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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Cliffy6745 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
     Anyone watch the Aaron Hernandez doc? Not as good as I was expecting and definitely some bold statements from them but good god, what a fucked up story.

    There’s also another side to it where he’s just a fucking shit head who never faced consequences in his life. The one lawyer basically said this but it was like 15 seconds of a 3+ hour doc.

    My wife was interested in watching and I voted for something else.  Read a few reviews that made the doc seem somewhat sympathetic to this killer - is that the case?  If not, perhaps I should reconsider.
    Way too sympathetic. He’s gay, he has CTE, his dad died. Ya know what, lots of people go through shit and don’t murder a bunch of people 
    Yeah I agree. Haven't seen the last episode and don't really care if I do. 

    I forgot about the gay stuff so when his high school qb just blurts out that they were in a relationship it was quite a shock. haha
    I actually thought the 3rd one was the best. I was pretty pissed off after the 2nd and didn’t watch the last one for another day.

    I only kinda remember hearing the gay stuff. And I also think they better have a lot more evidence of it than that one dude from people who didn’t want to go on camera. They made an awful lot about him being gay for only one dude talking about it
    Yeah I was thinking that too. The one high school qb was the only guy they've mentioned so far. There was another one? I mean I can see that stuff being a factor, but they're really making a big leap without a lot of supporting facts
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  • Cliffy6745
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    The Juggler said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
     Anyone watch the Aaron Hernandez doc? Not as good as I was expecting and definitely some bold statements from them but good god, what a fucked up story.

    There’s also another side to it where he’s just a fucking shit head who never faced consequences in his life. The one lawyer basically said this but it was like 15 seconds of a 3+ hour doc.

    My wife was interested in watching and I voted for something else.  Read a few reviews that made the doc seem somewhat sympathetic to this killer - is that the case?  If not, perhaps I should reconsider.
    Way too sympathetic. He’s gay, he has CTE, his dad died. Ya know what, lots of people go through shit and don’t murder a bunch of people 
    Yeah I agree. Haven't seen the last episode and don't really care if I do. 

    I forgot about the gay stuff so when his high school qb just blurts out that they were in a relationship it was quite a shock. haha
    I actually thought the 3rd one was the best. I was pretty pissed off after the 2nd and didn’t watch the last one for another day.

    I only kinda remember hearing the gay stuff. And I also think they better have a lot more evidence of it than that one dude from people who didn’t want to go on camera. They made an awful lot about him being gay for only one dude talking about it
    Yeah I was thinking that too. The one high school qb was the only guy they've mentioned so far. There was another one? I mean I can see that stuff being a factor, but they're really making a big leap without a lot of supporting facts
    There is some stuff they touch in on in the last one during the double murder trial that makes it seem like there is other stuff that isn’t as public.  But yeah, it’s tough to say this guy is gay when there is one random dude from high school who is the only one on camera willing to say it. I think it’s a big leap too. 
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,314
    edited January 2020
    Cliffy6745 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
     Anyone watch the Aaron Hernandez doc? Not as good as I was expecting and definitely some bold statements from them but good god, what a fucked up story.

    There’s also another side to it where he’s just a fucking shit head who never faced consequences in his life. The one lawyer basically said this but it was like 15 seconds of a 3+ hour doc.

    My wife was interested in watching and I voted for something else.  Read a few reviews that made the doc seem somewhat sympathetic to this killer - is that the case?  If not, perhaps I should reconsider.
    Way too sympathetic. He’s gay, he has CTE, his dad died. Ya know what, lots of people go through shit and don’t murder a bunch of people 

    he was gay? for reals? NTTAWWT.

    edit: whoops....just read the above.

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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Wobbie said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
     Anyone watch the Aaron Hernandez doc? Not as good as I was expecting and definitely some bold statements from them but good god, what a fucked up story.

    There’s also another side to it where he’s just a fucking shit head who never faced consequences in his life. The one lawyer basically said this but it was like 15 seconds of a 3+ hour doc.

