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Halifax2TheMax

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

Warrant issued for arrest of AB in battery case https://es.pn/2umxAJs
via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

If Brown goes to jail, it'll be the best thing for him, his children, and society. 

I won't name him and shame him because he made such a fool of himself at the time, but me and another user on here had a back and forth in September (while Brown was on New England) that was funny at the time, and hilarious in hindsight. I was of the opinion THEN that Brown was completely insane and the Patriots were dumb to sign him. The other user, a Patriots fan, was do defensive and actually tried to make me out to be some sort of bad guy for shit-talking Brown. "He had a tough childhood and made something of himself!" It was pathetic. When I was going on about Brown's rape allegation, the other guy brought up Big Ben (of course) and PEYTON MANNING for that time he mooned a trainer in college. It was hilarious. Fanboys are gonna fanboy I guess. I'd rather my team lose (which they do) then whore themselves by signing a subhuman piece of shit like Brown. 

You could have named me, I’m not scared. I remember the argument but I believe I stated at the time that I didn’t agree with the Pats signing AB. The other stuff, yea, I’ll own it. But I hope that you’ll own teabagging a co-worker isn’t sexual assault and the difference in how the NFL treats scumbag players differently based on their value, perceived or known, upbringing and yes, race. Big Ben Rapelesburger is a rapist. And a drunk motorcycle crashed. Still in the league. Peyton sexually assaulted a co-worker/member of the training staff. Had an illustrious career. Why do they get second or third chances and you have a hard on for AB, not taking his background into consideration? If you’re going to call someone out, call em out.

Ledbetterman10

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

Warrant issued for arrest of AB in battery case https://es.pn/2umxAJs
via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

If Brown goes to jail, it'll be the best thing for him, his children, and society. 

I won't name him and shame him because he made such a fool of himself at the time, but me and another user on here had a back and forth in September (while Brown was on New England) that was funny at the time, and hilarious in hindsight. I was of the opinion THEN that Brown was completely insane and the Patriots were dumb to sign him. The other user, a Patriots fan, was do defensive and actually tried to make me out to be some sort of bad guy for shit-talking Brown. "He had a tough childhood and made something of himself!" It was pathetic. When I was going on about Brown's rape allegation, the other guy brought up Big Ben (of course) and PEYTON MANNING for that time he mooned a trainer in college. It was hilarious. Fanboys are gonna fanboy I guess. I'd rather my team lose (which they do) then whore themselves by signing a subhuman piece of shit like Brown. 

You could have named me, I’m not scared. I remember the argument but I believe I stated at the time that I didn’t agree with the Pats signing AB. The other stuff, yea, I’ll own it. But I hope that you’ll own teabagging a co-worker isn’t sexual assault and the difference in how the NFL treats scumbag players differently based on their value, perceived or known, upbringing and yes, race. Big Ben Rapelesburger is a rapist. And a drunk motorcycle crashed. Still in the league. Peyton sexually assaulted a co-worker/member of the training staff. Had an illustrious career. Why do they get second or third chances and you have a hard on for AB, not taking his background into consideration? If you’re going to call someone out, call em out.

I do think tea-bagging is sexual assault. And I agree on Roethlisberger too. Total creep. So if Brown had one or two incidents like that, fine. Shit happens. Tyreek Hill, Michael Vick, Ray Rice, the list go on. I don't like what those guys have done, but I don't dwell on them or think they're unredeemable pieces of shit. But this guy is outrageous. Maybe that's why I have a "hard-on" for him. He's a story I keep track off on the internet, just like you have your Apple News stories about Trump and Trump cronies. Here's the rap sheet....off the top of my head....of my "hard on." Ranging from petty football related bullshit to felony crimes.

-Gets a new start on the Raiders. They bend over backwards to accommodate him. Give him the money and contract he wants. Proceeds to skip meetings, puts on a fiasco about his helmet, screams at the GM that he's a cracker, records and posts a phone conversation with Gruden. Is released. Runs around his backyard yelling I'm free!

-Signs with Patriots. The following day is accused in a civil court of 3 counts of sexual assault. 1) Unwanted kissing, 2) Ejaculated on alleged victim while she was doing stretches...…...She stops working with him. He sends several LEWD (read the complaint) DMs about how he ejaculated on her and she's a loser who lives with her mom and blah blah blah....

-He takes that all back, uses his AB charm, and rekindles his friendship with the trainer. She accuses him then of count 3) Rape. In a text to her the following day, he says "You made me feel like a rapist last night" All texts and DMs are totally written in his "diction" 

This (along with the Sports Illustrated article) is where I decide I hate this guy after enjoying watching him play football for many years. Hey we have all have our people on TV that we hate. I can hate Brown like you can hate KellyAnn Conway or whoever else. 

This is also where I, stuck in an airport for 10 hours coming home from Hawaii, argue with you that he should be cut from the Patriots because he's a piece of shit. You wanna talk about a hard-on? Oh my lord. Poor AB. He came from a broken family. Look at Peyton Manning and Big Ben. And on and on you went. Rather than just reading the complaint against him (just an allegation, I understand that), or reading the Sports Illustrated article where several people (personal chefs, video producers, etc.) allege he ripped them off thousands of dollars by not paying bills. Like TRUMP, as I said then. And you, with your (what's the word....I can't think of it....umm...) HARD-ON for Trump was aghast that I'd compare your new football hero to Team Trump Treason!

