The Democratic Presidential Debates
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15 bucks a pop. No lemon or cucumber included."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Hahahaha dying on the Joe Biden isn't a creep despite a lot of video evidence hill again are we?mrussel1 said:
And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed. And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint. So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown. Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel. Then you can step in and play dad for them.ecdanc said:
Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.htmlmrussel1 said:
I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips. I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes. Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either. My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one. Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross? If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened. How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek? We don't. The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events? How very paternalistic of you.Spiritual_Chaos said:Lerxst1992 said:Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.
M- I was referring to Joe kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.
Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
And to your point, what does 'full on' mean? It's a photo. Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that. It's not like they are frenching.
Look - it won;t matter in the general election as he is less creepy than Trump...but that creepiness sure bothers me enough to drop him to .... maybe 4th on my list? But I'm not the Dem primary target audience so we will see how much my opinion and those like me actually matters anyhow
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And you're still dying on the vine of being able to ascribe motives to people and choose what's appropriate for woman. So neither of us have moved evidently.cincybearcat said:
Hahahaha dying on the Joe Biden isn't a creep despite a lot of video evidence hill again are we?mrussel1 said:
And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed. And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint. So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown. Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel. Then you can step in and play dad for them.ecdanc said:
Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.htmlmrussel1 said:
I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips. I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes. Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either. My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one. Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross? If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened. How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek? We don't. The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events? How very paternalistic of you.Spiritual_Chaos said:Lerxst1992 said:Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.
M- I was referring to Joe kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.
Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
And to your point, what does 'full on' mean? It's a photo. Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that. It's not like they are frenching.
Look - it won;t matter in the general election as he is less creepy than Trump...but that creepiness sure bothers me enough to drop him to .... maybe 4th on my list? But I'm not the Dem primary target audience so we will see how much my opinion and those like me actually matters anyhow0 -
This absolute all-in defending of Joe Bidens kissing-party is quite something.mrussel1 said:
And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed. And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint. So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown. Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel. Then you can step in and play dad for them.ecdanc said:
Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.htmlmrussel1 said:
I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips. I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes. Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either. My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one. Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross? If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened. How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek? We don't. The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events? How very paternalistic of you.Spiritual_Chaos said:Lerxst1992 said:Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.
M- I was referring to Joe kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.
Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
And to your point, what does 'full on' mean? It's a photo. Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that. It's not like they are frenching.
And going after "twitter" in posts all the time, makes you sound the age of Joe Biden.
Haha.
Just chill, here is Bernie with a cute bird.
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Yep, that little birdie in 2016 propelled him to only a 10 point national loss. And Twitter is a cesspool. You know this.Spiritual_Chaos said:
This absolute all-in defending of Joe Bidens kissing-party is quite something.mrussel1 said:
And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed. And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint. So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown. Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel. Then you can step in and play dad for them.ecdanc said:
Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.htmlmrussel1 said:
I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips. I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes. Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either. My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one. Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross? If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened. How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek? We don't. The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events? How very paternalistic of you.Spiritual_Chaos said:Lerxst1992 said:Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.
M- I was referring to Joe kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.
Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
And to your point, what does 'full on' mean? It's a photo. Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that. It's not like they are frenching.
And going after "twitter" in posts all the time, makes you sound the age of Joe Biden.
Haha.
Just chill, here is Bernie with a cute bird.
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Because we all know women never (wisely) refrain from pointing out that powerful men did something inappropriatemrussel1 said:
And you're still dying on the vine of being able to ascribe motives to people and choose what's appropriate for woman. So neither of us have moved evidently.cincybearcat said:
Hahahaha dying on the Joe Biden isn't a creep despite a lot of video evidence hill again are we?mrussel1 said:
And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed. And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint. So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown. Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel. Then you can step in and play dad for them.ecdanc said:
Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.htmlmrussel1 said:
I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips. I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes. Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either. My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one. Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross? If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened. How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek? We don't. The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events? How very paternalistic of you.Spiritual_Chaos said:Lerxst1992 said:Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.
M- I was referring to Joe kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.
Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
And to your point, what does 'full on' mean? It's a photo. Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that. It's not like they are frenching.
