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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,714
    Poncier said:
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    mrussel1 said:
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    Wobbie said:
    WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.
    Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 
    I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 
    The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  
    Ah... I thought the area of the stadium was also considered the flats. 

    I get it... Kraft has Patriot Place and it's pretty f'ing impressive... now all he needs is a winning football team which I don't see happening anytime soon. 
    The winning starts in London over breakfast this Sunday.
    I won't be holding my breath.
    Jags are in disarray. This is one of the winnable games for the Pats.
     but I have zero faith in this coaching staff. 
    Friggin' Van Pelt and that enormous (and apparently empty) head calling run after run on first down. Let the kid throw the ball, especially in some non passing downs so the D can't tee off.
    I don't think AVP is even 1/4 of the problem... the fish rots from the head down, and Kraft f'ed up huge by bringing in a guy w/ zero head coaching experience. He was puffing out his chest as recently as a couple weeks ago over the Mayo hiring, and the guy looks like a deer in the headlights. 

    It doesn't help that so many defensive players are injured, but still in all... Mayo is in way over his head and I'll be surprised if he hasn't already lost the team with the way he's calling some of them out to the media. 
    Never understood what public shaming accomplishes.  One of the key leadership rules is "praise publicly,  criticize privately".
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,756
    edited October 21
    went to bed close to start of 4th quarter. seemed by then the steelers were chugging on all cyliders even though it was still close at 22-15.

    getting to see wilson bring his skill set to the mix was .... relieving once he threw the first couple long balls. hope he can impart some wisdom to fields in that regard. what is that? touch, technique, feel? combo of the three?

    stiil master fucking moves grabbing both qb's for this season.
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,674
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.
    Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 
    I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 
    The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  
    Ah... I thought the area of the stadium was also considered the flats. 

    I get it... Kraft has Patriot Place and it's pretty f'ing impressive... now all he needs is a winning football team which I don't see happening anytime soon. 
    The winning starts in London over breakfast this Sunday.
    I won't be holding my breath.
    Jags are in disarray. This is one of the winnable games for the Pats.
     but I have zero faith in this coaching staff. 
    Friggin' Van Pelt and that enormous (and apparently empty) head calling run after run on first down. Let the kid throw the ball, especially in some non passing downs so the D can't tee off.
    I don't think AVP is even 1/4 of the problem... the fish rots from the head down, and Kraft f'ed up huge by bringing in a guy w/ zero head coaching experience. He was puffing out his chest as recently as a couple weeks ago over the Mayo hiring, and the guy looks like a deer in the headlights. 

    It doesn't help that so many defensive players are injured, but still in all... Mayo is in way over his head and I'll be surprised if he hasn't already lost the team with the way he's calling some of them out to the media. 
    Never understood what public shaming accomplishes.  One of the key leadership rules is "praise publicly,  criticize privately".

    Public shaming pretty much signals when things have gone off of the rails.  A good operation doesn't throw their own under the bus.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,963
    mickeyrat said:


    getting to see wilson bring his skill set to the mix was .... relieving once he threw the first couple long balls. hope he can impart some wisdom to fields in that regard. what is that? touch, technique, feel? combo of the three?

    Wilson has long been known as a great deep ball thrower. Don't think he can impart that to Fields. It's a gift (practiced for sure) that some have and many do not. He is one of the best at it of his generation.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,211
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.
    Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 
    I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 
    The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  
    Ah... I thought the area of the stadium was also considered the flats. 

    I get it... Kraft has Patriot Place and it's pretty f'ing impressive... now all he needs is a winning football team which I don't see happening anytime soon. 
    The winning starts in London over breakfast this Sunday.
    I won't be holding my breath.
    Jags are in disarray. This is one of the winnable games for the Pats.
     but I have zero faith in this coaching staff. 
    Friggin' Van Pelt and that enormous (and apparently empty) head calling run after run on first down. Let the kid throw the ball, especially in some non passing downs so the D can't tee off.
    my bad….thought you were talking about scott van pelt, even tho it made no sense why SVP would be calling for runs, unless he was calling a game, which he doesn’t do.

    however, SVP also has an enormous and toaster shaped head and he sucks.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,612
    Can't believe Bowles was still throwing the ball with all his starters in. That Godwin injury looked bad. They did almost get me a miracle comeback win in fantasy with Baker. Lost by one.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,014
    They should have kept Saleh
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,963
    DeAndre Hopkins to KC.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,674
    Poncier said:
    DeAndre Hopkins to KC.