-Back to the Sports Illustrated article, a woman who is a painter alleged in it that AB had hired her to paint a mural of him (good luck getting paid) and when she came to his house and began painting it, he began banging a chick in the room right next to her (loudly, uncomfortably for the painter), and then she alleges he walked out to where she was painting with a boner and towel over his dick. 

-AB COULD just let it go and enjoy the fact that despite being completely unprofessional in how he exited Pittsburgh and Oakland, he landed on the best team! Failing upward. JUST. LIKE. TRUMP. Had a good game against the Dolphins. But...he sent a DM to the woman that alleged the towel incident, and he was threatening towards her kids in the DM (posting pictures of them and suggesting something can happen to them)

-This is all fine with Brady and Belichick, who want to keep him despite this. But on this one, even Kraft has to say get lost.....AB falls into the abyss.

-Instead of taking any accountability, he lashes out at the racist NFL that's blackballing him, and Kraft (even mentioning Kraft's own massage parlor case) in a tweet. A lot of non-football, social-media related crap follows (did you see his "rap" video? makes Le'veon Bell sound like Tupac), but I'm going on too long here. So I'll skip ahead to recent days....

-Cops are called to his home in a gated-community (neighbors all hate him, of course) four times. On one occasion, that HE FILMED ON INSTAGRAM LIVE, he berates his baby-mama in the street (in front of their kids) calling her all sorts of names, while calling police officers the N-word.

-Two days ago. He refuses to pay the moving driver. The moving man can't open his truck until he gets $4,000. AB won't pay. So the guy can't open the truck. AB begins throwing rocks at the truck and does damage, so the driver leaves. The moving company calls the driver and say they spoke to AB, and he'll pay $4,800 for the bill, and the damage. Driver returns, AB will only pay $4,000, but the driver says he was told by his supervisor he needs $4,800. So what does AB do? He and his friend assaults the driver, open the truck, and take all his goods. The friend has already been arrested, and a warrant was issued for felony assault for AB. He's holed up in his house, resisting arrest. 

And yeah, he had bad upbringing. Well a lot of people do. That doesn't excuse any of this shit. And I know, he needs clinical help. But he can't be helped until he admits he's been wrong the whole time, and accepts he needs to change. His ego won't allow that. He thinks he's the fucking man and everybody is wrong but him.

F Me In The Brain

cdthomas1981 said:

Poncier said:

cdthomas1981 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Interesting question....running QBs need to take hits like RBs but none of us like to see it.

ProFootballTalk : When Patrick Mahomes becomes a running back, will the 49ers treat him like one?

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/23/when-patrick-mahomes-becomes-a-running-back-will-the-49ers-treat-him-like-one/

 Besides, last year Jimmy G's season ended thanks to a Chiefs defender hitting him near the sideline.  I'm sure that will be on some of the 49er defenders minds if that situation comes up.

Garoppolo's injury was a non contact injury. It was his left knee, injured it planting to cut back prior to the contact (his left foot is off ground when contact occurs, he goes down after hit and grabs left knee. No Chief is to blame for that one, its all on Jimmy who should have gone out of bounds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaFPFCAM-qs

ah that's right, that's why I can't remember who hit him because no one really did.

Good point, although it doesn't change the question being raised.  If he runs and gets smeared on a big hit, which he earns as a RB, does everyone freak out or accept it as what a RB has to deal with when he decides to play?

Again, I am a large Mahommes fan, even if he shreds my favorite team in the SB, I am all for them lighting his ass up as a runner but do not want any cheap shots taken to try and get him out of the game.

Halifax2TheMax

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

Warrant issued for arrest of AB in battery case https://es.pn/2umxAJs
via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

If Brown goes to jail, it'll be the best thing for him, his children, and society. 

I won't name him and shame him because he made such a fool of himself at the time, but me and another user on here had a back and forth in September (while Brown was on New England) that was funny at the time, and hilarious in hindsight. I was of the opinion THEN that Brown was completely insane and the Patriots were dumb to sign him. The other user, a Patriots fan, was do defensive and actually tried to make me out to be some sort of bad guy for shit-talking Brown. "He had a tough childhood and made something of himself!" It was pathetic. When I was going on about Brown's rape allegation, the other guy brought up Big Ben (of course) and PEYTON MANNING for that time he mooned a trainer in college. It was hilarious. Fanboys are gonna fanboy I guess. I'd rather my team lose (which they do) then whore themselves by signing a subhuman piece of shit like Brown. 

You could have named me, I’m not scared. I remember the argument but I believe I stated at the time that I didn’t agree with the Pats signing AB. The other stuff, yea, I’ll own it. But I hope that you’ll own teabagging a co-worker isn’t sexual assault and the difference in how the NFL treats scumbag players differently based on their value, perceived or known, upbringing and yes, race. Big Ben Rapelesburger is a rapist. And a drunk motorcycle crashed. Still in the league. Peyton sexually assaulted a co-worker/member of the training staff. Had an illustrious career. Why do they get second or third chances and you have a hard on for AB, not taking his background into consideration? If you’re going to call someone out, call em out.

I do think tea-bagging is sexual assault. And I agree on Roethlisberger too. Total creep. So if Brown had one or two incidents like that, fine. Shit happens. Tyreek Hill, Michael Vick, Ray Rice, the list go on. I don't like what those guys have done, but I don't dwell on them or think they're unredeemable pieces of shit. But this guy is outrageous. Maybe that's why I have a "hard-on" for him. He's a story I keep track off on the internet, just like you have your Apple News stories about Trump and Trump cronies. Here's the rap sheet....off the top of my head....of my "hard on." Ranging from petty football related bullshit to felony crimes.