Look - it won;t matter in the general election as he is less creepy than Trump...but that creepiness sure bothers me enough to drop him to .... maybe 4th on my list? But I'm not the Dem primary target audience so we will see how much my opinion and those like me actually matters anyhow0 -
Ah... so that young lady in the cap and gown is too scared to report her 'assault'. Fascinating little argument you've constructed. If they report it, ah ha! If they don't, yeah it's how they feel but they are just weak women. You can't lose! The reporting and non-reporting both make you right. Genius.ecdanc said:
Because we all know women never (wisely) refrain from pointing out that powerful men did something inappropriatemrussel1 said:
And you're still dying on the vine of being able to ascribe motives to people and choose what's appropriate for woman. So neither of us have moved evidently.cincybearcat said:
Hahahaha dying on the Joe Biden isn't a creep despite a lot of video evidence hill again are we?mrussel1 said:
And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed. And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint. So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown. Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel. Then you can step in and play dad for them.ecdanc said:
Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.htmlmrussel1 said:
I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips. I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes. Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either. My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one. Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross? If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened. How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek? We don't. The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events? How very paternalistic of you.Spiritual_Chaos said:Lerxst1992 said:Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.
M- I was referring to Joe kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.
Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
And to your point, what does 'full on' mean? It's a photo. Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that. It's not like they are frenching.
Look - it won;t matter in the general election as he is less creepy than Trump...but that creepiness sure bothers me enough to drop him to .... maybe 4th on my list? But I'm not the Dem primary target audience so we will see how much my opinion and those like me actually matters anyhow0 -
That's what they say. When I drink, which is getting more rare these days, I drink rye.mrussel1 said:
I've rarely been drunk on scotch, it's waaaaay too expensive. But I love it, best for sipping with a drop or two of water and nothing else. I like to keep multiple bottles behind the bar, but it takes me years to finish them and they are fun to share with guests.
As an aside, I find the best for me now is to eat a moderate amount of edibles before heading out for the night. It really keeps the drinking down so as to avoid a hangover.0 -
Edible and 3 drinks over a few hours is perfect for me. No hangover whatsoever.dignin said:
That's what they say. When I drink, which is getting more rare these days, I drink rye.mrussel1 said:
I've rarely been drunk on scotch, it's waaaaay too expensive. But I love it, best for sipping with a drop or two of water and nothing else. I like to keep multiple bottles behind the bar, but it takes me years to finish them and they are fun to share with guests.
As an aside, I find the best for me now is to eat a moderate amount of edibles before heading out for the night. It really keeps the drinking down so as to avoid a hangover.0 -
GTFO with the "weak women" nonsense. Even you aren't so naive not to recognize the disincentive for women to make public statements about powerful men's behavior.mrussel1 said:
Ah... so that young lady in the cap and gown is too scared to report her 'assault'. Fascinating little argument you've constructed. If they report it, ah ha! If they don't, yeah it's how they feel but they are just weak women. You can't lose! The reporting and non-reporting both make you right. Genius.ecdanc said:
Because we all know women never (wisely) refrain from pointing out that powerful men did something inappropriatemrussel1 said:
And you're still dying on the vine of being able to ascribe motives to people and choose what's appropriate for woman. So neither of us have moved evidently.cincybearcat said:
Hahahaha dying on the Joe Biden isn't a creep despite a lot of video evidence hill again are we?mrussel1 said:
And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed. And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint. So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown. Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel. Then you can step in and play dad for them.ecdanc said:
Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.htmlmrussel1 said:
I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips. I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes. Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either. My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one. Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross? If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened. How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek? We don't. The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events? How very paternalistic of you.Spiritual_Chaos said:Lerxst1992 said:Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.
M- I was referring to Joe kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.
Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
And to your point, what does 'full on' mean? It's a photo. Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that. It's not like they are frenching.
Look - it won;t matter in the general election as he is less creepy than Trump...but that creepiness sure bothers me enough to drop him to .... maybe 4th on my list? But I'm not the Dem primary target audience so we will see how much my opinion and those like me actually matters anyhow0 -
You are allowed to keep watching Biden kissing-photos if you wish. Up to you.mrussel1 said:
Ah... so that young lady in the cap and gown is too scared to report her 'assault'. Fascinating little argument you've constructed. If they report it, ah ha! If they don't, yeah it's how they feel but they are just weak women. You can't lose! The reporting and non-reporting both make you right. Genius.ecdanc said:
Because we all know women never (wisely) refrain from pointing out that powerful men did something inappropriatemrussel1 said:
And you're still dying on the vine of being able to ascribe motives to people and choose what's appropriate for woman. So neither of us have moved evidently.cincybearcat said:
Hahahaha dying on the Joe Biden isn't a creep despite a lot of video evidence hill again are we?mrussel1 said:
And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed. And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint. So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown. Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel. Then you can step in and play dad for them.ecdanc said:
Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.htmlmrussel1 said:
I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips. I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes. Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either. My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one. Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross? If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened. How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek? We don't. The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events? How very paternalistic of you.Spiritual_Chaos said:Lerxst1992 said:Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.
