - I cannot stand people who think "successful" business person = excellent public servant. So fucking stupid.

Yes, 100%. Being able to successfully operate within a set of rules is not the same as being able to fairly set and administer the rules.

I think being a success at something is a good thing though.  So a successful business person has a good shot at being a successful politician in my mind.  Not guaranteed for sure.

Just look at someone like Kobe.  Successful basketball player and his drive and commitment led to a successful after bball career, all too short.

Yeah, that's true. I just balk at how comparable running a business is to running government. 

Yeah I hate that comparison.  While there are some correlations certainly, a business exists to maximize shareholder value, at its core.  That's not the role of gov't.  It is there to provide some semblance of freedom and security for all of its people.  That's fundamentally different.  Running a gov't like a business leads to all sorts of bad decisions that would hurt the most vulnerable in our society, the ones that need gov't the most.  

OnWis97

VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!

It's Trump.  and VBNMW has been by stance.  But if the Democratic party hands this thing to Bloomberg, I'm out.  The following could cause me to vote 3rd (or not at all):

• Bloomberg.  We already have a racist rich guy who bought his way in.  Yeah, Bloomberg would pick better justices, I suppose, but the Dems are now* contributing to the very problem the GOP created and I question whether this would even help save us from being a kingdom.  No, if they Dems hand this over to Bloomberg because they're scared of a progressive getting in, they need to get the message that they are out of touch...and they need to lose all 50 states.  The recover, if possible, will be difficult and long, but the Dems need to learn the lesson from the one functioning party in this country.  They didn't hijack Trump and they were rewarded handsomely.
• Tulsi as Bernie's running mate. I'm already nervous about Bernie's populism...if he picks Tulski, I just can't do it.

*At least I think they are...looks like they're making him this year's Hillary because they're scared of Bernie.

Jearlpam0925

mrussel1 said:

pjl44 said:

cincybearcat said:

pjl44 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

While we're on it - I cannot stand people who think "successful" business person = excellent public servant. So fucking stupid.

Yes, 100%. Being able to successfully operate within a set of rules is not the same as being able to fairly set and administer the rules.

I think being a success at something is a good thing though.  So a successful business person has a good shot at being a successful politician in my mind.  Not guaranteed for sure.

Just look at someone like Kobe.  Successful basketball player and his drive and commitment led to a successful after bball career, all too short.

Yeah, that's true. I just balk at how comparable running a business is to running government. 

Yeah I hate that comparison.  While there are some correlations certainly, a business exists to maximize shareholder value, at its core.  That's not the role of gov't.  It is there to provide some semblance of freedom and security for all of its people.  That's fundamentally different.  Running a gov't like a business leads to all sorts of bad decisions that would hurt the most vulnerable in our society, the ones that need gov't the most.  

Bingo.

RoleModelsinBlood31

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/michael-bloomberg-2020-transgender-comments-video

Transgender: “it”
”some guy in a dress who enters locker rooms”

Jearlpam0925

He's no where near the top of my list, but this is good so so good:

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1230174235471089666?s=20

mrussel1

I certainly like Biden more than Bloomberg, but I wonder how much of that is out of context.  I am just suspicious of clips in general.  For example on the Obamacare one, I wonder if the last line was really "It's a disgrace.".  Maybe it was "It's a disgrace that we still have 20 million people without insurance in this country".  In that context, I'd probably agree with him.  

Jearlpam0925

mrussel1 said:

I certainly like Biden more than Bloomberg, but I wonder how much of that is out of context.  I am just suspicious of clips in general.  For example on the Obamacare one, I wonder if the last line was really "It's a disgrace.".  Maybe it was "It's a disgrace that we still have 20 million people without insurance in this country".  In that context, I'd probably agree with him.  

Very true. Also, cannot stand how much Biden is trying to coattail Obama through all of this. But with all of that said, I'll take it and enjoy it.

1ThoughtKnown

mcgruff10 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

cincybearcat said:

dudeman said:

Michael Bloomberg is Donald Trump, just on a different side of the aisle. Vanity, narcissism and the desire to be dictator are far more similar than different between the two. 

Minus the sexual assaults, paying off strippers and adding in building your own worth of course

Equal the overt racism. Bloomberg was all in on racial profiling in New York. Some of his comments are downright awful about African Americans and Hispanics. 

Honest question from a foreigner, why do Americans need rich people or celebrities (or both) to be President? Wouldn’t someone intelligent and educated be a better choice to represent you on the world stage?

Quite frankly, the election of Trump has most of the world questioning your entire education system among other things. Not a hater... just an interested observer. 