-Gets a new start on the Raiders. They bend over backwards to accommodate him. Give him the money and contract he wants. Proceeds to skip meetings, puts on a fiasco about his helmet, screams at the GM that he's a cracker, records and posts a phone conversation with Gruden. Is released. Runs around his backyard yelling I'm free!

-Signs with Patriots. The following day is accused in a civil court of 3 counts of sexual assault. 1) Unwanted kissing, 2) Ejaculated on alleged victim while she was doing stretches...…...She stops working with him. He sends several LEWD (read the complaint) DMs about how he ejaculated on her and she's a loser who lives with her mom and blah blah blah....

-He takes that all back, uses his AB charm, and rekindles his friendship with the trainer. She accuses him then of count 3) Rape. In a text to her the following day, he says "You made me feel like a rapist last night" All texts and DMs are totally written in his "diction" 

This (along with the Sports Illustrated article) is where I decide I hate this guy after enjoying watching him play football for many years. Hey we have all have our people on TV that we hate. I can hate Brown like you can hate KellyAnn Conway or whoever else. 

This is also where I, stuck in an airport for 10 hours coming home from Hawaii, argue with you that he should be cut from the Patriots because he's a piece of shit. You wanna talk about a hard-on? Oh my lord. Poor AB. He came from a broken family. Look at Peyton Manning and Big Ben. And on and on you went. Rather than just reading the complaint against him (just an allegation, I understand that), or reading the Sports Illustrated article where several people (personal chefs, video producers, etc.) allege he ripped them off thousands of dollars by not paying bills. Like TRUMP, as I said then. And you, with your (what's the word....I can't think of it....umm...) HARD-ON for Trump was aghast that I'd compare your new football hero to Team Trump Treason!

-Back to the Sports Illustrated article, a woman who is a painter alleged in it that AB had hired her to paint a mural of him (good luck getting paid) and when she came to his house and began painting it, he began banging a chick in the room right next to her (loudly, uncomfortably for the painter), and then she alleges he walked out to where she was painting with a boner and towel over his dick. 

-AB COULD just let it go and enjoy the fact that despite being completely unprofessional in how he exited Pittsburgh and Oakland, he landed on the best team! Failing upward. JUST. LIKE. TRUMP. Had a good game against the Dolphins. But...he sent a DM to the woman that alleged the towel incident, and he was threatening towards her kids in the DM (posting pictures of them and suggesting something can happen to them)

-This is all fine with Brady and Belichick, who want to keep him despite this. But on this one, even Kraft has to say get lost.....AB falls into the abyss.

-Instead of taking any accountability, he lashes out at the racist NFL that's blackballing him, and Kraft (even mentioning Kraft's own massage parlor case) in a tweet. A lot of non-football, social-media related crap follows (did you see his "rap" video? makes Le'veon Bell sound like Tupac), but I'm going on too long here. So I'll skip ahead to recent days....

-Cops are called to his home in a gated-community (neighbors all hate him, of course) four times. On one occasion, that HE FILMED ON INSTAGRAM LIVE, he berates his baby-mama in the street (in front of their kids) calling her all sorts of names, while calling police officers the N-word.

-Two days ago. He refuses to pay the moving driver. The moving man can't open his truck until he gets $4,000. AB won't pay. So the guy can't open the truck. AB begins throwing rocks at the truck and does damage, so the driver leaves. The moving company calls the driver and say they spoke to AB, and he'll pay $4,800 for the bill, and the damage. Driver returns, AB will only pay $4,000, but the driver says he was told by his supervisor he needs $4,800. So what does AB do? He and his friend assaults the driver, open the truck, and take all his goods. The friend has already been arrested, and a warrant was issued for felony assault for AB. He's holed up in his house, resisting arrest. 

And yeah, he had bad upbringing. Well a lot of people do. That doesn't excuse any of this shit. And I know, he needs clinical help. But he can't be helped until he admits he's been wrong the whole time, and accepts he needs to change. His ego won't allow that. He thinks he's the fucking man and everybody is wrong but him.

You totally missed the part a few months back, while in the airport, where I stated that I disagreed with the pats for signing him and wished they hadn’t. If AB had been signed by any other team other than the pats, I don’t think you’d be ranting and raving so much about AB. The thought of the pats going to another SB for you is like me seeing Team Trump Treason winning a second term and cheating and stealing and treasoning all the way there.

Tyreek Hill is going to the SB and Stabby was involved in a death and went to the SB. No claims of scumbaggery from you toward KC or Baltimore. And there’s the rub. Be consistent in your criticism of the lack of player character and integrity of the NFL, not because you hate the Pats but because you hate scumbaggery. I’m pretty sure rapelsburger and Peyton tea bagger had pretty sweet upbringings, perhaps of wealth, privilege and coddling? They should be held to the same standard as AB, as all douche bag players should be. AB appears to need mental health care but yea, cool his heals in jail and he’s a scumbag. But between AB and the other two, one is not quite the same.

