2020 Tour Rumor Thread

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Mike D88 said:
    JimmyV said:
    I don't care where they play. I will never skip a Boston show again. Too few days ahead to get torn up over the venue.
    Boston was an incredible experience, I don't get all the complaining. We've all seen that video from outside Fenway right?
    I really don't either. But...to each their own. 
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  • eboweddie
    eboweddie Posts: 1,091
    I've a feeling Europe will be skipped.  Will have to travel.
     

    i wish i wish i wish i wish, i guess it never stops
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I can't imagine skipping a show of my favourite band (or one of my favourites) just because of the venue. Especially if there was no travel involved. But I have only seen them 5 times in 30 years. maybe that's the difference?
    Yeah, I know I've been privileged and lucky to have seen them a bunch of times, and maybe why I'm a little picky these days. I'm older and have less patience for hordes of idiots, so the bigger the venue the less thrilled I am. I also have seen them at amazing venues like the Showbox, Gorge and Benaroya, so at this point an arena is the largest place I can imagine wanting to see them. I also don't get the thrill I used to out of seeing them, probably a combination of me changing, and the performances being different. Add to that the risk of paying hundreds of dollars for obstructed views half a mile away from the stage, and there is very little to tempt me to hit up a ballpark show. Pearl Jam is still one of the best live acts out there, but stadiums/ballparks just don't have any draw for me no matter who is playing.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    NewJPage said:
    If it's stadiums I might voluntarily skip a tour for the first time since I started going to pj shows in 98. Do not have much desire to do the Wrigley thing AGAIN. 
    I would really be disappointed if it's just the stadium/ballpark tour again.

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    Give us a real tour. 

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  • BB162610
    BB162610 Upstate NY Posts: 541
    I have been to all four Fenway shows, the original Wrigley show, the home shows and Missoula last summer.  Hands down, Fenway knows how to put on a show, easy to get in and out of, lines are reasonable etc. I can understand folks not being happy with obstructed view seats, I have been fortunate to always be on the field.

    Wrigley 13 was fun and special, but I wouldn't travel for it again unless it was the only show that year.  Safeco was my first trip to Seattle and we had a blast, the shows were great but I don't think we would go back for another stadium show.  They have a lot of bugs to work out if they are going to continue to host shows.  Missoula was an awesome town to visit and experience, but again, not sure I would travel back for a stadium show.  

    Stadium shows are definitely better than none.  I have seen the band 50 times, its hard to believe that 1 out of every 6ish of those shows have been in a stadium.  I really miss the sheds.    
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    jeffbr said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I can't imagine skipping a show of my favourite band (or one of my favourites) just because of the venue. Especially if there was no travel involved. But I have only seen them 5 times in 30 years. maybe that's the difference?
    Yeah, I know I've been privileged and lucky to have seen them a bunch of times, and maybe why I'm a little picky these days. I'm older and have less patience for hordes of idiots, so the bigger the venue the less thrilled I am. I also have seen them at amazing venues like the Showbox, Gorge and Benaroya, so at this point an arena is the largest place I can imagine wanting to see them. I also don't get the thrill I used to out of seeing them, probably a combination of me changing, and the performances being different. Add to that the risk of paying hundreds of dollars for obstructed views half a mile away from the stage, and there is very little to tempt me to hit up a ballpark show. Pearl Jam is still one of the best live acts out there, but stadiums/ballparks just don't have any draw for me no matter who is playing.
    wow, that is incredible. 
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  • NDJeff7
    NDJeff7 Posts: 216
    I was at both Fenway shows last year, and while they were good shows, the curfew really made it tough. It didn't help that they didn't come on stage either night until almost 8pm, so songs had to be cut out of the setlist to make the 10:30pm curfew. The sound was great, but for the curfew alone, I'd prefer an arena over Fenway anyday.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    NDJeff7 said:
    I was at both Fenway shows last year, and while they were good shows, the curfew really made it tough. It didn't help that they didn't come on stage either night until almost 8pm, so songs had to be cut out of the setlist to make the 10:30pm curfew. The sound was great, but for the curfew alone, I'd prefer an arena over Fenway anyday.
    Fair, although the band could have and should have gone on earlier. 
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  • NDJeff7
    NDJeff7 Posts: 216
    JimmyV said:
    NDJeff7 said:
    I was at both Fenway shows last year, and while they were good shows, the curfew really made it tough. It didn't help that they didn't come on stage either night until almost 8pm, so songs had to be cut out of the setlist to make the 10:30pm curfew. The sound was great, but for the curfew alone, I'd prefer an arena over Fenway anyday.
    Fair, although the band could have and should have gone on earlier. 
    Agreed, the ticket said 6:30 but I figured it would be around 7:15/7:30 before they actually went on. The crowd was getting pretty restless when it got close to 8, knowing that they'd be done by 10:30.

