#PJLP11 | Breaking news: Pearl Jam are in studio working on a new album

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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    JW269453 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    JW269453 said:
    Fun Fact
    Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.
    What?! Never realized that.  
    Lets just say they were late bloomers. Dark Side of the Moon was their eighth album, and the rest is history.
    Late bloomers!?!?

    Holy fucking shit, man. The Wall was also their penultimate album with at least one guy who could still write decent songs.

    The Piper at the Gates of Dawn    , A Saucerful of Secrets, and Meddle FTW!!!
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,380
    Zod said:
    JW269453 said:
    Fun Fact
    Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.
    I think the further back you go, the more frequent bands release albums.    It's crazy to look at some of the output of older bands:

    The Beatles put out 12 albums in 8 years
    The Doors whole career was in 4 years with 6 albums

    I'm sure the list could go on.    I chose those two for easy support of my argument.

    I actually wonder about today's musicians.  Not all tracks from classic rock bands are genius.   Some times it's the shear quantity.  A few solid tracks on every album, and you've got a bunch of albums, you can make a steller setlist.

    Bands of today seem less frequent with albums.  As per this thread PJ in their first 10 years were pretty prolific but still less than a number of 60's bands.   Bands of today make money touring, so albums can be sparse.   Problem is bands seem to make their best music in their earlier years.   If you're not putting out albums how do you get to that point where you can rock out for 2-3 hours with amazing songs every one knows.


    Most people are also only buying single tracks from iTunes these days. I get the hesitation in producing new music at the same pace this late in the game when you can just tour with a catalog like PJ already has.
  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,380
    dankind said:
    JW269453 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    JW269453 said:
    Fun Fact
    Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.
    What?! Never realized that.  
    Lets just say they were late bloomers. Dark Side of the Moon was their eighth album, and the rest is history.
    Late bloomers!?!?

    Holy fucking shit, man. The Wall was also their penultimate album with at least one guy who could still write decent songs.

    The Piper at the Gates of Dawn    , A Saucerful of Secrets, and Meddle FTW!!!
    I'm not saying there wasn't anything worthy prior to DSotM, but I think most would agree that is when they found what worked best. They obviously had their struggles as a band and which direction to go was probably the biggest.
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    JW269453 said:
    dankind said:
    JW269453 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    JW269453 said:
    Fun Fact
    Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.
    What?! Never realized that.  
    Lets just say they were late bloomers. Dark Side of the Moon was their eighth album, and the rest is history.
    Late bloomers!?!?

    Holy fucking shit, man. The Wall was also their penultimate album with at least one guy who could still write decent songs.

    The Piper at the Gates of Dawn    , A Saucerful of Secrets, and Meddle FTW!!!
    I'm not saying there wasn't anything worthy prior to DSotM, but I think most would agree that is when they found what worked best. They obviously had their struggles as a band and which direction to go was probably the biggest.
    Most would agree that is when they found what worked best for radio airplay.
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    dankind said:
    JW269453 said:
    dankind said:
    JW269453 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    JW269453 said:
    Fun Fact
    Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.
    What?! Never realized that.  
    Lets just say they were late bloomers. Dark Side of the Moon was their eighth album, and the rest is history.
    Late bloomers!?!?

    Holy fucking shit, man. The Wall was also their penultimate album with at least one guy who could still write decent songs.

    The Piper at the Gates of Dawn    , A Saucerful of Secrets, and Meddle FTW!!!
    I'm not saying there wasn't anything worthy prior to DSotM, but I think most would agree that is when they found what worked best. They obviously had their struggles as a band and which direction to go was probably the biggest.
    Most would agree that is when they found what worked best for radio airplay.
    agree. I bought a Pink Floyd RS magazine a while back, and RW seemed obsessed with what would make them famous. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,554
    edited September 2019
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dankind said:
    JW269453 said:
    dankind said:
    JW269453 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    JW269453 said:
    Fun Fact
    Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.
    What?! Never realized that.  
    Lets just say they were late bloomers. Dark Side of the Moon was their eighth album, and the rest is history.
    Late bloomers!?!?

    Holy fucking shit, man. The Wall was also their penultimate album with at least one guy who could still write decent songs.

    The Piper at the Gates of Dawn    , A Saucerful of Secrets, and Meddle FTW!!!
    I'm not saying there wasn't anything worthy prior to DSotM, but I think most would agree that is when they found what worked best. They obviously had their struggles as a band and which direction to go was probably the biggest.
    Most would agree that is when they found what worked best for radio airplay.
    agree. I bought a Pink Floyd RS magazine a while back, and RW seemed obsessed with what would make them famous. 


    The Floyd's big 4 from Dark Side to the Wall were a streak of groundbreaking albums at the time. When that streak began, nothing on the radio sounded  like it imo.

    They became much more focused on Dark Side and radio programmers followed. Surprisingly, Gilmour was a huge influence on that focused style.
  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,380
    dankind said:
    JW269453 said:
    dankind said:
    JW269453 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    JW269453 said:
    Fun Fact
    Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.
    What?! Never realized that.  
    Lets just say they were late bloomers. Dark Side of the Moon was their eighth album, and the rest is history.
    Late bloomers!?!?

    Holy fucking shit, man. The Wall was also their penultimate album with at least one guy who could still write decent songs.