The NFL should operate more like a mult-national where players are more like employees of the company and work for a branch or division (teams). Same rules apply to all players and if the NFL lowers the boom, there is no transfer or hire by another team. NFL should act as the background checker of their careers post age 18. Got scumbaggery in your background, you’re not playing in the NFL for any team, regardless of your talent, value, marquee appeal or social media presence. Fuck up while on a team, terminated from the NFL, not just the team you play for. Same rules for everyone. Get the word out about the new NFL to pop Warner and youth football leagues, particularly high school and college players and public service announcements. It’ll take 8-15 years but you have to start somewhere. Then, and only then, will you begin to restore integrity to the NFL but it’ll take more than addressing player behavior and character to fully restore it.

The NFL is a joke and who wins or loses the super bowl and the games leading up to it have zero impact on my life or the society I live in. Kelly Ann CONway and her scumbaggery and team definitely does.

Ledbetterman10

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

Warrant issued for arrest of AB in battery case https://es.pn/2umxAJs
via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

If Brown goes to jail, it'll be the best thing for him, his children, and society. 

I won't name him and shame him because he made such a fool of himself at the time, but me and another user on here had a back and forth in September (while Brown was on New England) that was funny at the time, and hilarious in hindsight. I was of the opinion THEN that Brown was completely insane and the Patriots were dumb to sign him. The other user, a Patriots fan, was do defensive and actually tried to make me out to be some sort of bad guy for shit-talking Brown. "He had a tough childhood and made something of himself!" It was pathetic. When I was going on about Brown's rape allegation, the other guy brought up Big Ben (of course) and PEYTON MANNING for that time he mooned a trainer in college. It was hilarious. Fanboys are gonna fanboy I guess. I'd rather my team lose (which they do) then whore themselves by signing a subhuman piece of shit like Brown. 

You could have named me, I’m not scared. I remember the argument but I believe I stated at the time that I didn’t agree with the Pats signing AB. The other stuff, yea, I’ll own it. But I hope that you’ll own teabagging a co-worker isn’t sexual assault and the difference in how the NFL treats scumbag players differently based on their value, perceived or known, upbringing and yes, race. Big Ben Rapelesburger is a rapist. And a drunk motorcycle crashed. Still in the league. Peyton sexually assaulted a co-worker/member of the training staff. Had an illustrious career. Why do they get second or third chances and you have a hard on for AB, not taking his background into consideration? If you’re going to call someone out, call em out.

I do think tea-bagging is sexual assault. And I agree on Roethlisberger too. Total creep. So if Brown had one or two incidents like that, fine. Shit happens. Tyreek Hill, Michael Vick, Ray Rice, the list go on. I don't like what those guys have done, but I don't dwell on them or think they're unredeemable pieces of shit. But this guy is outrageous. Maybe that's why I have a "hard-on" for him. He's a story I keep track off on the internet, just like you have your Apple News stories about Trump and Trump cronies. Here's the rap sheet....off the top of my head....of my "hard on." Ranging from petty football related bullshit to felony crimes.

-Gets a new start on the Raiders. They bend over backwards to accommodate him. Give him the money and contract he wants. Proceeds to skip meetings, puts on a fiasco about his helmet, screams at the GM that he's a cracker, records and posts a phone conversation with Gruden. Is released. Runs around his backyard yelling I'm free!

-Signs with Patriots. The following day is accused in a civil court of 3 counts of sexual assault. 1) Unwanted kissing, 2) Ejaculated on alleged victim while she was doing stretches...…...She stops working with him. He sends several LEWD (read the complaint) DMs about how he ejaculated on her and she's a loser who lives with her mom and blah blah blah....

-He takes that all back, uses his AB charm, and rekindles his friendship with the trainer. She accuses him then of count 3) Rape. In a text to her the following day, he says "You made me feel like a rapist last night" All texts and DMs are totally written in his "diction" 

This (along with the Sports Illustrated article) is where I decide I hate this guy after enjoying watching him play football for many years. Hey we have all have our people on TV that we hate. I can hate Brown like you can hate KellyAnn Conway or whoever else. 

This is also where I, stuck in an airport for 10 hours coming home from Hawaii, argue with you that he should be cut from the Patriots because he's a piece of shit. You wanna talk about a hard-on? Oh my lord. Poor AB. He came from a broken family. Look at Peyton Manning and Big Ben. And on and on you went. Rather than just reading the complaint against him (just an allegation, I understand that), or reading the Sports Illustrated article where several people (personal chefs, video producers, etc.) allege he ripped them off thousands of dollars by not paying bills. Like TRUMP, as I said then. And you, with your (what's the word....I can't think of it....umm...) HARD-ON for Trump was aghast that I'd compare your new football hero to Team Trump Treason!

-Back to the Sports Illustrated article, a woman who is a painter alleged in it that AB had hired her to paint a mural of him (good luck getting paid) and when she came to his house and began painting it, he began banging a chick in the room right next to her (loudly, uncomfortably for the painter), and then she alleges he walked out to where she was painting with a boner and towel over his dick. 

-AB COULD just let it go and enjoy the fact that despite being completely unprofessional in how he exited Pittsburgh and Oakland, he landed on the best team! Failing upward. JUST. LIKE. TRUMP. Had a good game against the Dolphins. But...he sent a DM to the woman that alleged the towel incident, and he was threatening towards her kids in the DM (posting pictures of them and suggesting something can happen to them)

-This is all fine with Brady and Belichick, who want to keep him despite this. But on this one, even Kraft has to say get lost.....AB falls into the abyss.

