North American Tour Odds

NewfieintheUSA · January 2020

bbiggs said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

tdawe said:

In 2016, was the MSG pit Ten Club Only?

I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.

GA is always TC only

Could be some non-10C this year with the fan exchange. I assume most wont be selling GA tix, but it is possible.

Agreed, just the initial sale of GA is only to TC members

mace1229 · January 2020

JW269453 said:

All these odds do is show me that there are not near as many paid members as people think. Since we were able to see how many tickets were held at each venue basic math can now be applied to find out roughly how many requests came in. Given the population in the northeast and only 2 shows you would think the odds would have been much worse for NY and Baltimore. Lets say they are holding 15k tickets for MSG (which is amazing), but if NY is at 57% odds that means roughly 26-27k ticket requests came in. Unless they have an odds system that is not factually based that is not that impressive given the insane population in that area and most members going for 2 tickets. I understand that putting in for only GA or only reserved skews the odds some, but not a crazy amount. What PJ did by securing more tickets was great because it gives members in those insane population density areas a much better shot and it doesn't matter where they play the public will grab up whats left in most cases. Win-win situation.

Where did it show how many seats were being held?
There may be fewer paid members than we think, but what is probably more likely is more people skip the shows or only see them in their home town. Probably fewer travel and see more than 1 show that we (or maybe just me) sometimes assume.

Kidcloudkicker · January 2020

IlliniGuy76 said:

bbiggs said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

tdawe said:

In 2016, was the MSG pit Ten Club Only?

I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.

GA is always TC only

Could be some non-10C this year with the fan exchange. I assume most wont be selling GA tix, but it is possible.

Not sure that they've cleared this up - if the F2F exchange will be allowed only for 10C members (who are looking to unload 10c seats/GA that were purchased) or not, or have they?

I believe it was mentioned by the Ticketmaster rep on the faithful forum that the F2F would be open to anyone. So there could be non 10C that get into GA through the exchange.

tdawe · January 2020

NewfieintheUSA said:

tdawe said:

In 2016, was the MSG pit Ten Club Only?

I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.

GA is always TC only

Then I wonder why the odds are 50% better this time? Presumably they didn't increase the square footage of the GA area (didn't look that way on the venue map anyway). Unlike the reserved tickets where it seems like they were able to negotiate for more seats for us, there should be pretty much the same number of GA tickets available this time as last time.

IlliniGuy76 · January 2020

Kidcloudkicker said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

bbiggs said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

tdawe said:

In 2016, was the MSG pit Ten Club Only?

I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.

GA is always TC only

Could be some non-10C this year with the fan exchange. I assume most wont be selling GA tix, but it is possible.

Not sure that they've cleared this up - if the F2F exchange will be allowed only for 10C members (who are looking to unload 10c seats/GA that were purchased) or not, or have they?

I believe it was mentioned by the Ticketmaster rep on the faithful forum that the F2F would be open to anyone. So there could be non 10C that get into GA through the exchange.

Lots of people pressing "refresh" on their browsers as it comes closer to concert time to buy those!

kaw753 · January 2020

Kidcloudkicker said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

bbiggs said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

tdawe said:

In 2016, was the MSG pit Ten Club Only?

I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.

GA is always TC only

Could be some non-10C this year with the fan exchange. I assume most wont be selling GA tix, but it is possible.

Not sure that they've cleared this up - if the F2F exchange will be allowed only for 10C members (who are looking to unload 10c seats/GA that were purchased) or not, or have they?

I believe it was mentioned by the Ticketmaster rep on the faithful forum that the F2F would be open to anyone. So there could be non 10C that get into GA through the exchange.

It seems like it would not be rocket science to add a fan club waiting list to fill orders as people cancel their tickets.

tdawe · January 2020

Kidcloudkicker said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

bbiggs said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

tdawe said:

In 2016, was the MSG pit Ten Club Only?

I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.

GA is always TC only

Could be some non-10C this year with the fan exchange. I assume most wont be selling GA tix, but it is possible.

Not sure that they've cleared this up - if the F2F exchange will be allowed only for 10C members (who are looking to unload 10c seats/GA that were purchased) or not, or have they?

I believe it was mentioned by the Ticketmaster rep on the faithful forum that the F2F would be open to anyone. So there could be non 10C that get into GA through the exchange.

The tickets sold in the Verified Fan presale (other than NY and CO) will also be in the exchange, so clearly it won't be limited to just the fan club members. Unless they're setting up two separate exchanges, which I doubt.

TA243471 · January 2020

Maybe the single ticket option really freed more tickets than seemed possible?

FiveBelow · January 2020

mace1229 said:

JW269453 said:

All these odds do is show me that there are not near as many paid members as people think. Since we were able to see how many tickets were held at each venue basic math can now be applied to find out roughly how many requests came in. Given the population in the northeast and only 2 shows you would think the odds would have been much worse for NY and Baltimore. Lets say they are holding 15k tickets for MSG (which is amazing), but if NY is at 57% odds that means roughly 26-27k ticket requests came in. Unless they have an odds system that is not factually based that is not that impressive given the insane population in that area and most members going for 2 tickets. I understand that putting in for only GA or only reserved skews the odds some, but not a crazy amount. What PJ did by securing more tickets was great because it gives members in those insane population density areas a much better shot and it doesn't matter where they play the public will grab up whats left in most cases. Win-win situation.

Where did it show how many seats were being held?
There may be fewer paid members than we think, but what is probably more likely is more people skip the shows or only see them in their home town. Probably fewer travel and see more than 1 show that we (or maybe just me) sometimes assume.

