***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,640
    OnWis97 said:
    Yup. Trump's going to win.  Huge.

    The United States of America exists in the Image of Donald J. Trump.  And it always will.
    Scary to think that so many americans live their lives devoid of joy because they live a life based on fear, hate,  ignorance,  jealousy, and lies. 

    #SAD
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,101
    2018
    Like I’ve stated the precious Constitution has been trampled by this administration & president it was never gonna be any other way he was acquitted three weeks ago , So now the Democrats have gotten beaten at every turn next week they will all be applauding the Baffoon when he delivers the SOTU speech ..he can get away with anything he so desires , shooting, Raping , assaulting, verbally assaulting his rivals! This country loves a corrupt winner because all that matters is winning no matter what it takes ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,131
    josevolution said:
    Like I’ve stated the precious Constitution has been trampled by this administration & president it was never gonna be any other way he was acquitted three weeks ago , So now the Democrats have gotten beaten at every turn next week they will all be applauding the Baffoon when he delivers the SOTU speech ..he can get away with anything he so desires , shooting, Raping , assaulting, verbally assaulting his rivals! This country loves a corrupt winner because all that matters is winning no matter what it takes ...
    The dems ought to wait until Team Trump Treason begins speaking at the SOTU, stand up, turn their backs, pause and quietly walk out. Maybe flip him off over their shoulder on the way out.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Y'all way too negative.  The argument that Trump supporters are going to come out now makes no sense.  They were coming either way.  The key is to look at the independent numbers.  It doesn't matter how mad you are.  
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,101
    2018
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    josevolution said:
    Like I’ve stated the precious Constitution has been trampled by this administration & president it was never gonna be any other way he was acquitted three weeks ago , So now the Democrats have gotten beaten at every turn next week they will all be applauding the Baffoon when he delivers the SOTU speech ..he can get away with anything he so desires , shooting, Raping , assaulting, verbally assaulting his rivals! This country loves a corrupt winner because all that matters is winning no matter what it takes ...
    The dems ought to wait until Team Trump Treason begins speaking at the SOTU, stand up, turn their backs, pause and quietly walk out. Maybe flip him off over their shoulder on the way out.
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,101
    2018
    The Democrats don’t have the balls they like playing by the rules! He’s a professional conman he totally has outwitted the Democrats in every faze of political chess , Democrats just need to hide their tails and walk away...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    josevolution said:
    The Democrats don’t have the balls they like playing by the rules! He’s a professional conman he totally has outwitted the Democrats in every faze of political chess , Democrats just need to hide their tails and walk away...
    No,  the solution to opposing a con man out criminal is not match him. The Democrats must retain moral high ground even if it means tactical losses.  Integrity and principles are all you really have in this world. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,131
    mrussel1 said:
    josevolution said:
    The Democrats don’t have the balls they like playing by the rules! He’s a professional conman he totally has outwitted the Democrats in every faze of political chess , Democrats just need to hide their tails and walk away...
    No,  the solution to opposing a con man out criminal is not match him. The Democrats must retain moral high ground even if it means tactical losses.  Integrity and principles are all you really have in this world. 
    Integrity and principles don't matter anymore. The precedent has been set. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    josevolution said:
    The Democrats don’t have the balls they like playing by the rules! He’s a professional conman he totally has outwitted the Democrats in every faze of political chess , Democrats just need to hide their tails and walk away...
    No,  the solution to opposing a con man out criminal is not match him. The Democrats must retain moral high ground even if it means tactical losses.  Integrity and principles are all you really have in this world. 
    Integrity and principles don't matter anymore. The precedent has been set. 
    They don't mean anything to him or that party.  Why do you have to follow suit?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    I appreciate that Romney voted his conscious.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,131
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    josevolution said:
    The Democrats don’t have the balls they like playing by the rules! He’s a professional conman he totally has outwitted the Democrats in every faze of political chess , Democrats just need to hide their tails and walk away...
    No,  the solution to opposing a con man out criminal is not match him. The Democrats must retain moral high ground even if it means tactical losses.  Integrity and principles are all you really have in this world. 
    Integrity and principles don't matter anymore. The precedent has been set. 
    They don't mean anything to him or that party.  Why do you have to follow suit?
    Who said I had to follow suit?

