#PJLP11 | Breaking news: Pearl Jam are in studio working on a new album

dankind

JW269453 said:

JPPJ84 said:

JW269453 said:

Fun Fact

Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.

What?! Never realized that.  

Lets just say they were late bloomers. Dark Side of the Moon was their eighth album, and the rest is history.

Late bloomers!?!?

Holy fucking shit, man. The Wall was also their penultimate album with at least one guy who could still write decent songs.

The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, A Saucerful of Secrets, and Meddle FTW!!!

FiveBelow

Zod said:

JW269453 said:

Fun Fact

Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.

I think the further back you go, the more frequent bands release albums.    It's crazy to look at some of the output of older bands:

The Beatles put out 12 albums in 8 years
The Doors whole career was in 4 years with 6 albums

I'm sure the list could go on.    I chose those two for easy support of my argument.

I actually wonder about today's musicians.  Not all tracks from classic rock bands are genius.   Some times it's the shear quantity.  A few solid tracks on every album, and you've got a bunch of albums, you can make a steller setlist.

Bands of today seem less frequent with albums.  As per this thread PJ in their first 10 years were pretty prolific but still less than a number of 60's bands.   Bands of today make money touring, so albums can be sparse.   Problem is bands seem to make their best music in their earlier years.   If you're not putting out albums how do you get to that point where you can rock out for 2-3 hours with amazing songs every one knows.

Most people are also only buying single tracks from iTunes these days. I get the hesitation in producing new music at the same pace this late in the game when you can just tour with a catalog like PJ already has.

FiveBelow

dankind said:

JW269453 said:

JPPJ84 said:

JW269453 said:

Fun Fact

Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.

What?! Never realized that.  

Lets just say they were late bloomers. Dark Side of the Moon was their eighth album, and the rest is history.

Late bloomers!?!?

Holy fucking shit, man. The Wall was also their penultimate album with at least one guy who could still write decent songs.

The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, A Saucerful of Secrets, and Meddle FTW!!!

I'm not saying there wasn't anything worthy prior to DSotM, but I think most would agree that is when they found what worked best. They obviously had their struggles as a band and which direction to go was probably the biggest.

dankind

JW269453 said:

dankind said:

JW269453 said:

JPPJ84 said:

JW269453 said:

Fun Fact

Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.

What?! Never realized that.  

Lets just say they were late bloomers. Dark Side of the Moon was their eighth album, and the rest is history.

Late bloomers!?!?

Holy fucking shit, man. The Wall was also their penultimate album with at least one guy who could still write decent songs.

The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, A Saucerful of Secrets, and Meddle FTW!!!

I'm not saying there wasn't anything worthy prior to DSotM, but I think most would agree that is when they found what worked best. They obviously had their struggles as a band and which direction to go was probably the biggest.

Most would agree that is when they found what worked best for radio airplay.

HughFreakingDillon

dankind said:

JW269453 said:

dankind said:

JW269453 said:

JPPJ84 said:

JW269453 said:

Fun Fact

Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.

What?! Never realized that.  

Lets just say they were late bloomers. Dark Side of the Moon was their eighth album, and the rest is history.

Late bloomers!?!?

Holy fucking shit, man. The Wall was also their penultimate album with at least one guy who could still write decent songs.

The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, A Saucerful of Secrets, and Meddle FTW!!!

I'm not saying there wasn't anything worthy prior to DSotM, but I think most would agree that is when they found what worked best. They obviously had their struggles as a band and which direction to go was probably the biggest.

Most would agree that is when they found what worked best for radio airplay.

agree. I bought a Pink Floyd RS magazine a while back, and RW seemed obsessed with what would make them famous. 

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

dankind said:

JW269453 said:

dankind said:

JW269453 said:

JPPJ84 said:

JW269453 said:

Fun Fact

Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.

What?! Never realized that.  

Lets just say they were late bloomers. Dark Side of the Moon was their eighth album, and the rest is history.

Late bloomers!?!?

Holy fucking shit, man. The Wall was also their penultimate album with at least one guy who could still write decent songs.

The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, A Saucerful of Secrets, and Meddle FTW!!!

I'm not saying there wasn't anything worthy prior to DSotM, but I think most would agree that is when they found what worked best. They obviously had their struggles as a band and which direction to go was probably the biggest.

Most would agree that is when they found what worked best for radio airplay.

agree. I bought a Pink Floyd RS magazine a while back, and RW seemed obsessed with what would make them famous. 

The Floyd's big 4 from Dark Side to the Wall were a streak of groundbreaking albums at the time. When that streak began, nothing on the radio sounded  like it imo.

They became much more focused on Dark Side and radio programmers followed. Surprisingly, Gilmour was a huge influence on that focused style.

FiveBelow

dankind said:

JW269453 said:

dankind said:

JW269453 said:

JPPJ84 said:

JW269453 said:

Fun Fact

Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.

What?! Never realized that.  

Lets just say they were late bloomers. Dark Side of the Moon was their eighth album, and the rest is history.

Late bloomers!?!?

Holy fucking shit, man. The Wall was also their penultimate album with at least one guy who could still write decent songs.

The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, A Saucerful of Secrets, and Meddle FTW!!!

I'm not saying there wasn't anything worthy prior to DSotM, but I think most would agree that is when they found what worked best. They obviously had their struggles as a band and which direction to go was probably the biggest.

Most would agree that is when they found what worked best for radio airplay.