-Instead of taking any accountability, he lashes out at the racist NFL that's blackballing him, and Kraft (even mentioning Kraft's own massage parlor case) in a tweet. A lot of non-football, social-media related crap follows (did you see his "rap" video? makes Le'veon Bell sound like Tupac), but I'm going on too long here. So I'll skip ahead to recent days....

-Cops are called to his home in a gated-community (neighbors all hate him, of course) four times. On one occasion, that HE FILMED ON INSTAGRAM LIVE, he berates his baby-mama in the street (in front of their kids) calling her all sorts of names, while calling police officers the N-word.

-Two days ago. He refuses to pay the moving driver. The moving man can't open his truck until he gets $4,000. AB won't pay. So the guy can't open the truck. AB begins throwing rocks at the truck and does damage, so the driver leaves. The moving company calls the driver and say they spoke to AB, and he'll pay $4,800 for the bill, and the damage. Driver returns, AB will only pay $4,000, but the driver says he was told by his supervisor he needs $4,800. So what does AB do? He and his friend assaults the driver, open the truck, and take all his goods. The friend has already been arrested, and a warrant was issued for felony assault for AB. He's holed up in his house, resisting arrest. 

And yeah, he had bad upbringing. Well a lot of people do. That doesn't excuse any of this shit. And I know, he needs clinical help. But he can't be helped until he admits he's been wrong the whole time, and accepts he needs to change. His ego won't allow that. He thinks he's the fucking man and everybody is wrong but him.

You totally missed the part a few months back, while in the airport, where I stated that I disagreed with the pats for signing him and wished they hadn’t. If AB had been signed by any other team other than the pats, I don’t think you’d be ranting and raving so much about AB. The thought of the pats going to another SB for you is like me seeing Team Trump Treason winning a second term and cheating and stealing and treasoning all the way there.

Tyreek Hill is going to the SB and Stabby was involved in a death and went to the SB. No claims of scumbaggery from you toward KC or Baltimore. And there’s the rub. Be consistent in your criticism of the lack of player character and integrity of the NFL, not because you hate the Pats but because you hate scumbaggery. I’m pretty sure rapelsburger and Peyton tea bagger had pretty sweet upbringings, perhaps of wealth, privilege and coddling? They should be held to the same standard as AB, as all douche bag players should be. AB appears to need mental health care but yea, cool his heals in jail and he’s a scumbag. But between AB and the other two, one is not quite the same.

The NFL should operate more like a mult-national where players are more like employees of the company and work for a branch or division (teams). Same rules apply to all players and if the NFL lowers the boom, there is no transfer or hire by another team. NFL should act as the background checker of their careers post age 18. Got scumbaggery in your background, you’re not playing in the NFL for any team, regardless of your talent, value, marquee appeal or social media presence. Fuck up while on a team, terminated from the NFL, not just the team you play for. Same rules for everyone. Get the word out about the new NFL to pop Warner and youth football leagues, particularly high school and college players and public service announcements. It’ll take 8-15 years but you have to start somewhere. Then, and only then, will you begin to restore integrity to the NFL but it’ll take more than addressing player behavior and character to fully restore it.

The NFL is a joke and who wins or loses the super bowl and the games leading up to it have zero impact on my life or the society I live in. Kelly Ann CONway and her scumbaggery and team definitely does.

You're completely wrong about me disliking him because the Pats picked him up. It has nothing to do with the Pats. In fact, while I don't rah-rah for them, I appreciate their greatness, enjoy their postseason runs from an entertainment standpoint, and have won thousands of dollars betting on them. I thought Brown was nuts and they shouldn't bother with him. But I have nothing against them. It's not always about the Pats, man. 

When Tyreek Hill did what he did, or Roethlisberger did what he did, they did it, and that was it. I talked shit on them too like I would anybody that does that sort of stuff. But why would I be talking about Hill's incident now? Or anybody else's? That was in the past. AB's bullshit is ongoing. He's expected to turn himself in on a felony assault warrant as we speak.

And thank goodness we have you posting Apple articles on Kelly Ann's scumbaggery for us. Opening our eyes and impacting our society. Stupid football with it’s zero impact. 

Halifax2TheMax

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

AB HAS  have some kind of mental health issue going on. whats next?

Warrant issued for arrest of AB in battery case https://es.pn/2umxAJs
via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

If Brown goes to jail, it'll be the best thing for him, his children, and society. 

I won't name him and shame him because he made such a fool of himself at the time, but me and another user on here had a back and forth in September (while Brown was on New England) that was funny at the time, and hilarious in hindsight. I was of the opinion THEN that Brown was completely insane and the Patriots were dumb to sign him. The other user, a Patriots fan, was do defensive and actually tried to make me out to be some sort of bad guy for shit-talking Brown. "He had a tough childhood and made something of himself!" It was pathetic. When I was going on about Brown's rape allegation, the other guy brought up Big Ben (of course) and PEYTON MANNING for that time he mooned a trainer in college. It was hilarious. Fanboys are gonna fanboy I guess. I'd rather my team lose (which they do) then whore themselves by signing a subhuman piece of shit like Brown. 

You could have named me, I’m not scared. I remember the argument but I believe I stated at the time that I didn’t agree with the Pats signing AB. The other stuff, yea, I’ll own it. But I hope that you’ll own teabagging a co-worker isn’t sexual assault and the difference in how the NFL treats scumbag players differently based on their value, perceived or known, upbringing and yes, race. Big Ben Rapelesburger is a rapist. And a drunk motorcycle crashed. Still in the league. Peyton sexually assaulted a co-worker/member of the training staff. Had an illustrious career. Why do they get second or third chances and you have a hard on for AB, not taking his background into consideration? If you’re going to call someone out, call em out.

