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Been in Fan Club since 2004 and don’t get tickets??? What is the point
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  • BD74069BD74069 Posts: 1
    I’ve been in since 1996 & didn’t get tickets to the 2 shows I applied for. First time in awhile I haven’t gotten tickets. What a fucking joke this Ticketmaster system turned out to be
  • SR86171SR86171 Posts: 1
    Completely agree.  The GA percentage for Nashville was at 29% and somehow I didn't get a ticket.  I've been in the ten club since 2000. This is bullshit.  
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,743
    Did anyone here ever take a Statistics course? I’m sure you could find one online. 
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,670
    Gold.
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  • rocketman99rocketman99 Anchorage, AK Posts: 1
    Me 3.  I was concerned at the very beginning when I saw that ticketwhore was involved in the process.  What a surprise, I didn't get tickets to any of the three shows I put in for.  Complete and total bullshit!  I bet those tm fuckers found a way to farm them all out to scalpers.
  • LoveHateEpicLoveHateEpic Posts: 5
    Also didn't get tickets and this isn't the first time I have lost one of these lotteries. What is the exactly the point of me paying a membership fee for the last 10 years? Seems to just be constant disappointment and a lack of value. Love Pearl Jam, but they need a better system than this. 
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,670
    Good system 👍

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  • AN126064AN126064 Earth Posts: 64
    Been paying the membership fee since it was a paper card no tix to my first two either ☹️ Longtime membership doesn’t mean much anymore. 
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,670
    It does if you win.  
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  • mattyf98mattyf98 Posts: 5
    I am joining the complaints...I just spoke with a close friend who just renewed his membership two years ago.  (I have been a member since paper memberships as well (90's)...I have never been denied a show...EVER. ) Well, he got tix to the show and I didn't.  

    If its on seniority...how is this possible?  What is this BS TicketMaster process? because I obviously don't understand this...
  • deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    mattyf98 said:
    I am joining the complaints...I just spoke with a close friend who just renewed his membership two years ago.  (I have been a member since paper memberships as well (90's)...I have never been denied a show...EVER. ) Well, he got tix to the show and I didn't.  

    If its on seniority...how is this possible?  What is this BS TicketMaster process? because I obviously don't understand this...
    Tickets aren't by seniority, reserved seating is. 
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  • SS49057SS49057 Posts: 79
    SR86171 said:
    Completely agree.  The GA percentage for Nashville was at 29% and somehow I didn't get a ticket.  I've been in the ten club since 2000. This is bullshit.  
    What I don't understand is why the GA Pit tickets are distributed via random lottery in which every member gets an equal opportunity to be drawn for tickets, regardless of Ten Club tenure / seniority. It's my understanding that this has been the past process and it's currently being utilized for this tour - am I mistaken or has it changed?

    If seniority determines Reserved seating opportunity, why doesn't it determine GA Pit opportunity?

    One could easily weight the GA Pit drawing by seniority.

    Example: Someone with 22 years Ten Club membership gets 22 proverbial ping pong balls in the hopper to be drawn for GA Pit tickets; someone with 11 years Ten Club membership gets 11 proverbial ping pong balls in the hopper to be drawn for GA Pit tickets; someone with 3 years Ten Club membership gets 3 proverbial ping pong balls in the hopper to be drawn for GA Pit tickets.

    Once someone gets their ping pong ball drawn from the hopper, they are awarded their pair of GA Pit tickets, and all of their other ping pong balls are withdrawn. Then, another ping pong ball is withdrawn, another pair of GA Pit tickets is awarded, and any remaining ping pong balls for that member are removed from the hopper.

    The process continues until all GA Pit tickets are distributed.

    This seems like a ticket distribution process that could actually be executed more easily than even what they currently do for Reserved seats. Just curious why something like it isn't used for GA Pit ticket distribution.
  • Lilly WilsonLilly Wilson Posts: 13
    I’ve been a member from the start and did not get tickets. This stings. Anyway, Lilly and I will be at the Nashville concert. Remember the Ryman story? Well she’s 21 now. It’s gonna be a special night-gonna try presale on the 23rd. 
  • amethgr8amethgr8 Posts: 766
    One reason the band went to GA and not floor seats is because they wanted to give newer members a chance to be down in front.  In your theory a long time member would have their name in that many time more than someone who only has a couple years.

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  • Lilly WilsonLilly Wilson Posts: 13
    That makes sense. 
  • mattyf98mattyf98 Posts: 5
    So...I just want to make sure I have this straight...if I put in for both GA and reserved tix and didn't get GA then I should have secured reserved if it said I had a 99% chance?  or it is a random drawing for both GA and reserve then sorted by seniority... I am really confused about how I did not get tix.