I guess it's all relative to what you or I consider "working", but they would not be held in the same regard today had they stopped at 7 albums. I feel that their radio play was a result of becoming so unique they couldn't be ignored, not because they started sounded safe and familiar for radio stations to finally jump on the Floyd bandwagon. My comment of them being late bloomers was not meant to offend anyone, sorry if I did.

CPR7

Fuck 14 new posts and they're all about Pink Floyd 
EDIT: I do love me some PF...shit I guess this is another PF post. As you were...

Zod

JW269453 said:

Zod said:

JW269453 said:

Fun Fact

Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.

I think the further back you go, the more frequent bands release albums.    It's crazy to look at some of the output of older bands:

The Beatles put out 12 albums in 8 years
The Doors whole career was in 4 years with 6 albums

I'm sure the list could go on.    I chose those two for easy support of my argument.

I actually wonder about today's musicians.  Not all tracks from classic rock bands are genius.   Some times it's the shear quantity.  A few solid tracks on every album, and you've got a bunch of albums, you can make a steller setlist.

Bands of today seem less frequent with albums.  As per this thread PJ in their first 10 years were pretty prolific but still less than a number of 60's bands.   Bands of today make money touring, so albums can be sparse.   Problem is bands seem to make their best music in their earlier years.   If you're not putting out albums how do you get to that point where you can rock out for 2-3 hours with amazing songs every one knows.

Most people are also only buying single tracks from iTunes these days. I get the hesitation in producing new music at the same pace this late in the game when you can just tour with a catalog like PJ already has.

Absolutely.  But then it becomes a chicken and the egg problem.  We can't sell albums, so we're only going to do those every 3 or 4 years, or we're going to release singles here and there.

Then you have live shows, but not a lot of material to draw from.   While you might not make much from albums, I think they greatly benefit live shows.    Especially in your peak years if those albums are amazing front to back.  What would pearl jam live shows be like if they only put out 2 or 3 albums (or 10 to 20 songs) in their first 10 years.    

Which makes sense for the 2nd part of your sentence.   Absolutely.   If you spend the first 10 or 20 years of your career making amazing music, then you've already hit that point where you have more than enough amazing songs to fill a setlist and tour indefinitely.

Lerxst1992

CPR7 said:

Fuck 14 new posts and they're all about Pink Floyd 
EDIT: I do love me some PF...shit I guess this is another PF post. As you were...

I think we can assume no news unless we see 100+ new posts in Porch.

Or get an alt nation update in my news feed. Then I know there's news.

pjl44

JW269453 said:

dankind said:

JW269453 said:

dankind said:

JW269453 said:

JPPJ84 said:

JW269453 said:

Fun Fact

Pink Floyd's eleventh studio album was The Wall.

What?! Never realized that.  

Lets just say they were late bloomers. Dark Side of the Moon was their eighth album, and the rest is history.

Late bloomers!?!?

Holy fucking shit, man. The Wall was also their penultimate album with at least one guy who could still write decent songs.

The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, A Saucerful of Secrets, and Meddle FTW!!!

I'm not saying there wasn't anything worthy prior to DSotM, but I think most would agree that is when they found what worked best. They obviously had their struggles as a band and which direction to go was probably the biggest.

Most would agree that is when they found what worked best for radio airplay.

I guess it's all relative to what you or I consider "working", but they would not be held in the same regard today had they stopped at 7 albums. I feel that their radio play was a result of becoming so unique they couldn't be ignored, not because they started sounded safe and familiar for radio stations to finally jump on the Floyd bandwagon. My comment of them being late bloomers was not meant to offend anyone, sorry if I did.

Yeah, if they had stopped or kept going in the same direction after Obscured by Clouds, I think they have a similar trajectory as King Crimson. Amazing catalogue, tremendous career, but not selling out stadiums. 

FR181798

Eddie Vedder ‘Finishing’ With Pearl Jam Revealed

https://www.alternativenation.net/eddie-vedder-finishing-pearl-jam-revealed/

on2legs

FR181798 said:

Eddie Vedder ‘Finishing’ With Pearl Jam Revealed

https://www.alternativenation.net/eddie-vedder-finishing-pearl-jam-revealed/

Glen Hansard... outed by Alternative Nation. 

verceman

Eddie allude to anything while onstage at Ohana?

HughFreakingDillon

my god that site has turned into such a pile of shit. 

PJNB

HughFreakingDillon said:

my god that site has turned into such a pile of shit. 

Turned? Was it ever any good? 

FR181798

HughFreakingDillon said:

my god that site has turned into such a pile of shit. 

From the headline I thought he was quitting the band.

JimmyV

FR181798 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

my god that site has turned into such a pile of shit. 

From the headline I thought he was quitting the band.

The most effective clickbait always shocks you into clicking.

Lost In Ohio

TripleB said:

1990 
1991 Ten
1992
1993 Vs
1994 Vitalogy 
1995
1996 No Code
1997 
1998 Yield 
1999
2000 Binaural
2001
2002 Riot Act
2003
2004
2005
2006 Pearl Jam
2007
2008
2009 Backspacer
2010
2011
2012
2013 Lightning Bolt
2014
2015
2016
2017
2018
2019
2020 New Album

Like Max (Peter Falk) said in “Made,” “Is there a pattern forming here?”

I suppose someone could easily include Mirrorball in there as well. Even though it's technically a Neil Young record, it still involved 80% of the band, plus Eddie on two songs.

HughFreakingDillon

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

my god that site has turned into such a pile of shit. 

Turned? Was it ever any good? 

yeah, in the beginning, when it was grunge report, and then shortly after he changed to alt nation. he didn't used to have clickbait headlines. but i guess he learned that's how you make money.