I don't think it is possible to run for president and not be rich.  
I have no clue how the election of Trump is a reflection of our education system.  And I don't know a single person who give's a shit about what other countries think of us.  Not a hater...just a casual observation.  

Sorry the truth hurts so much. Point was the government has not provided resources for the education system which results in the mob mentality often shown in Simpsons episodes. 

mrussel1

1ThoughtKnown said:

mcgruff10 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

cincybearcat said:

dudeman said:

Michael Bloomberg is Donald Trump, just on a different side of the aisle. Vanity, narcissism and the desire to be dictator are far more similar than different between the two. 

Minus the sexual assaults, paying off strippers and adding in building your own worth of course

Equal the overt racism. Bloomberg was all in on racial profiling in New York. Some of his comments are downright awful about African Americans and Hispanics. 

Honest question from a foreigner, why do Americans need rich people or celebrities (or both) to be President? Wouldn’t someone intelligent and educated be a better choice to represent you on the world stage?

Quite frankly, the election of Trump has most of the world questioning your entire education system among other things. Not a hater... just an interested observer. 

I don't think it is possible to run for president and not be rich.  
I have no clue how the election of Trump is a reflection of our education system.  And I don't know a single person who give's a shit about what other countries think of us.  Not a hater...just a casual observation.  

Sorry the truth hurts so much 

What about the 46 MM people who didn't vote for Trump, the majority.  Did the education system fail them too?

1ThoughtKnown

mrussel1 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mcgruff10 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

cincybearcat said:

dudeman said:

Michael Bloomberg is Donald Trump, just on a different side of the aisle. Vanity, narcissism and the desire to be dictator are far more similar than different between the two. 

Minus the sexual assaults, paying off strippers and adding in building your own worth of course

Equal the overt racism. Bloomberg was all in on racial profiling in New York. Some of his comments are downright awful about African Americans and Hispanics. 

Honest question from a foreigner, why do Americans need rich people or celebrities (or both) to be President? Wouldn’t someone intelligent and educated be a better choice to represent you on the world stage?

Quite frankly, the election of Trump has most of the world questioning your entire education system among other things. Not a hater... just an interested observer. 

I don't think it is possible to run for president and not be rich.  
I have no clue how the election of Trump is a reflection of our education system.  And I don't know a single person who give's a shit about what other countries think of us.  Not a hater...just a casual observation.  

Sorry the truth hurts so much 

What about the 46 MM people who didn't vote for Trump, the majority.  Did the education system fail them too?

Hey man, I was just telling you the world perception. Don’t shoot the messenger

pjl44

1ThoughtKnown said:

mrussel1 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mcgruff10 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

cincybearcat said:

dudeman said:

Michael Bloomberg is Donald Trump, just on a different side of the aisle. Vanity, narcissism and the desire to be dictator are far more similar than different between the two. 

Minus the sexual assaults, paying off strippers and adding in building your own worth of course

Equal the overt racism. Bloomberg was all in on racial profiling in New York. Some of his comments are downright awful about African Americans and Hispanics. 

Honest question from a foreigner, why do Americans need rich people or celebrities (or both) to be President? Wouldn’t someone intelligent and educated be a better choice to represent you on the world stage?

Quite frankly, the election of Trump has most of the world questioning your entire education system among other things. Not a hater... just an interested observer. 

I don't think it is possible to run for president and not be rich.  
I have no clue how the election of Trump is a reflection of our education system.  And I don't know a single person who give's a shit about what other countries think of us.  Not a hater...just a casual observation.  

Sorry the truth hurts so much 

What about the 46 MM people who didn't vote for Trump, the majority.  Did the education system fail them too?

Hey man, I was just telling you the world perceptron. Don’t shoot the messenger

You elected Nepotism von Blackface. Yeeeeesh.

1ThoughtKnown

Anyways, I apologize for offending anyone. Was not intentional. I apologize for the generalization, did not mean to infer all Americans are uneducated. Not my country and all countries have their own issues.  Our Pm is no genius either. 

But a leader does not have to be rich. 

1ThoughtKnown

pjl44 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mrussel1 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mcgruff10 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

cincybearcat said:

dudeman said:

Michael Bloomberg is Donald Trump, just on a different side of the aisle. Vanity, narcissism and the desire to be dictator are far more similar than different between the two. 

Minus the sexual assaults, paying off strippers and adding in building your own worth of course

Equal the overt racism. Bloomberg was all in on racial profiling in New York. Some of his comments are downright awful about African Americans and Hispanics. 

