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bbiggs said:NewfieintheUSA said:tdawe said:In 2016, was the MSG pit Ten Club Only?
I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.0 -
JW269453 said:All these odds do is show me that there are not near as many paid members as people think. Since we were able to see how many tickets were held at each venue basic math can now be applied to find out roughly how many requests came in. Given the population in the northeast and only 2 shows you would think the odds would have been much worse for NY and Baltimore. Lets say they are holding 15k tickets for MSG (which is amazing), but if NY is at 57% odds that means roughly 26-27k ticket requests came in. Unless they have an odds system that is not factually based that is not that impressive given the insane population in that area and most members going for 2 tickets. I understand that putting in for only GA or only reserved skews the odds some, but not a crazy amount. What PJ did by securing more tickets was great because it gives members in those insane population density areas a much better shot and it doesn't matter where they play the public will grab up whats left in most cases. Win-win situation.
There may be fewer paid members than we think, but what is probably more likely is more people skip the shows or only see them in their home town. Probably fewer travel and see more than 1 show that we (or maybe just me) sometimes assume.0 -
IlliniGuy76 said:bbiggs said:NewfieintheUSA said:tdawe said:In 2016, was the MSG pit Ten Club Only?
I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.Columbus 6/24/03, Pittsburgh 9/28/05, Cleveland 5/20/06, Pittsburgh 6/23/06, Chicago 8/5/07, New York 6/24/08, New York 6/25/08, Hartford 6/27/08, Mansfield 6/28/08, Mansfield 6/30/08, EV D.C. 8/16/08, EV Chicago 8/22/08, EV Baltimore 6/14/09, Chicago 8/23/09, Philadelphia 10/27/09, Philadelphia 10/28/09, Philadelphia 10/30/09, Philadelphia 10/31/09, Columbus 5/6/10, Indianapolis 5/7/10, Cleveland 5/9/10, Buffalo 5/10/10, EV Detroit 6/26/11, Toronto 9/12/11, Hamilton 9/15/11, Pittsburgh 10/11/13, Buffalo 10/12/13, San Diego 11/21/13, Los Angeles 11/23/13, Los Angeles 11/24/13, Cincinnati 10/1/14, Detroit 10/16/14, New York 9/26/15, Greenville 4/16/16, Hampton 4/18/16, Columbia 4/21/16, Philadelphia 4/29/16, Chicago 8/20/16, Chicago 8/22/16, Denver 9/22/22, Los Angeles 5/21/240 -
NewfieintheUSA said:tdawe said:In 2016, was the MSG pit Ten Club Only?
I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.Camden 2 2006, Newark 2010, Barclays 2 2013, Central Park 2015, MSG 2 2016, Wrigley 1 2016, Rome 2018, Prague 2018, Asbury Park 2021, EV & Earthlings NYC 1 2022, MSG 2022, Louisville 2022, Dublin 2024, MSG 1 2024, MSG 2 20240 -
Kidcloudkicker said:IlliniGuy76 said:bbiggs said:NewfieintheUSA said:tdawe said:In 2016, was the MSG pit Ten Club Only?
I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
1995: 7/11 (Chicago) 2009: 8/23, 8/24 (Chicago) 2010: 5/9 (Cleveland) 2013 7/19 (Chicago) 2016: 4/9 (Miami), 5/1 (NYC), 8/20 & 8/22 (Chicago)
2018: 8/18 (Chicago) & 8/20 (Chicago) 2022: 9/11 (NYC), 9/18 (STL) 2023: 9/5 (Chicago), 9/7 (Chicago) 2024: 8/29 (Chicago), 8/31 (Chicago)0 -
Kidcloudkicker said:IlliniGuy76 said:bbiggs said:NewfieintheUSA said:tdawe said:In 2016, was the MSG pit Ten Club Only?
I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.0 -
Kidcloudkicker said:IlliniGuy76 said:bbiggs said:NewfieintheUSA said:tdawe said:In 2016, was the MSG pit Ten Club Only?
I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.Camden 2 2006, Newark 2010, Barclays 2 2013, Central Park 2015, MSG 2 2016, Wrigley 1 2016, Rome 2018, Prague 2018, Asbury Park 2021, EV & Earthlings NYC 1 2022, MSG 2022, Louisville 2022, Dublin 2024, MSG 1 2024, MSG 2 20240 -
Maybe the single ticket option really freed more tickets than seemed possible?
- 2006: Gorge 1
- 2009: Seattle 1
- 2013: Seattle
- 2016: Wrigley 1 & 2
- 2018: Seattle 1&2, Montana
- 2020: San Diego, LA 1&2, Oakland 1&2
- 2022: San Diego, LA 1&2, Fresno, Sacramento, Las Vegas, Denver
- 2024: Vancouver 1, Portland, Las Vegas 1&2, Seattle 1&2, Missoula, Dana Point 1 & 2
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mace1229 said:JW269453 said:All these odds do is show me that there are not near as many paid members as people think. Since we were able to see how many tickets were held at each venue basic math can now be applied to find out roughly how many requests came in. Given the population in the northeast and only 2 shows you would think the odds would have been much worse for NY and Baltimore. Lets say they are holding 15k tickets for MSG (which is amazing), but if NY is at 57% odds that means roughly 26-27k ticket requests came in. Unless they have an odds system that is not factually based that is not that impressive given the insane population in that area and most members going for 2 tickets. I understand that putting in for only GA or only reserved skews the odds some, but not a crazy amount. What PJ did by securing more tickets was great because it gives members in those insane population density areas a much better shot and it doesn't matter where they play the public will grab up whats left in most cases. Win-win situation.