    I think I'm just slightly bitter that Sonic Reducer got scratched and it's been on my bucket list for 25 years to see live :)
  • kaw753
    kaw753 Posts: 941
    JimmyV said:
    NDJeff7 said:
    I was at both Fenway shows last year, and while they were good shows, the curfew really made it tough. It didn't help that they didn't come on stage either night until almost 8pm, so songs had to be cut out of the setlist to make the 10:30pm curfew. The sound was great, but for the curfew alone, I'd prefer an arena over Fenway anyday.
    Fair, although the band could have and should have gone on earlier. 
    I was at a Springsteen show in the suburbs of Prague at a football stadium that had a hard 10pm curfew. We wandered out on stage at 6:30pm and played a 30 minute acoustic set as a warm up. 
  • ravillorias
    ravillorias Paris Posts: 459
    eboweddie said:
    I've a feeling Europe will be skipped.  Will have to travel.
     
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    :-/
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    NDJeff7 said:
    I was at both Fenway shows last year, and while they were good shows, the curfew really made it tough. It didn't help that they didn't come on stage either night until almost 8pm, so songs had to be cut out of the setlist to make the 10:30pm curfew. The sound was great, but for the curfew alone, I'd prefer an arena over Fenway anyday.
    They did everything they could to freak you out on the start time and get in there early. The opening band thing is a separate thread but I would have LOVED an opener for those shows.
  • bendhair23
    bendhair23 Posts: 114
    I forgot to use the sarcasm font. My apologies. Dimi thanks for responding and for all the hints over the years. At the end of the day, it will all come down to a different set of pros and cons for each of us. Here's to new music and tours in the near future. 
  • NDJeff7
    NDJeff7 Posts: 216
    pjl44 said:
    NDJeff7 said:
    I was at both Fenway shows last year, and while they were good shows, the curfew really made it tough. It didn't help that they didn't come on stage either night until almost 8pm, so songs had to be cut out of the setlist to make the 10:30pm curfew. The sound was great, but for the curfew alone, I'd prefer an arena over Fenway anyday.
    They did everything they could to freak you out on the start time and get in there early. The opening band thing is a separate thread but I would have LOVED an opener for those shows.
    Agreed, have a solid opening band from 6:30-7:15 and then they come on at 7:45.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    NDJeff7 said:
    pjl44 said:
    NDJeff7 said:
    I was at both Fenway shows last year, and while they were good shows, the curfew really made it tough. It didn't help that they didn't come on stage either night until almost 8pm, so songs had to be cut out of the setlist to make the 10:30pm curfew. The sound was great, but for the curfew alone, I'd prefer an arena over Fenway anyday.
    They did everything they could to freak you out on the start time and get in there early. The opening band thing is a separate thread but I would have LOVED an opener for those shows.
    Agreed, have a solid opening band from 6:30-7:15 and then they come on at 7:45.
    If you want to stagger the crowd and get people in the doors early, put another band or two on the bill. Someone like Buffalo Tom would have been perfect. 
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    pjl44 said:
    NDJeff7 said:
    pjl44 said:
    NDJeff7 said:
    I was at both Fenway shows last year, and while they were good shows, the curfew really made it tough. It didn't help that they didn't come on stage either night until almost 8pm, so songs had to be cut out of the setlist to make the 10:30pm curfew. The sound was great, but for the curfew alone, I'd prefer an arena over Fenway anyday.
    They did everything they could to freak you out on the start time and get in there early. The opening band thing is a separate thread but I would have LOVED an opener for those shows.
    Agreed, have a solid opening band from 6:30-7:15 and then they come on at 7:45.
    If you want to stagger the crowd and get people in the doors early, put another band or two on the bill. Someone like Buffalo Tom would have been perfect. 
    Especially considering they brought him on stage both nights. 
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,853
    RP112579 said:
    JimmyV said:
    I don't care where they play. I will never skip a Boston show again. Too few days ahead to get torn up over the venue.
    Exactly. Imagine being so bitter about the venue that anyone would skip a show in their own city. Wrigley is a dump, but if they play there, I'll be there.
    It isn't about being "bitter" about the venue.

