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  • levolor27
    levolor27 White Plains, NY Posts: 9
    I think the thing that is most frustrating as a long time fan and club member is that not only did I not get MSG tickets even though it said there was a 91% chance but I go in stub hub and there are already tons of over priced tickets listed which to me suggested that this safe ticket doesn’t work. 
  • lalu
    lalu Posts: 1
    SS49057 said:
    SS49057 said:
    Maybe a lot of low seniority people were shut out previously and they just didn’t complain since they kind of expected it.  And people
    with seniority are now getting the L and voicing their displeasure.  Which is what seems to be happening.  This is the only FA club where seniority ‘matters’ and seems like their are going away from it a little at a time.
    False - The Dave Matthews Band Warehouse Fan Club operates by seniority as well.
    So does U2's Fan Club, for that matter
    U2 legacy is nothing to call home about. As long you are signed up before the tour announcement, you are granted legacy.
  • kasedoug
    kasedoug The Golden State Posts: 3,011
    levolor27 said:
    I think the thing that is most frustrating as a long time fan and club member is that not only did I not get MSG tickets even though it said there was a 91% chance but I go in stub hub and there are already tons of over priced tickets listed which to me suggested that this safe ticket doesn’t work. 
    MSG odds ended much lower than that. The odds at the time that you entered did not ultimately matter, only the odds when the lottery period ended. Odds for MSG ended up at 9% for GA and 57% for Reseved seats and you only had a chance if NY was your #1 Priority choice. It would have been better off if TM/10C could have followed up once the lottery closed with the final numbers. Seems like it was more of a disservice and caused more confusion to include the odds at time of entry in people’s confirmations. New York is unfortunately one of two states where ticketing laws require that buyers must have the option to receive tickets in hand, which will lead to them being able to be listed on StubHub. 
    Best of luck in the Verified Fan and/or public sale. Hopefully you can land some tickets.
  • SS49057
    SS49057 Posts: 79
    Here's the complete info from the Ticketmaster Verified Fan Presale email I just received. Some important points to take note of:

    "Tickets go on sale tomorrow at 10am local venue time at Ticketmaster.com. There is a four (4) ticket limit per access code. Tickets will be available on a first-come, first-served basis, and are not guaranteed.

    You will only be allowed to shop for the shows listed above. If you try to shop for a different show, you will get an error message and will not be able to proceed to the Waiting Room.


    Important Steps for a Smoother Waiting Room & Purchase Experience

    1. Sign in With Your Verified Fan Email and Password
    Using a different email and password will result in errors and delays.

    2. Join the Waiting Room at Least 10 Minutes Early
    This will allow us to provide you a place in line when the sale begins.

    3. Only Shop on One Browser/Device
    Shopping for the same show from multiple browsers or devices will likely result in an error and make it impossible to get tickets.

    4. Make Checkout a Breeze
    Review your Stored Billing to confirm your credit card is valid and billing address is up-to-date.


    Important Steps for a Smoother Waiting Room & Purchase Experience
    Ticketmaster has partnered with Pearl Jam to make sure fans get their tickets at face value. To achieve this, Pearl Jam has directed that tickets be non-transferable.* On the night of the show, all guests will be required to enter with the ticket purchaser. For fans that cannot use the tickets they have purchased, Pearl Jam and Ticketmaster will offer a Fan-to-Fan Face Value Ticket Exchange* beginning February 18. There will be no additional fees charged to Exchange users for buying or selling tickets on the Exchange.

    *Does not apply to shows in New York or Colorado.


    SafeTix™ Will Be Used For Ticket Delivery For All Shows
    All Pearl Jam shows will be powered by Ticketmaster SafeTix. It’s a new kind of ticket that uses a unique barcode that automatically refreshes every few seconds so it cannot be screenshot or counterfeited. No other tickets will be accepted for entry."
  • levolor27
    levolor27 White Plains, NY Posts: 9
    Thanks for the clarification about the odds percentage. I didn’t realize that.  Still continues to be frustrating when tour after tour despite being a member of the fan club it’s near impossible to get tickets through the presale. Also the tickets on stubhub are digital tickets according to the listings I saw. 

    And to top it off I’m now on the waitlist for the verified fan presale. 

    Come on universe!
  • kasedoug
    kasedoug The Golden State Posts: 3,011
    levolor27 said:
    Thanks for the clarification about the odds percentage. I didn’t realize that.  Still continues to be frustrating when tour after tour despite being a member of the fan club it’s near impossible to get tickets through the presale. Also the tickets on stubhub are digital tickets according to the listings I saw. 