    If you think this doesn't have repercussions for all future elections, candidates and office holders, and that by "playing by the rues" you'll win, whether in elections or passing/implementing policy, or avoiding corruption, I'm afraid you're sadly mistaken. I look forward to a dem POTUS asking a foreign leader to dig up dirt on a repub candidate, withholding congressional aid to said foreign leader, maybe accepting a bribe here and there, and then claiming he can't be investigated, stonewalling the congressional investigation and then pointing to Team Trump Treason while the repubs scream bloody murder. They have irrevocably harmed our democracy. Playing by the rules is for losers.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,663
    Maybe the 2023 impeachment will go better
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    josevolution said:
    The Democrats don’t have the balls they like playing by the rules! He’s a professional conman he totally has outwitted the Democrats in every faze of political chess , Democrats just need to hide their tails and walk away...
    No,  the solution to opposing a con man out criminal is not match him. The Democrats must retain moral high ground even if it means tactical losses.  Integrity and principles are all you really have in this world. 
    Integrity and principles don't matter anymore. The precedent has been set. 
    They don't mean anything to him or that party.  Why do you have to follow suit?
    Who said I had to follow suit?

    If you think this doesn't have repercussions for all future elections, candidates and office holders, and that by "playing by the rues" you'll win, whether in elections or passing/implementing policy, or avoiding corruption, I'm afraid you're sadly mistaken. I look forward to a dem POTUS asking a foreign leader to dig up dirt on a repub candidate, withholding congressional aid to said foreign leader, maybe accepting a bribe here and there, and then claiming he can't be investigated, stonewalling the congressional investigation and then pointing to Team Trump Treason while the repubs scream bloody murder. They have irrevocably harmed our democracy. Playing by the rules is for losers.
    Fair enough on your first statement. I do think it has repercussions.  But I also think Trump is a once in a lifetime scum bag.  At least I hope. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,131
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    josevolution said:
    The Democrats don’t have the balls they like playing by the rules! He’s a professional conman he totally has outwitted the Democrats in every faze of political chess , Democrats just need to hide their tails and walk away...
    No,  the solution to opposing a con man out criminal is not match him. The Democrats must retain moral high ground even if it means tactical losses.  Integrity and principles are all you really have in this world. 
    Integrity and principles don't matter anymore. The precedent has been set. 
    They don't mean anything to him or that party.  Why do you have to follow suit?
    Who said I had to follow suit?

    If you think this doesn't have repercussions for all future elections, candidates and office holders, and that by "playing by the rues" you'll win, whether in elections or passing/implementing policy, or avoiding corruption, I'm afraid you're sadly mistaken. I look forward to a dem POTUS asking a foreign leader to dig up dirt on a repub candidate, withholding congressional aid to said foreign leader, maybe accepting a bribe here and there, and then claiming he can't be investigated, stonewalling the congressional investigation and then pointing to Team Trump Treason while the repubs scream bloody murder. They have irrevocably harmed our democracy. Playing by the rules is for losers.
    Fair enough on your first statement. I do think it has repercussions.  But I also think Trump is a once in a lifetime scum bag.  At least I hope. 
    Have you seen the repub congress? Once in a life time? Team Trump Treason has opened the door for every scum bag to stick their chest out, take off their cloak and lie, cheat and steal their way to power. "The POTUS cannot be investigated." CYA Barr. Why shouldn't that now apply to everyone who runs for office? Why shouldn't I be able to rob a bank when I'm unemployed because I think its in the best interest of the American people for me not to go on welfare and a fair trial on my behalf consists of no witnesses nor any documentary evidence like finger prints or video camera coverage? Why is the POTUS above the law and I'm not? Someone should try it as a defense and see where it goes.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
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    mrussel1 said:
    I appreciate that Romney voted his conscious.  
    Me, too. I had my doubts based on past words vs actions. Collins as well. I'm disappointed in Murkowski and her bullshit excuse. But the worst for me was Lamar Alexander. A guy with nothing to lose politically. Someone who has admitted that Trump's actions were improper. "The question then is not whether the president did it, but whether the United States Senate or the American people should decide what to do about what he did." He apparently forgot about the role of Congress outlined in the Constitution. At least McConnell and Graham have been slimy shitbags throughout the entire process so no surprises there. But people like Alexander and Murkowski know that Trump violated his oath of office, acknowledge it, and then abdicate responsibility. 
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I appreciate that Romney voted his conscious.  
    Me, too. I had my doubts based on past words vs actions. Collins as well. I'm disappointed in Murkowski and her bullshit excuse. But the worst for me was Lamar Alexander. A guy with nothing to lose politically. Someone who has admitted that Trump's actions were improper. "The question then is not whether the president did it, but whether the United States Senate or the American people should decide what to do about what he did." He apparently forgot about the role of Congress outlined in the Constitution. At least McConnell and Graham have been slimy shitbags throughout the entire process so no surprises there. But people like Alexander and Murkowski know that Trump violated his oath of office, acknowledge it, and then abdicate responsibility. 
    100% across the board on this. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    josevolution said:
    The Democrats don’t have the balls they like playing by the rules! He’s a professional conman he totally has outwitted the Democrats in every faze of political chess , Democrats just need to hide their tails and walk away...
    No,  the solution to opposing a con man out criminal is not match him. The Democrats must retain moral high ground even if it means tactical losses.  Integrity and principles are all you really have in this world. 
    Integrity and principles don't matter anymore. The precedent has been set. 
    They don't mean anything to him or that party.  Why do you have to follow suit?
    Who said I had to follow suit?