    The way the season has gone, we just need warm bodies to fill the receiver room.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,536
    Poncier said:
    DeAndre Hopkins to KC.
    never understood teams trading with the Pats during Brady's era and don't understand trading with KC now.  why help the best team?  For a lousy draft pick.  makes no sense to me.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,890
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    DeAndre Hopkins to KC.
    never understood teams trading with the Pats during Brady's era and don't understand trading with KC now.  why help the best team?  For a lousy draft pick.  makes no sense to me.
    Reminds me of the 2004 Patriots trading for Corey Dillion. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,666
    Glad Rodger’s is loosing hope he gets traded or just quits and gets lost! Woody sucks too
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,612
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    DeAndre Hopkins to KC.
    never understood teams trading with the Pats during Brady's era and don't understand trading with KC now.  why help the best team?  For a lousy draft pick.  makes no sense to me.
    Yeah. Like does Houston never want to get to the Super Bowl?
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,211
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    DeAndre Hopkins to KC.
    never understood teams trading with the Pats during Brady's era and don't understand trading with KC now.  why help the best team?  For a lousy draft pick.  makes no sense to me.
    I think it’s a money thing. Titans can suck with or without Hopkins. They’re not going anywhere, anytime soon. I’m pretty sure the Chiefs aren’t getting vintage Hopkins, but I could be wrong.
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,326
    Dude can still catch anything close to him.
    Can he get open?  

    Agree.  Teams should know better.  
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,674
    Dude can still catch anything close to him.
    Can he get open?  

    Agree.  Teams should know better.  

    If you saw the rest of the receiver room, those questions become moot.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,211
    In the NFL, you get two games for PED’s. In MLB, you get blackballed from the HOF.
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,326
    Dude can still catch anything close to him.
    Can he get open?  

    Agree.  Teams should know better.  

    If you saw the rest of the receiver room, those questions become moot.
    Haha. Indeed.  
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,831
    Nice job missing the face mask refs. Game over for sure now. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,963
    tbergs said:
    Nice job missing the face mask refs. Game over for sure now. 
    Brutal missed call.
    Rams probably still win either way, but how do you miss that?
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,674
    Face mask penalties should be reviewable.  No subjectivity to a face mask.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,536
    Face mask penalties should be reviewable.  No subjectivity to a face mask.
    Agree here. Most of them are blatantly obvious and are just missed because the ref is in a bad position. the ref on that play last night was behind Darnold and clearly couldn't see it.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,481
    Anything that happens on the field of play should be reviewable. 
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,831
    Poncier said:
    tbergs said:
    Nice job missing the face mask refs. Game over for sure now. 
    Brutal missed call.
    Rams probably still win either way, but how do you miss that?
    Yeah, no illusions the Vikes were going to pull it off, but 1st and 10 at the 20 instead of backed up to the goal opens up the field a lot, especially with JJ. They blew the game either way before that, but still had a shot to drive down the field. Could have been a hell of a finish for people watching, although I know that's few for TNF.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,674
    tbergs said:
    Poncier said:
    tbergs said:
    Nice job missing the face mask refs. Game over for sure now. 
    Brutal missed call.
    Rams probably still win either way, but how do you miss that?
    Yeah, no illusions the Vikes were going to pull it off, but 1st and 10 at the 20 instead of backed up to the goal opens up the field a lot, especially with JJ. They blew the game either way before that, but still had a shot to drive down the field. Could have been a hell of a finish for people watching, although I know that's few for TNF.

    I selfishly wanted Darnold to drive them down.  I started him in fantasy this week! 
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,963
    tbergs said:
    Poncier said:
    tbergs said:
    Nice job missing the face mask refs. Game over for sure now. 
    Brutal missed call.
    Rams probably still win either way, but how do you miss that?
    Yeah, no illusions the Vikes were going to pull it off, but 1st and 10 at the 20 instead of backed up to the goa
    Not just backed up to the goal, Rams were awarded a safety, increased lead to 10 points essentially ending game, plus Vikes had to free kick ball back to Rams. (Attempted the onside kick of course but failed).
    That missed call took Vikes from long shot chances to absolute zero chances.
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,674
    edited October 25
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,118
    tbergs said:
    Nice job missing the face mask refs. Game over for sure now. 
    there was a ref at the end zone looking DIRECTLY at him, and it wasn't obstructed. Brutal missed call. 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,831
    Haha! Because denying reality means it didn't happen. What a clown. Just admit you thought for sure you were fucked. Doesn't change the outcome of the game unless there's some potential rule around fines he could get for it that I'm not aware of.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,118
    I'd imagine that tweet was in jest. 
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