    It is a matter of the experience not being enough of a payoff for the money and time involved.  Some people still like it.  That's fine.  Others dislike the experience and it isn't worth even the ticket price.  If it were in my town (it wont be), I would attend.

    And part of it is seeing too many shows, quality shows and being spoiled... if not somewhat fatigued and selective.  
  • verceman
    verceman Posts: 700
    If dimi is going dark on us I guess I can stop refreshing this forum so damned often.  
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    If they play ballparks and fans travel like 2018 and charge roughly $120 for tickets, most of the money traveling fans spend goes to hotels and airlines. But not to Pearl Jam. I dont understand this business model.

    If they play more arenas/sheds and charge a premium for the smaller venue experience, it is more likely fans will not need to spend the majority of money on hotels and airlines.

    That way, most of the money goes where it belongs, to the band.

    They would need to change another common tactic. When the album comes out give fans an idea of what countries and states they expect to hit over the new album tour cycle (say 75 shows over 3 or 4 years).

    That's how Elton did his Goodbye tour. (he is doing a TON of shows over 4 years ;) )

    That  way we wouldn't be scrambling for expensive airline and hotels and most of our money would go to PJ. Just charge us what its worth to see them in an arena. As usual, I must be missing something.
  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    edited September 2019
    MayDay10 said:
    RP112579 said:
    JimmyV said:
    I don't care where they play. I will never skip a Boston show again. Too few days ahead to get torn up over the venue.
    Exactly. Imagine being so bitter about the venue that anyone would skip a show in their own city. Wrigley is a dump, but if they play there, I'll be there.
    It isn't about being "bitter" about the venue.

    It is a matter of the experience not being enough of a payoff for the money and time involved.  Some people still like it.  That's fine.  Others dislike the experience and it isn't worth even the ticket price.  If it were in my town (it wont be), I would attend.

    And part of it is seeing too many shows, quality shows and being spoiled... if not somewhat fatigued and selective.  
    Yeah, this.

    For me...the difference between the United Center and Wrigley Field is major travel. 

    The United Center....I drive up, park and I am in.  I'm out and home in half an hour. 

    For Wrigley...I have to drive, park.  Walk or bus to a train.  Take the train, then walk through a horde of people to get to Wrigley.  Then I have to deal with sightlines, weather, sound, etc.   If there are no delays...I have to leave my house at 3:30 or so...and I dont get home until past 2am.  And these shows always seemed to fall on or around the first day of school...and some on Monday nights. 

    I have been to all 5 Wrigley shows....and 40% OF THEM had Rain Delays.  Arenas dont have that problem.  I don't mind them playing certain ballparks as an "Experience" type of scenario....thats why in 2013 when they announced Wrigley, I was legit excited....and I stuck around during the massive rain delay.     Then I was excited when they came back in 2016 and did proper shows, based on the rain delays from 2013.   In 2018....I was like, "ugh, really?".   In 2020, I will be less than thrilled, but I will be there. 

    Heck...I even saw them at Lollapaloza...even though i HATE HATE HATE festivals.   We were in the crowd for about half of their performance, then got sick of the crazies and went and sat along the side, on the hill and just enjoyed the air and the music.  So I would even go to Lolla again if they went...but I would not be in the crowd of humanity. 
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