Eating Less Meat Helps Protect the Planet From Climate Change
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meat dumps and veg dumps are quite different.
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Smellyman said:meat dumps and veg dumps are quite different.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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Smellyman said:meat dumps and veg dumps are quite different.Peace,Love and Pearl Jam.0
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The Amazon is burning because the world eats so much meat
While the wildfires raging in the Amazon rainforest may constitute an "international crisis," they are hardly an accident.The vast majority of the fires have been set by loggers and ranchers to clear land for cattle. The practice is on the rise, encouraged by Jair Bolsonaro, Brazil's populist pro-business president, who is backed by the country's so-called "beef caucus."While this may be business as usual for Brazil's beef farmers, the rest of the world is looking on in horror.So, for those wondering how they could help save the rainforest, known as "the planet's lungs" for producing about 20% of the world's oxygen, the answer may be simple. Eat less meat.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/23/americas/brazil-beef-amazon-rainforest-fire-intl/index.html"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
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Ofc the US is ranking as "shitty as hell" when it comes to this metric too. When will they ever surprise in a positive way? For being "the greatest experiment on earth" they sure are shit in many, many ways.
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got something from this decade?
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https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/281411/eating-less-meat-helps-protect-the-planet-from-climate-change/p1
https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/281519/the-amazon-rain-forest-is-on-fire-and-no-one-is-talking-about-it/p1
Can never have enough threads on the same topic...of course maybe this is a grab for attention.
I eat Canadian meat...not SA.Post edited by Meltdown99 onGive Peas A Chance…0 -
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Spiritual_Chaos said:
Also, after visiting the site (https://plantricianproject.org/food-math-101), I have more comments.
-The only source for anything to do with land-use yields are two books - one called "Diet for a Small Planet" written in 1971 by Moore, one called "Diet for a New America" written in 1987 by Robbins.
-"Diet for a Small Planet" is falsely claimed to be written in 1982 - it was in fact written in 1971, which is important because...
-The sourcing explains, "[Moore's] numbers were 3.25 acres which equals 2.5 football fields; so we used a more conservative two football fields assuming that some agricultural efficiencies have been gained since 1982." While I don't know about the agricultural efficiency changes between those two dates, Our World in Data tells a story of massive efficiency boosts - https://ourworldindata.org/yields-and-land-use-in-agriculture
Finally, how many people does this mean we need to convince to move to a plant-based diet? And how are the efficiencies if we can't get everyone on board? What about the cost to repurpose the land for new crops, who bears those? And why should chicken coops decide to close down and pivot to kale? In terms of the abundance of livestock we have today, should we slaughter them all and have a big barbecue, to at least prevent the ongoing expulsion of methane (would vegans participate in that? It's ethically motivated), or will the new vegans adopt pet cows? How will we mitigate protein deficiencies and dietary training when we can't get that right even when we can chemically alter food so it tastes good - how are you going to sell a fat kid on arugula and tofu when he's used to KFC that his parents fed him regularly? And how much time have we got again?
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Eat your plant diet and I’ll eat meat...Give Peas A Chance…0
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Meltdown99 said:Eat your plant diet and I’ll eat meat....
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Are we talking American football field, Canadian, indoor, or soccer? All are very different.0
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rgambs said:Meltdown99 said:1 thing...the price of meat here in Canada has to be forcing people to eat less meat.
I am very fitness-oriented and very conscious of my protein intake, and it would cost me a fortune, almost double, to get the same level of protein without meat.
We do meatless meals 2-3 times a week and we are trying to take it another step forward, but it's tough.0 -
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Smellyman said:brianlux said:It's always interesting to me when someone makes a true statement like "Eating less meat helps protect the planet from climate change", and then other people get on the post and start talking about how much they like meat. Well yeah, OK fine, but what does that have to do with the fact presented in the statement?PJPOWER said:My family and most in my neck of the woods use regenerative ranching practices, so I’m going to eat a steak that my family raised tonight and not feel guilty about it in the least:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilyeoh/2018/04/14/going-vegan-eating-sustainable-beef-can-be-good-for-the-environment/Because people are dicks.I am vegan, but never mention I am to people anymore because invariably they start saying 'I am going to eat a burger, love dead cow. Or bacon give me some pig. hahaha yum yum yum.'
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mace1229 said:Are we talking American football field, Canadian, indoor, or soccer? All are very different.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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Go Beavers said:rgambs said:Meltdown99 said:1 thing...the price of meat here in Canada has to be forcing people to eat less meat.
I am very fitness-oriented and very conscious of my protein intake, and it would cost me a fortune, almost double, to get the same level of protein without meat.
We do meatless meals 2-3 times a week and we are trying to take it another step forward, but it's tough.
Yogurt isn't a problem so that's nice because it's inexpensive and has a very good protein/calorie ratio.
I shoot for 160g/day but usually fall short.
Good quality meat is expensive, for sure, but tuna packets and CAFO chicken breasts are cheap as shit.
Good quality produce is absolutely more expensive than cheap meat and provides less nutritional benefit.
To boot, good quality fruits and vegetables are next to impossible to buy in many places, the Midwest being one of them.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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