Honest question from a foreigner, why do Americans need rich people or celebrities (or both) to be President? Wouldn’t someone intelligent and educated be a better choice to represent you on the world stage?

Quite frankly, the election of Trump has most of the world questioning your entire education system among other things. Not a hater... just an interested observer. 

I don't think it is possible to run for president and not be rich.  
I have no clue how the election of Trump is a reflection of our education system.  And I don't know a single person who give's a shit about what other countries think of us.  Not a hater...just a casual observation.  

Sorry the truth hurts so much 

What about the 46 MM people who didn't vote for Trump, the majority.  Did the education system fail them too?

Hey man, I was just telling you the world perceptron. Don’t shoot the messenger

You elected Nepotism von Blackface. Yeeeeesh.

We did. It’s embarrassing. I’m questioning our own education system to be quite honest. Not sure if the world is though 

pjl44

1ThoughtKnown said:

pjl44 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mrussel1 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mcgruff10 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

cincybearcat said:

dudeman said:

Michael Bloomberg is Donald Trump, just on a different side of the aisle. Vanity, narcissism and the desire to be dictator are far more similar than different between the two. 

Minus the sexual assaults, paying off strippers and adding in building your own worth of course

Equal the overt racism. Bloomberg was all in on racial profiling in New York. Some of his comments are downright awful about African Americans and Hispanics. 

Honest question from a foreigner, why do Americans need rich people or celebrities (or both) to be President? Wouldn’t someone intelligent and educated be a better choice to represent you on the world stage?

Quite frankly, the election of Trump has most of the world questioning your entire education system among other things. Not a hater... just an interested observer. 

I don't think it is possible to run for president and not be rich.  
I have no clue how the election of Trump is a reflection of our education system.  And I don't know a single person who give's a shit about what other countries think of us.  Not a hater...just a casual observation.  

Sorry the truth hurts so much 

What about the 46 MM people who didn't vote for Trump, the majority.  Did the education system fail them too?

Hey man, I was just telling you the world perceptron. Don’t shoot the messenger

You elected Nepotism von Blackface. Yeeeeesh.

We did. It’s embarrassing. I’m questioning our own education system to be quite honest. Not sure if the world is though 

I would hesitate to speak for your province, much less the world

1ThoughtKnown

pjl44 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

pjl44 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mrussel1 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

mcgruff10 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

cincybearcat said:

dudeman said:

Michael Bloomberg is Donald Trump, just on a different side of the aisle. Vanity, narcissism and the desire to be dictator are far more similar than different between the two. 

Minus the sexual assaults, paying off strippers and adding in building your own worth of course

Equal the overt racism. Bloomberg was all in on racial profiling in New York. Some of his comments are downright awful about African Americans and Hispanics. 

Honest question from a foreigner, why do Americans need rich people or celebrities (or both) to be President? Wouldn’t someone intelligent and educated be a better choice to represent you on the world stage?

Quite frankly, the election of Trump has most of the world questioning your entire education system among other things. Not a hater... just an interested observer. 

I don't think it is possible to run for president and not be rich.  
I have no clue how the election of Trump is a reflection of our education system.  And I don't know a single person who give's a shit about what other countries think of us.  Not a hater...just a casual observation.  

Sorry the truth hurts so much 

What about the 46 MM people who didn't vote for Trump, the majority.  Did the education system fail them too?

Hey man, I was just telling you the world perceptron. Don’t shoot the messenger

You elected Nepotism von Blackface. Yeeeeesh.

We did. It’s embarrassing. I’m questioning our own education system to be quite honest. Not sure if the world is though 

I would hesitate to speak for your province, much less the world

I’it’s a free country here. I don’t have to hesitate. Maybe you like being muzzled? 

Jason P

Bezos is next, right?  Maybe not this cycle, but Bezos is coming for president.  The new order is in motion.

mrussel1

Jason P said:

Bezos is next, right?  Maybe not this cycle, but Bezos is coming for president.  The new order is in motion.

Sure, why not?  It's not like career politicians have done a bang up job for the last 50 years.  

HesCalledDyer

BILLIONAIRES DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK ABOUT US!!!

Jearlpam0925

mrussel1 said:

Jason P said:

Bezos is next, right?  Maybe not this cycle, but Bezos is coming for president.  The new order is in motion.

Sure, why not?  It's not like career politicians have done a bang up job for the last 50 years.  

Or, ya know, more people across the spectrum could run for office. Which we're definitely seeing more of lately (thank god). Oh, and if everybody gave a shit about their state & local elections as much as one race that comes around only every 4 years. Don't know if people know this, but there's an election every year. In some (most) places two.