Just looking at the blue areas you can get a gauge of roughly how many tickets were held based on venue capacity. Travel may be something that keeps more away, and I too always assumed that paid members would likely be in for multiple shows especially when you can hit so many places withing a reasonable distance in the northeast.

Goneshootin · January 2020

mace1229 said:

JW269453 said:

All these odds do is show me that there are not near as many paid members as people think. Since we were able to see how many tickets were held at each venue basic math can now be applied to find out roughly how many requests came in. Given the population in the northeast and only 2 shows you would think the odds would have been much worse for NY and Baltimore. Lets say they are holding 15k tickets for MSG (which is amazing), but if NY is at 57% odds that means roughly 26-27k ticket requests came in. Unless they have an odds system that is not factually based that is not that impressive given the insane population in that area and most members going for 2 tickets. I understand that putting in for only GA or only reserved skews the odds some, but not a crazy amount. What PJ did by securing more tickets was great because it gives members in those insane population density areas a much better shot and it doesn't matter where they play the public will grab up whats left in most cases. Win-win situation.

Where did it show how many seats were being held?
There may be fewer paid members than we think, but what is probably more likely is more people skip the shows or only see them in their home town. Probably fewer travel and see more than 1 show that we (or maybe just me) sometimes assume.

I don’t think they ever said that entire sections were fully allocated for 10c. So MSG for example basically every section showed ticket availability, but I didn’t assume that meant every seat in those sections. Would be nice if that were the case though!

djbrothers · January 2020

TA243471 said:

Maybe the single ticket option really freed more tickets than seemed possible?

This seems quite likely. I, for one, put in more single requests than requests for pairs (3 single, 2 pair).

gotthebottle · January 2020

djbrothers said:

TA243471 said:

Maybe the single ticket option really freed more tickets than seemed possible?

This seems quite likely. I, for one, put in more single requests than requests for pairs (3 single, 2 pair).

I believe that too... more singles= more opportunity

CO278952 · January 2020

There will definitely be seats available on the verified fan presale for all the shows with 99 percent odds for reserved

afgpj · January 2020

dmbolp said:

For DMB seat assignments have come weeks later with TICKETSTODAY (more shows = more weeks later), so matches with the 1/27 seat assignment date. I think this process is going to have other similarities to DMB's ticket process.

Was there GA for DMB? If so, did the first email say what kind of ticket you got?

jstu39 · January 2020

Saltzy23 said:

Is anyone else going to back to the Innings Festival this year to see DMB and Weezer?

I fell in love with that whole thing last year and am going back for warm weather, spring training baseball, and music.

It's an incredibly solid bang for the buck if you plan it right.

I think between credit card points and AirBnB I am spending like $1k for an entire week out there.

I live in Phoenix and will be there. Looking forward to OAR this year. Enjoyed Eddie last year.

Great time of year to visit and catch some Spring training and Coyotes hockey!

PSUS2H · January 2020

CO278952 said:

There will definitely be seats available on the verified fan presale for all the shows with 99 percent odds for reserved

Yeah, but a crush of people trying to get them! Good luck everyone :peace:

andyfarrimond · January 2020

tempo_n_groove said:

andyfarrimond said:

tempo_n_groove said:

SVRDhand13 said:

I don’t even care about GA I just hope I can get into Balt and MSG at this point

I have yet to win a PJ lottery for NY... Only one I have won so far was TOTD... and I live here...

That's because they know who you are Chris!

lol. That's funny! Will I see you here on the east coast Andy?

Probably not on the spring leg, maybe in the fall. I was going to try for Baltimore but we'll be away for Spring Break at Disney

mfc2006 · January 2020

ComeToTX said:

mfc2006 said:

OKC is looking great!!

I figured it would be the easiest ticket of the tour but glad that GA looks very likely too. Can't wait!

Me too!

nc_jammer1 · January 2020

jstu39 said:

Saltzy23 said:

Is anyone else going to back to the Innings Festival this year to see DMB and Weezer?

I fell in love with that whole thing last year and am going back for warm weather, spring training baseball, and music.

It's an incredibly solid bang for the buck if you plan it right.

I think between credit card points and AirBnB I am spending like $1k for an entire week out there.

I live in Phoenix and will be there. Looking forward to OAR this year. Enjoyed Eddie last year.

Great time of year to visit and catch some Spring training and Coyotes hockey!

Totally lucked out with Easter trip to Phoenix from Calgary! Gonna grab a single ticket, hopefully in the pit.
And maybes some Flames - Coyotes playoff hockey !

kaw753 · January 2020

nc_jammer1 said:

jstu39 said:

Saltzy23 said:

Is anyone else going to back to the Innings Festival this year to see DMB and Weezer?

I fell in love with that whole thing last year and am going back for warm weather, spring training baseball, and music.

It's an incredibly solid bang for the buck if you plan it right.

I think between credit card points and AirBnB I am spending like $1k for an entire week out there.

I live in Phoenix and will be there. Looking forward to OAR this year. Enjoyed Eddie last year.

Great time of year to visit and catch some Spring training and Coyotes hockey!

Totally lucked out with Easter trip to Phoenix from Calgary! Gonna grab a single ticket, hopefully in the pit.
And maybes some Flames - Coyotes playoff hockey !

Did they change it? Last year just wandered back and forth from Band Of Horses to Jimmy Eat World back to EV with just two open fields in front of the stages. Very nice spot and hit the Angels-A's spring training earlier in the day.

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