    And to top it off I’m now on the waitlist for the verified fan presale. 

    Come on universe!
    I think the law mainly has to do with transferability. So there may be digital transfer available for NY and Denver, but none of the other shows. I remember in 2016 that we had the option of paying to have our 10C MSG tix shipped to us beforehand due to NY law instead of being restricted to will call day of show only like previous PJ tours.
  • schapp
    schapp Posts: 161
    I got also shut out for "my shows", NYC and Baltimore. Cannot travel farther out that month.

    I believe that more than the system, was the lack of NE shows that made this mess. If there were at least an extra MSG limiting the lottery to winning one night only, and one Boston, most fans would have gotten tickets. 
  • GetRight13
    GetRight13 NY Posts: 588
    edited January 2020
    schapp said:

    I believe that more than the system, was the lack of NE shows that made this mess. 
    THIS

    I agree, the lack of Philly and Boston shows made the NYC in super demand, when NYC is an already high demand show.. That and there being only one NYC show.  Was shut out of 10club reserved and verified fan Presale for NYC... Oh well, we'll see how public sale goes tomorrow. 
    2023 Austin 1 & 2
    2022
    Ottawa 09/03
    2016
    MSG 1 & 2
    2013 Brooklyn (10/18, 10/19) Philadelphia (10/21, 10/22)
    2012 Atlanta 09/22
    2009 Albany 06/08 (Eddie Solo)
    2008 Bonnaroo 6/14
    2006 Albany 05/12
    2005 Philadelphia 10/03
    2000 Saratoga Springs 08/27
  • SS49057
    SS49057 Posts: 79
    schapp said:

    I believe that more than the system, was the lack of NE shows that made this mess. 
    THIS