M- I was referring to Joe kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.
Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
And to your point, what does 'full on' mean? It's a photo. Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that. It's not like they are frenching.
Look - it won;t matter in the general election as he is less creepy than Trump...but that creepiness sure bothers me enough to drop him to .... maybe 4th on my list? But I'm not the Dem primary target audience so we will see how much my opinion and those like me actually matters anyhow
But I feel less cringe watching Bernie with a bird, than Biden with a bird. If you catch my drift.
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Yup! You = creep & Me = creep hater j/kmrussel1 said:
And you're still dying on the vine of being able to ascribe motives to people and choose what's appropriate for woman. So neither of us have moved evidently.cincybearcat said:
Hahahaha dying on the Joe Biden isn't a creep despite a lot of video evidence hill again are we?mrussel1 said:
And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed. And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint. So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown. Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel. Then you can step in and play dad for them.ecdanc said:
Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.htmlmrussel1 said:
I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips. I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes. Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either. My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one. Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross? If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened. How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek? We don't. The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events? How very paternalistic of you.Spiritual_Chaos said:Lerxst1992 said:Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.
M- I was referring to Joe kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.
Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
And to your point, what does 'full on' mean? It's a photo. Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that. It's not like they are frenching.
Look - it won;t matter in the general election as he is less creepy than Trump...but that creepiness sure bothers me enough to drop him to .... maybe 4th on my list? But I'm not the Dem primary target audience so we will see how much my opinion and those like me actually matters anyhow
hippiemom = goodness0 -
Still don't like his policies, no matter how many birds, fish, or Ligers flock to him.Spiritual_Chaos said:
You are allowed to keep watching Biden kissing-photos if you wish. Up to you.mrussel1 said:
Ah... so that young lady in the cap and gown is too scared to report her 'assault'. Fascinating little argument you've constructed. If they report it, ah ha! If they don't, yeah it's how they feel but they are just weak women. You can't lose! The reporting and non-reporting both make you right. Genius.ecdanc said:
Because we all know women never (wisely) refrain from pointing out that powerful men did something inappropriatemrussel1 said:
And you're still dying on the vine of being able to ascribe motives to people and choose what's appropriate for woman. So neither of us have moved evidently.cincybearcat said:
Hahahaha dying on the Joe Biden isn't a creep despite a lot of video evidence hill again are we?mrussel1 said:
And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed. And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint. So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown. Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel. Then you can step in and play dad for them.ecdanc said:
Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.htmlmrussel1 said:
I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips. I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes. Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either. My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one. Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross? If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened. How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek? We don't. The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events? How very paternalistic of you.Spiritual_Chaos said:Lerxst1992 said:Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.
M- I was referring to Joe kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.
Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
And to your point, what does 'full on' mean? It's a photo. Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that. It's not like they are frenching.
Look - it won;t matter in the general election as he is less creepy than Trump...but that creepiness sure bothers me enough to drop him to .... maybe 4th on my list? But I'm not the Dem primary target audience so we will see how much my opinion and those like me actually matters anyhow
But I feel less cringe watching Bernie with a bird, than Biden with a bird. If you catch my drift.0 -
Right, because in today's world, that young African American girl would have been vilified in the media and probably lost all future job opportunities if she said she was uncomfortable with the kiss. Is that your argument? I just want to be sure I'm understanding where your paternalism is originating.ecdanc said:
GTFO with the "weak women" nonsense. Even you aren't so naive not to recognize the disincentive for women to make public statements about powerful men's behavior.mrussel1 said:
Ah... so that young lady in the cap and gown is too scared to report her 'assault'. Fascinating little argument you've constructed. If they report it, ah ha! If they don't, yeah it's how they feel but they are just weak women. You can't lose! The reporting and non-reporting both make you right. Genius.ecdanc said:
Because we all know women never (wisely) refrain from pointing out that powerful men did something inappropriatemrussel1 said:
And you're still dying on the vine of being able to ascribe motives to people and choose what's appropriate for woman. So neither of us have moved evidently.cincybearcat said:
Hahahaha dying on the Joe Biden isn't a creep despite a lot of video evidence hill again are we?mrussel1 said:
And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed. And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint. So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown. Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel. Then you can step in and play dad for them.ecdanc said:
Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.htmlmrussel1 said:
I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips. I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes. Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either. My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one. Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross? If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened. How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek? We don't. The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events? How very paternalistic of you.Spiritual_Chaos said:Lerxst1992 said:Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.