    If you think this doesn't have repercussions for all future elections, candidates and office holders, and that by "playing by the rues" you'll win, whether in elections or passing/implementing policy, or avoiding corruption, I'm afraid you're sadly mistaken. I look forward to a dem POTUS asking a foreign leader to dig up dirt on a repub candidate, withholding congressional aid to said foreign leader, maybe accepting a bribe here and there, and then claiming he can't be investigated, stonewalling the congressional investigation and then pointing to Team Trump Treason while the repubs scream bloody murder. They have irrevocably harmed our democracy. Playing by the rules is for losers.
    Fair enough on your first statement. I do think it has repercussions.  But I also think Trump is a once in a lifetime scum bag.  At least I hope. 
    Have you seen the repub congress? Once in a life time? Team Trump Treason has opened the door for every scum bag to stick their chest out, take off their cloak and lie, cheat and steal their way to power. "The POTUS cannot be investigated." CYA Barr. Why shouldn't that now apply to everyone who runs for office? Why shouldn't I be able to rob a bank when I'm unemployed because I think its in the best interest of the American people for me not to go on welfare and a fair trial on my behalf consists of no witnesses nor any documentary evidence like finger prints or video camera coverage? Why is the POTUS above the law and I'm not? Someone should try it as a defense and see where it goes.
    Im saying Trump's ability to manipulate is a rare and despicable skill.  The other Republicans don't have it. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,220
    jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I appreciate that Romney voted his conscious.  
    Me, too. I had my doubts based on past words vs actions. Collins as well. I'm disappointed in Murkowski and her bullshit excuse. But the worst for me was Lamar Alexander. A guy with nothing to lose politically. Someone who has admitted that Trump's actions were improper. "The question then is not whether the president did it, but whether the United States Senate or the American people should decide what to do about what he did." He apparently forgot about the role of Congress outlined in the Constitution. At least McConnell and Graham have been slimy shitbags throughout the entire process so no surprises there. But people like Alexander and Murkowski know that Trump violated his oath of office, acknowledge it, and then abdicate responsibility. 
    Murkowski doesnt come up for reelection til 22, so I assume the calculus for her was foljs will forget.... sure as fuck hope not
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
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    Romney and Collins only voted "their conscious" because they knew they could and would have cover. The timing of their statements say everything. If they had a conscious they would leave the Republican party.

    Fuck the whole lot of them. 
    Post edited by dignin on
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    dignin said:
    Romney and Collins only voted "their conscious" because they knew they could and would have cover. The timing of there statements say everything. If they had a conscious they would leave the Republican party.

    Fuck the whole lot of them. 
    What? Romney is in a deep red state.  What cover?

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