I do think tea-bagging is sexual assault. And I agree on Roethlisberger too. Total creep. So if Brown had one or two incidents like that, fine. Shit happens. Tyreek Hill, Michael Vick, Ray Rice, the list go on. I don't like what those guys have done, but I don't dwell on them or think they're unredeemable pieces of shit. But this guy is outrageous. Maybe that's why I have a "hard-on" for him. He's a story I keep track off on the internet, just like you have your Apple News stories about Trump and Trump cronies. Here's the rap sheet....off the top of my head....of my "hard on." Ranging from petty football related bullshit to felony crimes.

-Gets a new start on the Raiders. They bend over backwards to accommodate him. Give him the money and contract he wants. Proceeds to skip meetings, puts on a fiasco about his helmet, screams at the GM that he's a cracker, records and posts a phone conversation with Gruden. Is released. Runs around his backyard yelling I'm free!

-Signs with Patriots. The following day is accused in a civil court of 3 counts of sexual assault. 1) Unwanted kissing, 2) Ejaculated on alleged victim while she was doing stretches...…...She stops working with him. He sends several LEWD (read the complaint) DMs about how he ejaculated on her and she's a loser who lives with her mom and blah blah blah....

-He takes that all back, uses his AB charm, and rekindles his friendship with the trainer. She accuses him then of count 3) Rape. In a text to her the following day, he says "You made me feel like a rapist last night" All texts and DMs are totally written in his "diction" 

This (along with the Sports Illustrated article) is where I decide I hate this guy after enjoying watching him play football for many years. Hey we have all have our people on TV that we hate. I can hate Brown like you can hate KellyAnn Conway or whoever else. 

This is also where I, stuck in an airport for 10 hours coming home from Hawaii, argue with you that he should be cut from the Patriots because he's a piece of shit. You wanna talk about a hard-on? Oh my lord. Poor AB. He came from a broken family. Look at Peyton Manning and Big Ben. And on and on you went. Rather than just reading the complaint against him (just an allegation, I understand that), or reading the Sports Illustrated article where several people (personal chefs, video producers, etc.) allege he ripped them off thousands of dollars by not paying bills. Like TRUMP, as I said then. And you, with your (what's the word....I can't think of it....umm...) HARD-ON for Trump was aghast that I'd compare your new football hero to Team Trump Treason!

-Back to the Sports Illustrated article, a woman who is a painter alleged in it that AB had hired her to paint a mural of him (good luck getting paid) and when she came to his house and began painting it, he began banging a chick in the room right next to her (loudly, uncomfortably for the painter), and then she alleges he walked out to where she was painting with a boner and towel over his dick. 

-AB COULD just let it go and enjoy the fact that despite being completely unprofessional in how he exited Pittsburgh and Oakland, he landed on the best team! Failing upward. JUST. LIKE. TRUMP. Had a good game against the Dolphins. But...he sent a DM to the woman that alleged the towel incident, and he was threatening towards her kids in the DM (posting pictures of them and suggesting something can happen to them)

-This is all fine with Brady and Belichick, who want to keep him despite this. But on this one, even Kraft has to say get lost.....AB falls into the abyss.

-Instead of taking any accountability, he lashes out at the racist NFL that's blackballing him, and Kraft (even mentioning Kraft's own massage parlor case) in a tweet. A lot of non-football, social-media related crap follows (did you see his "rap" video? makes Le'veon Bell sound like Tupac), but I'm going on too long here. So I'll skip ahead to recent days....

-Cops are called to his home in a gated-community (neighbors all hate him, of course) four times. On one occasion, that HE FILMED ON INSTAGRAM LIVE, he berates his baby-mama in the street (in front of their kids) calling her all sorts of names, while calling police officers the N-word.

-Two days ago. He refuses to pay the moving driver. The moving man can't open his truck until he gets $4,000. AB won't pay. So the guy can't open the truck. AB begins throwing rocks at the truck and does damage, so the driver leaves. The moving company calls the driver and say they spoke to AB, and he'll pay $4,800 for the bill, and the damage. Driver returns, AB will only pay $4,000, but the driver says he was told by his supervisor he needs $4,800. So what does AB do? He and his friend assaults the driver, open the truck, and take all his goods. The friend has already been arrested, and a warrant was issued for felony assault for AB. He's holed up in his house, resisting arrest. 

And yeah, he had bad upbringing. Well a lot of people do. That doesn't excuse any of this shit. And I know, he needs clinical help. But he can't be helped until he admits he's been wrong the whole time, and accepts he needs to change. His ego won't allow that. He thinks he's the fucking man and everybody is wrong but him.

You totally missed the part a few months back, while in the airport, where I stated that I disagreed with the pats for signing him and wished they hadn’t. If AB had been signed by any other team other than the pats, I don’t think you’d be ranting and raving so much about AB. The thought of the pats going to another SB for you is like me seeing Team Trump Treason winning a second term and cheating and stealing and treasoning all the way there.