M- I was referring to Joe kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.
Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
And to your point, what does 'full on' mean? It's a photo. Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that. It's not like they are frenching.
Look - it won;t matter in the general election as he is less creepy than Trump...but that creepiness sure bothers me enough to drop him to .... maybe 4th on my list? But I'm not the Dem primary target audience so we will see how much my opinion and those like me actually matters anyhow0 -
That is okey. I don't like all his politics either. As long as you would pick him over Trump.mrussel1 said:
Still don't like his policies, no matter how many birds, fish, or Ligers flock to him.Spiritual_Chaos said:
You are allowed to keep watching Biden kissing-photos if you wish. Up to you.mrussel1 said:
Ah... so that young lady in the cap and gown is too scared to report her 'assault'. Fascinating little argument you've constructed. If they report it, ah ha! If they don't, yeah it's how they feel but they are just weak women. You can't lose! The reporting and non-reporting both make you right. Genius.ecdanc said:
Because we all know women never (wisely) refrain from pointing out that powerful men did something inappropriatemrussel1 said:
And you're still dying on the vine of being able to ascribe motives to people and choose what's appropriate for woman. So neither of us have moved evidently.cincybearcat said:
Hahahaha dying on the Joe Biden isn't a creep despite a lot of video evidence hill again are we?mrussel1 said:
And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed. And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint. So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown. Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel. Then you can step in and play dad for them.ecdanc said:
Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.htmlmrussel1 said:
I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips. I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes. Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either. My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one. Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross? If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened. How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek? We don't. The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events? How very paternalistic of you.Spiritual_Chaos said:Lerxst1992 said:Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.
M- I was referring to Joe kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.
Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
And to your point, what does 'full on' mean? It's a photo. Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that. It's not like they are frenching.
Look - it won;t matter in the general election as he is less creepy than Trump...but that creepiness sure bothers me enough to drop him to .... maybe 4th on my list? But I'm not the Dem primary target audience so we will see how much my opinion and those like me actually matters anyhow
But I feel less cringe watching Bernie with a bird, than Biden with a bird. If you catch my drift."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I would. Trump sullies the office. That is more important to me. I'm a policy guy, but I value a moral center more.Spiritual_Chaos said:
That is okey. I don't like all his politics either. As long as you would pick him over Trump.mrussel1 said:
Still don't like his policies, no matter how many birds, fish, or Ligers flock to him.Spiritual_Chaos said:
You are allowed to keep watching Biden kissing-photos if you wish. Up to you.mrussel1 said:
Ah... so that young lady in the cap and gown is too scared to report her 'assault'. Fascinating little argument you've constructed. If they report it, ah ha! If they don't, yeah it's how they feel but they are just weak women. You can't lose! The reporting and non-reporting both make you right. Genius.ecdanc said:
Because we all know women never (wisely) refrain from pointing out that powerful men did something inappropriatemrussel1 said:
And you're still dying on the vine of being able to ascribe motives to people and choose what's appropriate for woman. So neither of us have moved evidently.cincybearcat said:
Hahahaha dying on the Joe Biden isn't a creep despite a lot of video evidence hill again are we?mrussel1 said:
And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed. And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint. So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown. Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel. Then you can step in and play dad for them.ecdanc said:
Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.htmlmrussel1 said:
I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips. I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes. Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either. My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one. Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross? If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened. How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek? We don't. The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events? How very paternalistic of you.Spiritual_Chaos said:Lerxst1992 said:Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.
M- I was referring to Joe kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.
Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
And to your point, what does 'full on' mean? It's a photo. Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that. It's not like they are frenching.