There may be fewer paid members than we think, but what is probably more likely is more people skip the shows or only see them in their home town. Probably fewer travel and see more than 1 show that we (or maybe just me) sometimes assume.
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mace1229 said:JW269453 said:All these odds do is show me that there are not near as many paid members as people think. Since we were able to see how many tickets were held at each venue basic math can now be applied to find out roughly how many requests came in. Given the population in the northeast and only 2 shows you would think the odds would have been much worse for NY and Baltimore. Lets say they are holding 15k tickets for MSG (which is amazing), but if NY is at 57% odds that means roughly 26-27k ticket requests came in. Unless they have an odds system that is not factually based that is not that impressive given the insane population in that area and most members going for 2 tickets. I understand that putting in for only GA or only reserved skews the odds some, but not a crazy amount. What PJ did by securing more tickets was great because it gives members in those insane population density areas a much better shot and it doesn't matter where they play the public will grab up whats left in most cases. Win-win situation.
There may be fewer paid members than we think, but what is probably more likely is more people skip the shows or only see them in their home town. Probably fewer travel and see more than 1 show that we (or maybe just me) sometimes assume.0 -
TA243471 said:Maybe the single ticket option really freed more tickets than seemed possible?0
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djbrothers said:TA243471 said:Maybe the single ticket option really freed more tickets than seemed possible?0
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There will definitely be seats available on the verified fan presale for all the shows with 99 percent odds for reserved4.17.94 Paramount 9.28.96 Randall's Island 8.25.00 Jones Beach 4.28.03 Spectrum 7.5.03 Camden 7.6.03 Camden 07.08.03 MSG 07.09.03 MSG 7.12.03 Hershey 7.14.03 Holmdel 6.12.08 Tampa 10.19.13 Brooklyn 4.11.16 Tampa 5.1.16 MSG 5.2.16 MSG 8.7.16 Fenway 9.2.18 Fenway 9.4.18 Fenway 9.11.22 MSG 9.16.22 Nashville 9.18.23 Austin 9.19.23 Austin 9.3.24 MSG 9.4.24 MSG Fenway 9.15.24 Fenway 9.17.24 Hollywood 4.24.25 Nashville 5.6.25 Nashville 5.8.250
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dmbolp said:For DMB seat assignments have come weeks later with TICKETSTODAY (more shows = more weeks later), so matches with the 1/27 seat assignment date. I think this process is going to have other similarities to DMB's ticket process.0
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Saltzy23 said:Is anyone else going to back to the Innings Festival this year to see DMB and Weezer?
I fell in love with that whole thing last year and am going back for warm weather, spring training baseball, and music.
It's an incredibly solid bang for the buck if you plan it right.
I think between credit card points and AirBnB I am spending like $1k for an entire week out there.
Great time of year to visit and catch some Spring training and Coyotes hockey!0 -
CO278952 said:There will definitely be seats available on the verified fan presale for all the shows with 99 percent odds for reservedPittsburgh, PA September 28, 2005 || Washington, DC June 22, 2008 || Barstow, VA May 13, 2010 || Seattle, WA August 10, 2018 || Dana Point, CA September 29, 2018 (EV) || Dana Point, CA September 28, 2019 (EV) || Dana Point, CA September 25, 2021 (EV) || Dana Point, CA October 1, 2021 || Dana Point, CA October 2, 2021 || Chicago, IL August 29, 2024 || Pittsburgh, PA May 16, 2025 || Pittsburgh, PA May 18, 20250
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tempo_n_groove said:andyfarrimond said:tempo_n_groove said:SVRDhand13 said:I don’t even care about GA I just hope I can get into Balt and MSG at this point0
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jstu39 said:Saltzy23 said:Is anyone else going to back to the Innings Festival this year to see DMB and Weezer?
I fell in love with that whole thing last year and am going back for warm weather, spring training baseball, and music.
It's an incredibly solid bang for the buck if you plan it right.
I think between credit card points and AirBnB I am spending like $1k for an entire week out there.
Great time of year to visit and catch some Spring training and Coyotes hockey!
And maybes some Flames - Coyotes playoff hockey !
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nc_jammer1 said:jstu39 said:Saltzy23 said:Is anyone else going to back to the Innings Festival this year to see DMB and Weezer?
I fell in love with that whole thing last year and am going back for warm weather, spring training baseball, and music.
It's an incredibly solid bang for the buck if you plan it right.
I think between credit card points and AirBnB I am spending like $1k for an entire week out there.
Great time of year to visit and catch some Spring training and Coyotes hockey!
And maybes some Flames - Coyotes playoff hockey !0
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