Iran Deal, the reset..... and halt

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  • tbergs said:
    Right? I completely agree. Trump should have never been allowed to be a president.
    dignin said:
    I agree, Trump shouldn't be in charge of anything.

    2 peas in a pod...

    I agree with you but sorry, Trump shouldn't be blamed.

    Obama should be blamed then for the Iran nuclear deal because he should have been smart enough with future visions of this happening so shame on him.

    See how stupid this all sounds?
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,998
    edited January 2020
    2 peas in a pod...

    I agree with you but sorry, Trump shouldn't be blamed.

    Obama should be blamed then for the Iran nuclear deal because he should have been smart enough with future visions of this happening so shame on him.

    See how stupid this all sounds?
    Trump should definitely not be blamed if the story is true.  Iran is solely responsible.  Just like the shooter is to blam


    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
    2 peas in a pod...

    I agree with you but sorry, Trump shouldn't be blamed.

    Obama should be blamed then for the Iran nuclear deal because he should have been smart enough with future visions of this happening so shame on him.

    See how stupid this all sounds?
    Use common sense, his actions are way more direct than that. As always, bending over backwards to defend him.

    Regardless, our PM sure was hinting in a press conference that he thinks that America shares some blame. Never outright said it. I guess the reporters asking those questions must be stupid too.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,895
    The nuclear deal was working all of this didn’t have to happen! 
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
    mcgruff10 said:
    Trump should definitely not be blamed if the story is true.  Iran is solely responsible.  Just like the shooter is to blam


    The bartender serving the drinks has been held responsible in court many times. See how this works?

  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,279
    edited January 2020
    mcgruff10 said:
    Trump should definitely not be blamed if the story is true.  Iran is solely responsible.  Just like the shooter is to blam


    Good thing you removed those analogies. You would have suffered the same fate as I did yesterday with constant criticism. I'd still blame the brewery though ;)
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
    tbergs said:
    Good thing you removed those analogies. You would have suffered the same fate as I did yesterday with constant criticism ;)
    Haha. I just noticed they were edited.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,092
    of course the plane wouldn't have been shot down had Trump not been the initial aggressor. I think we can all agree on that. However, it seems NO ONE wants to hold the iranian military responsible for pulling the trigger. Which I find quite odd. Is it because everyone is just so interested in blaming trump for everything? there's plenty of blame to go around. it's not all on him. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • dignin said:
    Use common sense, his actions are way more direct than that. As always, bending over backwards to defend him.

    Regardless, our PM sure was hinting in a press conference that he thinks that America shares some blame. Never outright said it. I guess the reporters asking those questions must be stupid too.
    If it was common sense then most people would have it but people blindly blame Trump for literally everything.

    I only defend what should be obvious.  You have a whole slew of reporters that can't stand Trump.  You think for a second that if they can make some sort of connection in the slightest to blame him for something they won't?

    That's not smart that's brilliantly biased.
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,302
    This is a plane that originally departed from the Tehran airport. It's 100% Iran's responsibility. Trump has done plenty wrong, but it's not a zero sum game.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,895
    You are correct! Point taken ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
    Go back to my first comment. You will notice that I said he was partly responsible. So don't say NO ONE.

    It's obvious Iran shares the blame. That doesn't give the instigator a pass.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
    Read the thread.

    https://twitter.com/sethabramson/status/1215337524064915456?s=12

    Thanks Hannity, playing your part.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,734
    dignin said:
    Go back to my first comment. You will notice that I said he was partly responsible. So don't say NO ONE.

    It's obvious Iran shares the blame. That doesn't give the instigator a pass.
    Iran "shares" the blame if they shot down a passenger plane that left their airport and was over their country?  I'd say they get 99% at least.

    Not to excuse the idiot president that created the tension for the idiot and dangerous stuff he has done.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,092
    dignin said:
    Go back to my first comment. You will notice that I said he was partly responsible. So don't say NO ONE.

    It's obvious Iran shares the blame. That doesn't give the instigator a pass.
    oh FFS, fine. ALMOST NO ONE. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
    If it was common sense then most people would have it but people blindly blame Trump for literally everything.