  • LYackyLYacky 🇨🇦 Posts: 72
    edited January 2020
    I had to call 10C for assistance with the pre-sale code I was sent and while on the phone I was told that the lottery was random in terms of scoring actual tiks & GA but that seniority was used for Reserved Seating. The higher your seniority the better your seats. I thought it made perfect sense. Think of it, if high ranking members always had priority over all available 10C tiks to every single concert then newer members would never stand a chance of scoring tiks as the same people would always win - every. single. time. What incentive does that give for anyone new to join the club? I mean God forbid you're a new(er) or younger fan but are just as obsessed with PJ as an older fan. You'd be totally screwed because your high membership number would always exclude you from pre-sale tik access. This way every paying 10C member has an equal chance to win tiks and maybe, just maybe get pit access however your longtime loyalty and low membership number will reward you with the much better seats if you do win. Seems like a fair system to me. 🤷‍♀️ 
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  • CO278952CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,406
    The new process is better than ever.
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  • NYPJfan87NYPJfan87 Posts: 6
    LYacky said:
    I had to call 10C for assistance with the pre-sale code I was sent and while on the phone I was told that the lottery was random in terms of scoring actual tiks & GA but that seniority was used for Reserved Seating. The higher your seniority the better your seats. I thought it made perfect sense. Think of it, if high ranking members always had priority over all available 10C tiks to every single concert then newer members would never stand a chance of scoring tiks as the same people would always win - every. single. time. What incentive does that give for anyone new to join the club? I mean God forbid you're a new(er) or younger fan but are just as obsessed with PJ as an older fan. You'd be totally screwed because your high membership number would always exclude you from pre-sale tik access. This way every paying 10C member has an equal chance to win tiks and maybe, just maybe get pit access however your longtime loyalty and low membership number will reward you with the much better seats if you do win. Seems like a fair system to me. 🤷‍♀️ 
    Agreed. Makes perfect sense. I’m a new 10c member but have been attending shows for years as a guest of a 10c member so I consider myself a “real” PJ fan. I’m grateful to have a shot at GA seats for the Nashville show. Seen PJ live probably 10 times but never GA.
  • AN103604AN103604 Posts: 3
    I've been shut out as well. This is the THIRD time; Worcester 2013, Fenway 2016 and now MSG 2020. I am just heartbroken, again. 
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,849
    SVRDhand13 said:
    Did anyone here ever take a Statistics course? I’m sure you could find one online. 
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  • cutzcutz Posts: 12,033
    SVRDhand13 said:
    Did anyone here ever take a Statistics course? I’m sure you could find one online. 
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Gold.

  • andrew68andrew68 Toronto Posts: 1,841
    SR86171 said:
    Completely agree.  The GA percentage for Nashville was at 29% and somehow I didn't get a ticket.  I've been in the ten club since 2000. This is bullshit.  
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  • RustedSigns20RustedSigns20 Posts: 17
    ab142477 said:
    Been in Fan Club since 2004 and don’t get tickets??? What is the point
    Been a member for longer than that and shutout!!!
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  • AKRounder85AKRounder85 Phila Posts: 250
    Also shutout on the lottery.

    Think the band should be doing stadiums (at least in the northeast) and leave the arenas in the past, in my opinion. Too much demand and not enough tickets to go around for everyone that wants to see them.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Perhaps the gimme's might want to gather their torches and storm the Ten Club to demand the spoils to which they're obviously entitled.

    That'll learn 'em!
  • AKRounder85AKRounder85 Phila Posts: 250
    hedonist said:
    Perhaps the gimme's might want to gather their torches and storm the Ten Club to demand the spoils to which they're obviously entitled.

    That'll learn 'em!
    Don't know if this was towards me or not. I'm just trying to suggest a more inclusive system for the future. I understand if the band want to play fewer and fewer shows/year but larger venues would help out in not disappointing a decent portion of the fanbase.

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  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    edited January 2020
    ab142477 said:
    Been in Fan Club since 2004 and don’t get tickets??? What is the point

    BD74069 said:
    I’ve been in since 1996 & didn’t get tickets to the 2 shows I applied for. First time in awhile I haven’t gotten tickets. What a fucking joke this Ticketmaster system turned out to be

    Wow! First posts ever! Welcome!

    So you didn't bother with posting positive statements after winning tickets all those other years?  Didn't start a "So Happy thread"?
    Post edited by myoung321 on
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  • LYackyLYacky 🇨🇦 Posts: 72
    edited January 2020
    AKRounder85 said:
    hedonist said:
    Perhaps the gimme's might want to gather their torches and storm the Ten Club to demand the spoils to which they're obviously entitled.

    That'll learn 'em!
    Don't know if this was towards me or not. I'm just trying to suggest a more inclusive system for the future. I understand if the band want to play fewer and fewer shows/year but larger venues would help out in not disappointing a decent portion of the fanbase.

    Really tho, how much more inclusive can you get than a random lottery? With a lottery every paying member has an equal shot at tiks and GA but again, if you do end up winning and are a longtime 10C member then you're going to get much better seats than new members. Doesn't get more inclusive than that imo.

    Obvs we're all massive PJ fans here or else we wouldn't be 10C members posting on this forum and all these pre-sale tiks went to 10C members both longtime & new. Every member deserves a fair shot at seeing their fav band in concert, especially those fans who maybe haven't been fortunate enough to see the band multiple times already or seen them live at all. 
    Post edited by LYacky on
  • AKRounder85AKRounder85 Phila Posts: 250
    They can sell out stadiums and more people will get to experience the band live and people wont have to wait until 2020-whenever for another "chance" in the lottery. Would result in less disappointed fans. I'm for MORE fans seeing the band both new and old not for seniority based.
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