Tyreek Hill is going to the SB and Stabby was involved in a death and went to the SB. No claims of scumbaggery from you toward KC or Baltimore. And there’s the rub. Be consistent in your criticism of the lack of player character and integrity of the NFL, not because you hate the Pats but because you hate scumbaggery. I’m pretty sure rapelsburger and Peyton tea bagger had pretty sweet upbringings, perhaps of wealth, privilege and coddling? They should be held to the same standard as AB, as all douche bag players should be. AB appears to need mental health care but yea, cool his heals in jail and he’s a scumbag. But between AB and the other two, one is not quite the same.

The NFL should operate more like a mult-national where players are more like employees of the company and work for a branch or division (teams). Same rules apply to all players and if the NFL lowers the boom, there is no transfer or hire by another team. NFL should act as the background checker of their careers post age 18. Got scumbaggery in your background, you’re not playing in the NFL for any team, regardless of your talent, value, marquee appeal or social media presence. Fuck up while on a team, terminated from the NFL, not just the team you play for. Same rules for everyone. Get the word out about the new NFL to pop Warner and youth football leagues, particularly high school and college players and public service announcements. It’ll take 8-15 years but you have to start somewhere. Then, and only then, will you begin to restore integrity to the NFL but it’ll take more than addressing player behavior and character to fully restore it.

The NFL is a joke and who wins or loses the super bowl and the games leading up to it have zero impact on my life or the society I live in. Kelly Ann CONway and her scumbaggery and team definitely does.

You're completely wrong about me disliking him because the Pats picked him up. It has nothing to do with the Pats. In fact, while I don't rah-rah for them, I appreciate their greatness, enjoy their postseason runs from an entertainment standpoint, and have won thousands of dollars betting on them. I thought Brown was nuts and they shouldn't bother with him. But I have nothing against them. It's not always about the Pats, man. 

When Tyreek Hill did what he did, or Roethlisberger did what he did, they did it, and that was it. I talked shit on them too like I would anybody that does that sort of stuff. But why would I be talking about Hill's incident now? Or anybody else's? That was in the past. AB's bullshit is ongoing. He's expected to turn himself in on a felony assault warrant as we speak.

And thank goodness we have you posting Apple articles on Kelly Ann's scumbaggery for us. Opening our eyes and impacting our society. You do us all a favor. Log this conversation in your message board journal as pointless non-Trump talk though. Just stupid football. 

Yea, I know, priorities, right?

Ledbetterman10

And also, I know he has mental health problems. But now he's committed felony assault. So yes, I say throw his ass in jail. Two dudes can't just beat the shit out of a delivery guy. 

One of the main reasons I can't stand this guy is the same reason I can't stand Trump (even if you think I like him), I hate people that rip other people off. Especially rich assholes that rip off people that already have less money than them. I know...he came from a rough upbringing. Fine. But now, as an adult, AB's the same sort of a rich asshole that Trump is. He and Trump probably have a lot of the same mental health issues actually. Only AB has a more violent streak.

Halifax2TheMax

Ledbetterman10 said:

And also, I know he has mental health problems. But now he's committed felony assault. So yes, I say throw his ass in jail. Two dudes can't just beat the shit out of a delivery guy. 

One of the main reasons I can't stand this guy is the same reason I can't stand Trump (even if you think I like him), I hate people that rip other people off. Especially rich assholes that rip off people that already have less money than them. I know...he came from a rough upbringing. Fine. But now, as an adult, AB's the same sort of a rich asshole that Trump is. He and Trump probably have a lot of the same mental health issues actually. Only AB has a more violent streak.

AB ever drone strike someone? Or brag about shooting someone on 5th Avenue and getting away with it? How about looking the other way while a US journalist is murdered, chopped up and disappeared? Or incite a crowd to rough up someone who disagrees? On the sexual assault score I’d argue they’re about even.

Ledbetterman10

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

And also, I know he has mental health problems. But now he's committed felony assault. So yes, I say throw his ass in jail. Two dudes can't just beat the shit out of a delivery guy. 

One of the main reasons I can't stand this guy is the same reason I can't stand Trump (even if you think I like him), I hate people that rip other people off. Especially rich assholes that rip off people that already have less money than them. I know...he came from a rough upbringing. Fine. But now, as an adult, AB's the same sort of a rich asshole that Trump is. He and Trump probably have a lot of the same mental health issues actually. Only AB has a more violent streak.

AB ever drone strike someone? Or brag about shooting someone on 5th Avenue and getting away with it? How about looking the other way while a US journalist is murdered, chopped up and disappeared? Or incite a crowd to rough up someone who disagrees? On the sexual assault score I’d argue they’re about even.

Nah just rape, threatening children, pushing his baby-mama to the ground, and assaulting a delivery man. But give him time. Trump does have like 40 years on him. He’ll catch up. 

Merkin Baller

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

And also, I know he has mental health problems. But now he's committed felony assault. So yes, I say throw his ass in jail. Two dudes can't just beat the shit out of a delivery guy. 

One of the main reasons I can't stand this guy is the same reason I can't stand Trump (even if you think I like him), I hate people that rip other people off. Especially rich assholes that rip off people that already have less money than them. I know...he came from a rough upbringing. Fine. But now, as an adult, AB's the same sort of a rich asshole that Trump is. He and Trump probably have a lot of the same mental health issues actually. Only AB has a more violent streak.

AB ever drone strike someone? Or brag about shooting someone on 5th Avenue and getting away with it? How about looking the other way while a US journalist is murdered, chopped up and disappeared? Or incite a crowd to rough up someone who disagrees? On the sexual assault score I’d argue they’re about even.