    The Piper at the Gates of Dawn    , A Saucerful of Secrets, and Meddle FTW!!!
    I'm not saying there wasn't anything worthy prior to DSotM, but I think most would agree that is when they found what worked best. They obviously had their struggles as a band and which direction to go was probably the biggest.
    Most would agree that is when they found what worked best for radio airplay.
    I guess it's all relative to what you or I consider "working", but they would not be held in the same regard today had they stopped at 7 albums. I feel that their radio play was a result of becoming so unique they couldn't be ignored, not because they started sounded safe and familiar for radio stations to finally jump on the Floyd bandwagon. My comment of them being late bloomers was not meant to offend anyone, sorry if I did.
  • CPR7
    CPR7 Stade de France, July 10, 2016 Posts: 379
    edited September 2019
    Fuck 14 new posts and they're all about Pink Floyd  :o
    EDIT: I do love me some PF...shit I guess this is another PF post. As you were...
    Post edited by CPR7 on
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,971
    JW269453 said:
    Zod said:
    JW269453 said:
    Fun Fact
    Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.
    I think the further back you go, the more frequent bands release albums.    It's crazy to look at some of the output of older bands:

    The Beatles put out 12 albums in 8 years
    The Doors whole career was in 4 years with 6 albums

    I'm sure the list could go on.    I chose those two for easy support of my argument.

    I actually wonder about today's musicians.  Not all tracks from classic rock bands are genius.   Some times it's the shear quantity.  A few solid tracks on every album, and you've got a bunch of albums, you can make a steller setlist.

    Bands of today seem less frequent with albums.  As per this thread PJ in their first 10 years were pretty prolific but still less than a number of 60's bands.   Bands of today make money touring, so albums can be sparse.   Problem is bands seem to make their best music in their earlier years.   If you're not putting out albums how do you get to that point where you can rock out for 2-3 hours with amazing songs every one knows.


    Most people are also only buying single tracks from iTunes these days. I get the hesitation in producing new music at the same pace this late in the game when you can just tour with a catalog like PJ already has.
    Absolutely.  But then it becomes a chicken and the egg problem.  We can't sell albums, so we're only going to do those every 3 or 4 years, or we're going to release singles here and there.

    Then you have live shows, but not a lot of material to draw from.   While you might not make much from albums, I think they greatly benefit live shows.    Especially in your peak years if those albums are amazing front to back.  What would pearl jam live shows be like if they only put out 2 or 3 albums (or 10 to 20 songs) in their first 10 years.    

    Which makes sense for the 2nd part of your sentence.   Absolutely.   If you spend the first 10 or 20 years of your career making amazing music, then you've already hit that point where you have more than enough amazing songs to fill a setlist and tour indefinitely.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,554
    CPR7 said:
    Fuck 14 new posts and they're all about Pink Floyd  :o
    EDIT: I do love me some PF...shit I guess this is another PF post. As you were...

    I think we can assume no news unless we see 100+ new posts in Porch.

    Or get an alt nation update in my news feed. Then I know there's news.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,694
    JW269453 said:
    dankind said:
    JW269453 said:
    dankind said:
    JW269453 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    JW269453 said:
    Fun Fact
    Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.
    What?! Never realized that.  
    Lets just say they were late bloomers. Dark Side of the Moon was their eighth album, and the rest is history.
    Late bloomers!?!?

    Holy fucking shit, man. The Wall was also their penultimate album with at least one guy who could still write decent songs.

    The Piper at the Gates of Dawn    , A Saucerful of Secrets, and Meddle FTW!!!
    I'm not saying there wasn't anything worthy prior to DSotM, but I think most would agree that is when they found what worked best. They obviously had their struggles as a band and which direction to go was probably the biggest.
    Most would agree that is when they found what worked best for radio airplay.
    I guess it's all relative to what you or I consider "working", but they would not be held in the same regard today had they stopped at 7 albums. I feel that their radio play was a result of becoming so unique they couldn't be ignored, not because they started sounded safe and familiar for radio stations to finally jump on the Floyd bandwagon. My comment of them being late bloomers was not meant to offend anyone, sorry if I did.
    Yeah, if they had stopped or kept going in the same direction after Obscured by Clouds, I think they have a similar trajectory as King Crimson. Amazing catalogue, tremendous career, but not selling out stadiums. 
  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166

    Eddie Vedder ‘Finishing’ With Pearl Jam Revealed

    https://www.alternativenation.net/eddie-vedder-finishing-pearl-jam-revealed/

  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,103
    FR181798 said:

    Eddie Vedder ‘Finishing’ With Pearl Jam Revealed

    https://www.alternativenation.net/eddie-vedder-finishing-pearl-jam-revealed/

    Glen Hansard... outed by Alternative Nation. 
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  • verceman
    verceman Posts: 704
    Eddie allude to anything while onstage at Ohana?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    my god that site has turned into such a pile of shit. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    my god that site has turned into such a pile of shit. 
    Turned? Was it ever any good? 
  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    my god that site has turned into such a pile of shit. 
    From the headline I thought he was quitting the band.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,620
    FR181798 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    my god that site has turned into such a pile of shit. 
    From the headline I thought he was quitting the band.
    The most effective clickbait always shocks you into clicking.
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  • Lost In Ohio
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    I suppose someone could easily include Mirrorball in there as well. Even though it's technically a Neil Young record, it still involved 80% of the band, plus Eddie on two songs.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    PJNB said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    my god that site has turned into such a pile of shit. 
    Turned? Was it ever any good? 
    yeah, in the beginning, when it was grunge report, and then shortly after he changed to alt nation. he didn't used to have clickbait headlines. but i guess he learned that's how you make money. 
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