Look - it won;t matter in the general election as he is less creepy than Trump...but that creepiness sure bothers me enough to drop him to .... maybe 4th on my list? But I'm not the Dem primary target audience so we will see how much my opinion and those like me actually matters anyhow
But I feel less cringe watching Bernie with a bird, than Biden with a bird. If you catch my drift.0 -
I'm making no argument about the girl in that picture. Haven't said a word about her.mrussel1 said:
Right, because in today's world, that young African American girl would have been vilified in the media and probably lost all future job opportunities if she said she was uncomfortable with the kiss. Is that your argument? I just want to be sure I'm understanding where your paternalism is originating.ecdanc said:
GTFO with the "weak women" nonsense. Even you aren't so naive not to recognize the disincentive for women to make public statements about powerful men's behavior.mrussel1 said:
Ah... so that young lady in the cap and gown is too scared to report her 'assault'. Fascinating little argument you've constructed. If they report it, ah ha! If they don't, yeah it's how they feel but they are just weak women. You can't lose! The reporting and non-reporting both make you right. Genius.ecdanc said:
Because we all know women never (wisely) refrain from pointing out that powerful men did something inappropriatemrussel1 said:
And you're still dying on the vine of being able to ascribe motives to people and choose what's appropriate for woman. So neither of us have moved evidently.cincybearcat said:
Hahahaha dying on the Joe Biden isn't a creep despite a lot of video evidence hill again are we?mrussel1 said:
And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed. And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint. So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown. Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel. Then you can step in and play dad for them.ecdanc said:
Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.htmlmrussel1 said:
I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips. I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes. Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either. My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one. Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross? If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened. How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek? We don't. The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events? How very paternalistic of you.Spiritual_Chaos said:Lerxst1992 said:Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.
M- I was referring to Joe kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.
Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
And to your point, what does 'full on' mean? It's a photo. Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that. It's not like they are frenching.
Look - it won;t matter in the general election as he is less creepy than Trump...but that creepiness sure bothers me enough to drop him to .... maybe 4th on my list? But I'm not the Dem primary target audience so we will see how much my opinion and those like me actually matters anyhow0 -
Well that's what precipitated the whole discussion. That post and the one of his granddaughter.ecdanc said:
I'm making no argument about the girl in that picture. Haven't said a word about her.mrussel1 said:
Right, because in today's world, that young African American girl would have been vilified in the media and probably lost all future job opportunities if she said she was uncomfortable with the kiss. Is that your argument? I just want to be sure I'm understanding where your paternalism is originating.ecdanc said:
GTFO with the "weak women" nonsense. Even you aren't so naive not to recognize the disincentive for women to make public statements about powerful men's behavior.mrussel1 said:
Ah... so that young lady in the cap and gown is too scared to report her 'assault'. Fascinating little argument you've constructed. If they report it, ah ha! If they don't, yeah it's how they feel but they are just weak women. You can't lose! The reporting and non-reporting both make you right. Genius.ecdanc said:
Because we all know women never (wisely) refrain from pointing out that powerful men did something inappropriatemrussel1 said:
And you're still dying on the vine of being able to ascribe motives to people and choose what's appropriate for woman. So neither of us have moved evidently.cincybearcat said:
Hahahaha dying on the Joe Biden isn't a creep despite a lot of video evidence hill again are we?mrussel1 said:
And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed. And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint. So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown. Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel. Then you can step in and play dad for them.ecdanc said:
Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.htmlmrussel1 said:
I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips. I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes. Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either. My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one. Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross? If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened. How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek? We don't. The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events? How very paternalistic of you.Spiritual_Chaos said:Lerxst1992 said:Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.
M- I was referring to Joe kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.
Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
And to your point, what does 'full on' mean? It's a photo. Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that. It's not like they are frenching.
Look - it won;t matter in the general election as he is less creepy than Trump...but that creepiness sure bothers me enough to drop him to .... maybe 4th on my list? But I'm not the Dem primary target audience so we will see how much my opinion and those like me actually matters anyhow0 -
It's crazy to me that Biden and Bernie seem like the front runners.
I don't want to stand next to one as I know he will put his hands in my pockets and I don;t want my wife or daughter standing next to the other cause I know he will do something inappropriate with his hands as well...or lips...or nose...
If Bernie gets the nomination the election will be nuts. A RINO vs a DINO. Or instead of DINO is bernie a DWA... democrat when advantageous?hippiemom = goodness0
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