    I only defend what should be obvious.  You have a whole slew of reporters that can't stand Trump.  You think for a second that if they can make some sort of connection in the slightest to blame him for something they won't?

    That's not smart that's brilliantly biased.
    Says the guy that still thinks Trump did nothing wrong withholding aid from Ukraine for political gain. If we want to bring up brilliantly biased.
  • dignin said:
    Read the thread.

    https://twitter.com/sethabramson/status/1215337524064915456?s=12

    Thanks Hannity, playing your part.
    The Iranian govt. watches Fox news and more importantly Sean Hannity for military info?  God help us all...

    Hannity is an idiot too.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,998
    tbergs said:
    Good thing you removed those analogies. You would have suffered the same fate as I did yesterday with constant criticism. I'd still blame the brewery though ;)
    Yeah I was having a tberg moment lol
    forget the analogies, I m big on putting blame on the person who does the action.  No way trump shares the blame on this one.  



    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,998
    dignin said:
    The bartender serving the drinks has been held responsible in court many times. See how this works?

    I edited it. Nothing to see here. ;)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
    pjl44 said:
    This is a plane that originally departed from the Tehran airport. It's 100% Iran's responsibility. Trump has done plenty wrong, but it's not a zero sum game.
    Sure, if you willfully ignore all the events that led up to and surrounded the tragedy. I'm sure historians will look at it that way, why would anyone be interested in context?
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
    The Iranian govt. watches Fox news and more importantly Sean Hannity for military info?  God help us all...

    Hannity is an idiot too.
    They would be stupid not to, after all he does advise the president and is in constant communication with him. If anyone is in the know.

    And I agree, Spaghetti Monster, help us all.


  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,734
    dignin said:
    Sure, if you willfully ignore all the events that led up to and surrounded the tragedy. I'm sure historians will look at it that way, why would anyone be interested in context?
    Hahaha this is pretty comical really.  So, now that Iran sent ballistic missiles at americans, if Trump shoots down a plane over one of those bases that is carrying americans, it's Iran's fault?   
    hippiemom = goodness
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,092
    Man beats wife within an inch of her life, leaves the house
    wife is shaken up, unsure what to do. 
    wife hears someone coming up the driveway, she panics, finds gun. it's dark, she assumes it's him
    she comes outside, shoots and fires and kills the person in the driveway. 
    except it wasn't her husband. it was their neighbour. 

    who in this situation gets charged with the death of the neighbour, and goes to trial?
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,302
    Man, even if two countries are in a full-on hot war and Country A shoots down a civilian airplane, that shit is on Country A
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
    Hahaha this is pretty comical really.  So, now that Iran sent ballistic missiles at americans, if Trump shoots down a plane over one of those bases that is carrying americans, it's Iran's fault?   
    You respond to a comment about ignoring context with a comment ignoring context. Congratulations on the most useless comment in this thread today, but it's still early, I'm sure you have more.
  • dignin said:
    Says the guy that still thinks Trump did nothing wrong withholding aid from Ukraine for political gain. If we want to bring up brilliantly biased.
    Difference is I see it differently, the Ukraine thing, sorry not sorry.  That's not biased that's me arguing that I don't see it like you do.

    I am in the center man, don't get confused over a few things you don't particularly like about where I stand.
  • dignin said:
    They would be stupid not to, after all he does advise the president and is in constant communication with him. If anyone is in the know.

    And I agree, Spaghetti Monster, help us all.


    The plane left from their own airport and airspace...
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,092
    why is it if anyone makes a comment that in any way doesn't want to put trump to death, they are automatically biased/supporter/uninformed/etc? 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,998
    The plane left from their own airport and airspace...
    Right, it was heading away from Tehran.  I know you all hate trump but man to somehow pin partial blame on him?  That is crazy. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
    why is it if anyone makes a comment that in any way doesn't want to put trump to death, they are automatically biased/supporter/uninformed/etc? 
    Why is it you always use hyperbole? 
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