    My wife was interested in watching and I voted for something else.  Read a few reviews that made the doc seem somewhat sympathetic to this killer - is that the case?  If not, perhaps I should reconsider.
    Way too sympathetic. He’s gay, he has CTE, his dad died. Ya know what, lots of people go through shit and don’t murder a bunch of people 

    he was gay? for reals? NTTAWWT.
    The documentary is pretty adamant he is though there is only one guy to officially go on camera and say so from experience
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,526
    sooo giants hire freddie kitchens. eli retires.....
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  • mickeyrat
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    AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

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  • Ledbetterman10
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    mickeyrat said:
    AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

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    If Brown goes to jail, it'll be the best thing for him, his children, and society. 

    I won't name him and shame him because he made such a fool of himself at the time, but me and another user on here had a back and forth in September (while Brown was on New England) that was funny at the time, and hilarious in hindsight. I was of the opinion THEN that Brown was completely insane and the Patriots were dumb to sign him. The other user, a Patriots fan, was do defensive and actually tried to make me out to be some sort of bad guy for shit-talking Brown. "He had a tough childhood and made something of himself!" It was pathetic. When I was going on about Brown's rape allegation, the other guy brought up Big Ben (of course) and PEYTON MANNING for that time he mooned a trainer in college. It was hilarious. Fanboys are gonna fanboy I guess. I'd rather my team lose (which they do) then whore themselves by signing a subhuman piece of shit like Brown. 

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,526
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

    Warrant issued for arrest of AB in battery case https://es.pn/2umxAJs
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    If Brown goes to jail, it'll be the best thing for him, his children, and society. 

    I won't name him and shame him because he made such a fool of himself at the time, but me and another user on here had a back and forth in September (while Brown was on New England) that was funny at the time, and hilarious in hindsight. I was of the opinion THEN that Brown was completely insane and the Patriots were dumb to sign him. The other user, a Patriots fan, was do defensive and actually tried to make me out to be some sort of bad guy for shit-talking Brown. "He had a tough childhood and made something of himself!" It was pathetic. When I was going on about Brown's rape allegation, the other guy brought up Big Ben (of course) and PEYTON MANNING for that time he mooned a trainer in college. It was hilarious. Fanboys are gonna fanboy I guess. I'd rather my team lose (which they do) then whore themselves by signing a subhuman piece of shit like Brown. 

    last week with the PAL thing down there, his agent filed with the union I think to sever ties......
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    edited January 2020
    mickeyrat said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

    Warrant issued for arrest of AB in battery case https://es.pn/2umxAJs
    via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

    If Brown goes to jail, it'll be the best thing for him, his children, and society. 

    I won't name him and shame him because he made such a fool of himself at the time, but me and another user on here had a back and forth in September (while Brown was on New England) that was funny at the time, and hilarious in hindsight. I was of the opinion THEN that Brown was completely insane and the Patriots were dumb to sign him. The other user, a Patriots fan, was do defensive and actually tried to make me out to be some sort of bad guy for shit-talking Brown. "He had a tough childhood and made something of himself!" It was pathetic. When I was going on about Brown's rape allegation, the other guy brought up Big Ben (of course) and PEYTON MANNING for that time he mooned a trainer in college. It was hilarious. Fanboys are gonna fanboy I guess. I'd rather my team lose (which they do) then whore themselves by signing a subhuman piece of shit like Brown. 

    last week with the PAL thing down there, his agent filed with the union I think to sever ties......
    Smart move. This guy can't be helped because to be helped, he has to admit he's been wrong. He'll never do that. If you've checked his twitter, it's EVERYBODY'S fault but his. The NFL is racist, Big Ben's a dick, his parents were deadbeats, and on and on he goes. 

    Did you see the video (that he put on Instagram live himself) of him calling cops the N-word and insulting his baby-mama while his kids were right there? Just a horrible human being. 
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  • mickeyrat
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

    Warrant issued for arrest of AB in battery case https://es.pn/2umxAJs
    via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

    If Brown goes to jail, it'll be the best thing for him, his children, and society. 