    I agree, the lack of Philly and Boston shows made the NYC in super demand, when NYC is an already high demand show.. That and there being only one NYC show.  Was shut out of 10club reserved and verified fan Presale for NYC... Oh well, we'll see how public sale goes tomorrow. 
    And the fact that Royal Farms Arena in Baltimore is significantly smaller than Madison Square Garden and for that matter, all of the other arenas on this tour - 13,650 capacity for Royal Farms Arena vs. 20,000 for Madison Square Garden - made ticket demand in the Northeast overwhelming. 
  • You'd think people who won the lottery wouldn't get the presale code, and the people who didn't win the lottery would...alas, shutout from the lotto & wait listed. Bummer
    2009 Philadelphia (10/31)
    2010 Boston (5/17)
    2013 Worcester (10/15); Worcester (10/16); Hartford (10/25)
    2016 Boston (8/5); Boston (8/7)
    2018 London (6/18); Boston (9/2); Boston (9/4)
    2019 EV Lisbon (6/20)
    2021 Ohana Dana Point (10/2)
    2022 EV Earthlings NYC (2/3)
    2022 NYC (9/11); Camden (9/14)
    2023 St. Paul (8/31); St. Paul (9/2); Austin (9/18); Austin (9/19)
    2024: NYC (9/3); NYC (9/4); Philadelphia (9/7)
  • andrew68
    andrew68 Toronto Posts: 1,845
    You'd think people who won the lottery wouldn't get the presale code, and the people who didn't win the lottery would...alas, shutout from the lotto & wait listed. Bummer
    double dipping is allowed?  ugh...this just keeps getting worse
    Any new realizations... would have to wait...
    Til he had more time,... more time...
    Time to dream,... to himself... he waves goodbye,
    To himself... I'll see you on the other side...
  • andrew68 said:
    You'd think people who won the lottery wouldn't get the presale code, and the people who didn't win the lottery would...alas, shutout from the lotto & wait listed. Bummer
    double dipping is allowed?  ugh...this just keeps getting worse
    I think I saw that on Reddit this AM but maybe I misinterpreted
    2009 Philadelphia (10/31)
    2010 Boston (5/17)
    2013 Worcester (10/15); Worcester (10/16); Hartford (10/25)
    2016 Boston (8/5); Boston (8/7)
    2018 London (6/18); Boston (9/2); Boston (9/4)
    2019 EV Lisbon (6/20)
    2021 Ohana Dana Point (10/2)
    2022 EV Earthlings NYC (2/3)
    2022 NYC (9/11); Camden (9/14)
    2023 St. Paul (8/31); St. Paul (9/2); Austin (9/18); Austin (9/19)
    2024: NYC (9/3); NYC (9/4); Philadelphia (9/7)
  • schapp
    schapp Posts: 161
    andrew68 said:
    You'd think people who won the lottery wouldn't get the presale code, and the people who didn't win the lottery would...alas, shutout from the lotto & wait listed. Bummer
    double dipping is allowed?  ugh...this just keeps getting worse
    I think I saw that on Reddit this AM but maybe I misinterpreted
    I'm pretty sure that's the case, as these are separate entities: 10c lottery vs VF. 
  • schapp said:
    andrew68 said:
    You'd think people who won the lottery wouldn't get the presale code, and the people who didn't win the lottery would...alas, shutout from the lotto & wait listed. Bummer
    double dipping is allowed?  ugh...this just keeps getting worse
    I think I saw that on Reddit this AM but maybe I misinterpreted
    I'm pretty sure that's the case, as these are separate entities: 10c lottery vs VF. 
    Welp, that sucks....fall leg can't get announced fast enough 
    2009 Philadelphia (10/31)
    2010 Boston (5/17)
    2013 Worcester (10/15); Worcester (10/16); Hartford (10/25)
    2016 Boston (8/5); Boston (8/7)
    2018 London (6/18); Boston (9/2); Boston (9/4)
    2019 EV Lisbon (6/20)
    2021 Ohana Dana Point (10/2)
    2022 EV Earthlings NYC (2/3)
    2022 NYC (9/11); Camden (9/14)
    2023 St. Paul (8/31); St. Paul (9/2); Austin (9/18); Austin (9/19)
    2024: NYC (9/3); NYC (9/4); Philadelphia (9/7)
  • Didn't get tickets either. I was trying to get Baltimore. Was encouraged initially by all the parameters set. Entered que immediately & sat there with 2000+ ahead of me. Got to 1329 & it stayed there for about 10 min, even though it said it was updating. Finally got into purchasing room & they were gone. SO FRUSTRATED!!!
  • DL136722
    DL136722 Not sure... Posts: 724
    The worst part about this whole setup is that fan club members got ten Club tickets and they got verified presale tickets while others didn't get either one such horseshit
    Tweeter Center - Aug 29, 2000;Tweeter Center - Aug 30, 2000;Allstate Arena - Oct 09, 2000;Pepsi Arena - Apr 29, 2003;Bryce-Jordan Center - May 03, 2003;Bell Center - Jun 29, 2003;Tweeter Center - Jul 02, 2003;Tweeter Center - Jul 03, 2003;Tweeter Center - Jul 11, 2003;Tweeter Center at the Waterfront - Jul 05, 2003;Tweeter Center at the Waterfront - Jul 06, 2003;Madison Square Garden - Jul 08, 2003;Madison Square Garden - Jul 09, 2003;TD Banknorth Garden - May 24, 2006;TD Banknorth Garden - May 25, 2006;Fleet Center - Sept 28, 2004;Fleet Center - Sept 29, 2004;Pepsi Arena - May 12, 2006 New England Dodge Music Arena - May 13, 2006;Grant Park - Aug 05, 2007;Bonnaroo - Jun 14, 2008;Dodge Music Center - Jun 27, 2008;Tweeter Center - Jun 28, 2008;Tweeter Center - Jun 30, 2008 XL Arena - May 15, 2010;TD Garden - May 17, 2010;Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sept 03, 2011;Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sep 04, 2011 Corel Centre - Sep 16, 2005;Colisee Pepsi Arena - Sep 20, 2005; Wrigley Field - July 19, 2013; DCU Center - Oct 15, 2013; DCU Center - Oct 16, 2013; Fenway Park - August 5, 2016; Fenway Park - August 7, 2016

    Oh Dude!
  • DL136722
    DL136722 Not sure... Posts: 724
    I mean just out of pure fairness, if you were lucky enough to score a ticket through the 10Club you should automatically not be allowed to get tickets to the verified presale Ticketmaster setup, I mean does that really need an explanation? If you think about it they score two tickets through the 10 Club and then you're able to get four tickets today so that means there's some people potentially with six tickets while others have zero
    Tweeter Center - Aug 29, 2000;Tweeter Center - Aug 30, 2000;Allstate Arena - Oct 09, 2000;Pepsi Arena - Apr 29, 2003;Bryce-Jordan Center - May 03, 2003;Bell Center - Jun 29, 2003;Tweeter Center - Jul 02, 2003;Tweeter Center - Jul 03, 2003;Tweeter Center - Jul 11, 2003;Tweeter Center at the Waterfront - Jul 05, 2003;Tweeter Center at the Waterfront - Jul 06, 2003;Madison Square Garden - Jul 08, 2003;Madison Square Garden - Jul 09, 2003;TD Banknorth Garden - May 24, 2006;TD Banknorth Garden - May 25, 2006;Fleet Center - Sept 28, 2004;Fleet Center - Sept 29, 2004;Pepsi Arena - May 12, 2006 New England Dodge Music Arena - May 13, 2006;Grant Park - Aug 05, 2007;Bonnaroo - Jun 14, 2008;Dodge Music Center - Jun 27, 2008;Tweeter Center - Jun 28, 2008;Tweeter Center - Jun 30, 2008 XL Arena - May 15, 2010;TD Garden - May 17, 2010;Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sept 03, 2011;Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sep 04, 2011 Corel Centre - Sep 16, 2005;Colisee Pepsi Arena - Sep 20, 2005; Wrigley Field - July 19, 2013; DCU Center - Oct 15, 2013; DCU Center - Oct 16, 2013; Fenway Park - August 5, 2016; Fenway Park - August 7, 2016