Nah just rape, threatening children, pushing his baby-mama to the ground, and assaulting a delivery man. But give him time. Trump does have like 40 years on him. He’ll catch up. 

So, he's already been convicted?

That was quick.

Ledbetterman10

Merkin Baller said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

And also, I know he has mental health problems. But now he's committed felony assault. So yes, I say throw his ass in jail. Two dudes can't just beat the shit out of a delivery guy. 

One of the main reasons I can't stand this guy is the same reason I can't stand Trump (even if you think I like him), I hate people that rip other people off. Especially rich assholes that rip off people that already have less money than them. I know...he came from a rough upbringing. Fine. But now, as an adult, AB's the same sort of a rich asshole that Trump is. He and Trump probably have a lot of the same mental health issues actually. Only AB has a more violent streak.

AB ever drone strike someone? Or brag about shooting someone on 5th Avenue and getting away with it? How about looking the other way while a US journalist is murdered, chopped up and disappeared? Or incite a crowd to rough up someone who disagrees? On the sexual assault score I’d argue they’re about even.

Nah just rape, threatening children, pushing his baby-mama to the ground, and assaulting a delivery man. But give him time. Trump does have like 40 years on him. He’ll catch up. 

So, he's already been convicted?

That was quick.

He has?

Jeez that WAS quick. 

Ledbetterman10

https://twitter.com/CameronWolfe/status/1220711867674439681

God bless his probation officer. 

"Did you go to your mental health evaluation today?"

"Fuck you cracker!"

Hopefully he uses this opportunity to turns things around. I don't think he'll play in the NFL again. But for his kids' sake, he needs to shape up. 

Poncier

SO when he tries to stiff the court on the 100K for the bail (like he stiffs everyone) they'll keep him locked up.

Ledbetterman10

Poncier said:

SO when he tries to stiff the court on the 100K for the bail (like he stiffs everyone) they'll keep him locked up.

I think his bigger issue will be abiding by whatever recommendations the mental health eval makes. It could recommend frequent therapy, or that he not be allowed to own a gun, or something else that may piss him off. He also has to stay clear of any new incidents before this assault case is heard or dismissed. 

Merkin Baller

Ledbetterman10 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

And also, I know he has mental health problems. But now he's committed felony assault. So yes, I say throw his ass in jail. Two dudes can't just beat the shit out of a delivery guy. 

One of the main reasons I can't stand this guy is the same reason I can't stand Trump (even if you think I like him), I hate people that rip other people off. Especially rich assholes that rip off people that already have less money than them. I know...he came from a rough upbringing. Fine. But now, as an adult, AB's the same sort of a rich asshole that Trump is. He and Trump probably have a lot of the same mental health issues actually. Only AB has a more violent streak.

AB ever drone strike someone? Or brag about shooting someone on 5th Avenue and getting away with it? How about looking the other way while a US journalist is murdered, chopped up and disappeared? Or incite a crowd to rough up someone who disagrees? On the sexual assault score I’d argue they’re about even.

Nah just rape, threatening children, pushing his baby-mama to the ground, and assaulting a delivery man. But give him time. Trump does have like 40 years on him. He’ll catch up. 

So, he's already been convicted?

That was quick.

He has?

Jeez that WAS quick. 

I missed that, last I saw these were just allegations.

Ledbetterman10

Eli retirement presser stream if anyone's interested....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYIx9OtPZwA

Merkin Baller

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfls-saints-fight-to-shield-emails-in-catholic-abuse-crisis/ar-BBZiigO?ocid=ientp

This will get buried faster than Eli's memorabilia lawsuit.

Ledbetterman10

Statement from the Saints. The part that is bolded was bolded by them, not me. 

"While there is current litigation relative to the New Orleans Archdiocese and clergy sex abuse, our comments are limited only to the scope of our involvement. The New Orleans Saints organization has always had a very strong relationship with the Archdiocese. The Archdiocese reached out to a number of community and civic minded leaders seeking counsel on handling the pending media attention that would come with the release of the clergy names in November of 2018. Greg Bensel, Senior Vice President of Communications for the New Orleans Saints, was contacted and offered input on how to work with the media. The advice was simple and never wavering. Be direct, open and fully transparent, while making sure that all law enforcement agencies were alerted. The New Orleans Saints, Greg Bensel and Mrs. Gayle Benson were and remain offended, disappointed and repulsed by the actions of certain past clergy. We remain steadfast in support of the victims who have suffered and pray for their continued healing.

Further, the Saints have no interest in concealing information from the press or public. At the current discovery stage in the case of Doe v. Archdiocese, the Saints, through their counsel, have merely requested the court to apply the normal rules of civil discovery to the documents that the Saints produced and delivered to Mr. Doe's counsel. Until the documents are admitted into evidence at a public trial or hearing in the context of relevant testimony by persons having knowledge of the documents and the events to which they pertain, the use of the documents should be limited to the parties to the case and their attorneys. If admitted into evidence of the case, the documents and the testimony pertaining to them will become part of the public record of the trial of the case."

https://www.neworleanssaints.com/news/statement-from-the-new-orleans-saints

ikiT

Eli goes in.  He beat the goat twice.

I shut off the Hernandez doc in episode 1 when I saw those roadside Pats fans professing their love for the Prison Van containing AH heading back to Walpole after an early court appearance. Eli beat him too.

Gay?  Who gives a shit?  

Ledbetterman10

https://twitter.com/AllanBell247/status/1221870166486798336