    I won't name him and shame him because he made such a fool of himself at the time, but me and another user on here had a back and forth in September (while Brown was on New England) that was funny at the time, and hilarious in hindsight. I was of the opinion THEN that Brown was completely insane and the Patriots were dumb to sign him. The other user, a Patriots fan, was do defensive and actually tried to make me out to be some sort of bad guy for shit-talking Brown. "He had a tough childhood and made something of himself!" It was pathetic. When I was going on about Brown's rape allegation, the other guy brought up Big Ben (of course) and PEYTON MANNING for that time he mooned a trainer in college. It was hilarious. Fanboys are gonna fanboy I guess. I'd rather my team lose (which they do) then whore themselves by signing a subhuman piece of shit like Brown. 

    last week with the PAL thing down there, his agent filed with the union I think to sever ties......
    Smart move. This guy can't be helped because to be helped, he has to admit he's been wrong. He'll never do that. If you've checked his twitter, it's EVERYBODY'S fault but his. The NFL is racist, Big Ben's a dick, his parents were deadbeats, and on and on he goes. 

    Did you see the video (that he put on Instagram live himself) of him calling cops the N-word and insulting his baby-mama while his kids were right there? Just a horrible human being. 
    heard about it, thats when PAL gave his money back and said dont call us, we wont call you....
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    mickeyrat said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

    Warrant issued for arrest of AB in battery case https://es.pn/2umxAJs
    via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

    If Brown goes to jail, it'll be the best thing for him, his children, and society. 

    I won't name him and shame him because he made such a fool of himself at the time, but me and another user on here had a back and forth in September (while Brown was on New England) that was funny at the time, and hilarious in hindsight. I was of the opinion THEN that Brown was completely insane and the Patriots were dumb to sign him. The other user, a Patriots fan, was do defensive and actually tried to make me out to be some sort of bad guy for shit-talking Brown. "He had a tough childhood and made something of himself!" It was pathetic. When I was going on about Brown's rape allegation, the other guy brought up Big Ben (of course) and PEYTON MANNING for that time he mooned a trainer in college. It was hilarious. Fanboys are gonna fanboy I guess. I'd rather my team lose (which they do) then whore themselves by signing a subhuman piece of shit like Brown. 

    last week with the PAL thing down there, his agent filed with the union I think to sever ties......
    Smart move. This guy can't be helped because to be helped, he has to admit he's been wrong. He'll never do that. If you've checked his twitter, it's EVERYBODY'S fault but his. The NFL is racist, Big Ben's a dick, his parents were deadbeats, and on and on he goes. 

    Did you see the video (that he put on Instagram live himself) of him calling cops the N-word and insulting his baby-mama while his kids were right there? Just a horrible human being. 
    heard about it, thats when PAL gave his money back and said dont call us, we wont call you....
    Wasn't sure what you meant by "PAL" at first but I see now you're referring to the local police down there. Yeah, he's such a disrespectful dick, they gave him back the donation he made to their youth football league. You know how fucking awful you must be for people to RETURN YOUR DONATION because they want nothing to do with you? They're going to throw the book at him for this battery charge. And they should. It's another situation of him refusing to pay someone what he owes. Like I told that Patriots fan that was defending Brown, he's the Trump of NFL players. But unlike his past ripoffs, this time, he decided to assault the guy he owed the money to. Unbelievable. 
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  • Poncier
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

    Warrant issued for arrest of AB in battery case https://es.pn/2umxAJs
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    PEYTON MANNING for that time he mooned a trainer in college.  

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  • F Me In The Brain
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    Poncier said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

    Warrant issued for arrest of AB in battery case https://es.pn/2umxAJs
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    PEYTON MANNING for that time he mooned a trainer in college.  