    Oh Dude!
  • DL136722 said:
    I mean just out of pure fairness, if you were lucky enough to score a ticket through the 10Club you should automatically not be allowed to get tickets to the verified presale Ticketmaster setup, I mean does that really need an explanation? If you think about it they score two tickets through the 10 Club and then you're able to get four tickets today so that means there's some people potentially with six tickets while others have zero
    Absolutely insane 
    2009 Philadelphia (10/31)
    2010 Boston (5/17)
    2013 Worcester (10/15); Worcester (10/16); Hartford (10/25)
    2016 Boston (8/5); Boston (8/7)
    2018 London (6/18); Boston (9/2); Boston (9/4)
    2019 EV Lisbon (6/20)
    2021 Ohana Dana Point (10/2)
    2022 EV Earthlings NYC (2/3)
    2022 NYC (9/11); Camden (9/14)
    2023 St. Paul (8/31); St. Paul (9/2); Austin (9/18); Austin (9/19)
    2024: NYC (9/3); NYC (9/4); Philadelphia (9/7)
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,227
    DL136722 said:
    I mean just out of pure fairness, if you were lucky enough to score a ticket through the 10Club you should automatically not be allowed to get tickets to the verified presale Ticketmaster setup, I mean does that really need an explanation? If you think about it they score two tickets through the 10 Club and then you're able to get four tickets today so that means there's some people potentially with six tickets while others have zero
    Absolutely insane 
    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Anyone can sign up for the Verified Fan Pre-Sale.
  • DL136722
    DL136722 Not sure... Posts: 724
    cutz said:
    DL136722 said:
    I mean just out of pure fairness, if you were lucky enough to score a ticket through the 10Club you should automatically not be allowed to get tickets to the verified presale Ticketmaster setup, I mean does that really need an explanation? If you think about it they score two tickets through the 10 Club and then you're able to get four tickets today so that means there's some people potentially with six tickets while others have zero
    Absolutely insane 
    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Anyone can sign up for the Verified Fan Pre-Sale.
    That's not the point and I have a feeling you know what I mean, point being that it seems wrong. 
    Tweeter Center - Aug 29, 2000;Tweeter Center - Aug 30, 2000;Allstate Arena - Oct 09, 2000;Pepsi Arena - Apr 29, 2003;Bryce-Jordan Center - May 03, 2003;Bell Center - Jun 29, 2003;Tweeter Center - Jul 02, 2003;Tweeter Center - Jul 03, 2003;Tweeter Center - Jul 11, 2003;Tweeter Center at the Waterfront - Jul 05, 2003;Tweeter Center at the Waterfront - Jul 06, 2003;Madison Square Garden - Jul 08, 2003;Madison Square Garden - Jul 09, 2003;TD Banknorth Garden - May 24, 2006;TD Banknorth Garden - May 25, 2006;Fleet Center - Sept 28, 2004;Fleet Center - Sept 29, 2004;Pepsi Arena - May 12, 2006 New England Dodge Music Arena - May 13, 2006;Grant Park - Aug 05, 2007;Bonnaroo - Jun 14, 2008;Dodge Music Center - Jun 27, 2008;Tweeter Center - Jun 28, 2008;Tweeter Center - Jun 30, 2008 XL Arena - May 15, 2010;TD Garden - May 17, 2010;Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sept 03, 2011;Alpine Valley Music Theatre - Sep 04, 2011 Corel Centre - Sep 16, 2005;Colisee Pepsi Arena - Sep 20, 2005; Wrigley Field - July 19, 2013; DCU Center - Oct 15, 2013; DCU Center - Oct 16, 2013; Fenway Park - August 5, 2016; Fenway Park - August 7, 2016

    Oh Dude!