    Mooned/teabagged, potato/potaato

    He's a Manning, you are not allowed to say anything bad about them!
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Poncier said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

    Warrant issued for arrest of AB in battery case https://es.pn/2umxAJs
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    PEYTON MANNING for that time he mooned a trainer in college.  

    Mooned/teabagged, potato/potaato

    He's a Manning, you are not allowed to say anything bad about them!
    My point is that Brown's "rap sheet" at the time was he was accused of rape, threatened a different woman's children on DMs, and ripped off dozens of people for thousands of dollars. Not to mention his craziness on the Raiders. So I thought it was quite a stretch for his defender on here to go back to Peyton Manning's college years as a way to make Brown seem not so bad. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    edited January 2020
    Moving away from Brown and back to reasonable folks in football, hats off to Eli for great career. I know overall he's average at best. But on the basis of those two Super Bowl runs alone, he's a legend. 
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  • Merkin Baller
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

    Warrant issued for arrest of AB in battery case https://es.pn/2umxAJs
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    If Brown goes to jail, it'll be the best thing for him, his children, and society. 

    I won't name him and shame him because he made such a fool of himself at the time, but me and another user on here had a back and forth in September (while Brown was on New England) that was funny at the time, and hilarious in hindsight. I was of the opinion THEN that Brown was completely insane and the Patriots were dumb to sign him. The other user, a Patriots fan, was do defensive and actually tried to make me out to be some sort of bad guy for shit-talking Brown. "He had a tough childhood and made something of himself!" It was pathetic. When I was going on about Brown's rape allegation, the other guy brought up Big Ben (of course) and PEYTON MANNING for that time he mooned a trainer in college. It was hilarious. Fanboys are gonna fanboy I guess. I'd rather my team lose (which they do) then whore themselves by signing a subhuman piece of shit like Brown. 


    Based on this comment alone (I didn't witness the back & forth you're referring to), I think the Manning comparison was a reach, but the Roethlisberger comparison is more than fair.

  • tbergs
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    F Me In The Brain said:
    Poncier said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

    Warrant issued for arrest of AB in battery case https://es.pn/2umxAJs
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    PEYTON MANNING for that time he mooned a trainer in college.  

    Mooned/teabagged, potato/potaato

    He's a Manning, you are not allowed to say anything bad about them!
    Lost a lot of respect for Peyton after that came out. Probably the last QB I had followed from college to the NFL back when I still watched college ball.
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  • Glorified KC
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Moving away from Brown and back to reasonable folks in football, hats off to Eli for great career. I know overall he's average at best. But on the basis of those two Super Bowl runs alone, he's a legend. 
    Is Eli a Hall of Famer?  Or better question, is he deserving of the HOF?

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  • Merkin Baller
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    tbergs said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Poncier said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

    Warrant issued for arrest of AB in battery case https://es.pn/2umxAJs
    via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

    PEYTON MANNING for that time he mooned a trainer in college.  

    Mooned/teabagged, potato/potaato

    He's a Manning, you are not allowed to say anything bad about them!
    Lost a lot of respect for Peyton after that came out. Probably the last QB I had followed from college to the NFL back when I still watched college ball.
    Don’t let Archie off the hook, they smeared his accuser something fierce: 

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  • The Juggler
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    cdthomas1981 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Moving away from Brown and back to reasonable folks in football, hats off to Eli for great career. I know overall he's average at best. But on the basis of those two Super Bowl runs alone, he's a legend. 
    Is Eli a Hall of Famer?  Or better question, is he deserving of the HOF?

    Only because of the Super Bowls. I've been through this with Giants fans so many times they're tired of it. His career fascinates me because he's pretty much been an average quarterback for most of it, yet he turned in two of the most clutch performances in NFL history. 

    I wonder how many other HOF qbs there are that you can make a similar argument....that if it were not for them winning multiple Super Bowl's they probably wouldn't have gotten in. Because I think that is the case here. If he doesn't win those two games, he's not HOF worthy...
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