2020 Tour Rumor Thread

JojoRice · August 2019

Here in the Atlanta area we've got several stadiums they could use...SunTrust Park (Braves), Mercedez Benz (Falcons), Georgia Tech, Georgia State (Formerly Turner Field for the Braves) , and Sanford Stadium in Athens (UGA). So any time of the year could work here.

MayDay10 · August 2019

Zod said:

MayDay10 said:

mcgruff10 said:

on2legs said:

Under the bleachers at Wrigley during the rain delay was bad.

Agreed. If I am traveling for a show it better be indoors.

Between needing to travel and costs associated with it (along with tickets now approaching $500 for 2 shows). Merch at these things becoming a no-fly zone. Then getting to the venue is kind of a slog. Crowded streets, lines to get in, etc. Then the venue itself being over-taxed. All to be much further away with tons of open air and a diminished experience. That, along with the whole thing hanging there at the complete mercy of weather. It isn't really worth it (to me).

I agree with all those things. I was getting so accustomed to stadium shows (PJ or otherwise), then it was night and day difference between safeco last august, and foo fighters at GM place in Vancouver. The arena felt smaller and more intimate than I recall (and I've seen a lot of shows there). Lineups seemed small and insigificant... it was amazing.

I completely agree that Arena's are Better than Stadiums if only because every is smaller and more reasonable. On the flip side if PJ tours are going to continue to be small I think they have to play stadiums or it's going to be tough getting tickets to anything.

Maybe Amphitheaters are a compromise?

Maybe it is a byproduct of seeing Pearl Jam like 27 times, but at Wrigley last year, it just felt like I was just there for another notch in the belt and the show itself was just going through the motions and didn't give me that 'rush'. Granted, night one, I was about 350 feet away, couldn't see 1/3 of the stage, and the sound was bouncy.... and night 2 I was in GA, but was surrounded by borderline sketchy behavior (also including selfie-fest-2018 going on in front of me), not to mention the delay and everything that goes with it. That whole experience isn't worth over $1000 for me I don't think.

Recently, I went to The Claypool Lennon Delirium and The Flaming Lips at a local concert venue and my mind was blown. I haven't gotten that kind of adrenaline from a show and the days following since the last time I saw Pearl Jam in an arena, the Binaural show in Toronto in 2016.
Oh wait. Primus in 2018 was pretty epic too for me. But Claypool Lennon Delirium may be the best live act I have ever seen.

JimmyV · August 2019

The thing about amphitheaters is that so many of them are way out of the way and not easily accessible except by car through traffic. If they play Fenway it's right in Boston and close to hotels, parking and public transportation. If they play Mansfield it becomes a huge pain getting in and out.

dankind · August 2019

JimmyV said:

The thing about amphitheaters is that so many of them are way out of the way and not easily accessible except by car through traffic. If they play Fenway it's right in Boston and close to hotels, parking and public transportation. If they play Mansfield it becomes a huge pain getting in and out.

Fuck Mansfield!

Edit: Unless someone else is driving. In that case, play Mansfield!

JimmyV · August 2019

dankind said:

JimmyV said:

The thing about amphitheaters is that so many of them are way out of the way and not easily accessible except by car through traffic. If they play Fenway it's right in Boston and close to hotels, parking and public transportation. If they play Mansfield it becomes a huge pain getting in and out.

Fuck Mansfield!

Edit: Unless someone else is driving. In that case, play Mansfield!

I'm nodding.

pjhawks · August 2019

JimmyV said:

If they do branch out to other ballpark and stadium venues, I hope they choose ones with history. Safeco is an exception because of the Seattle connection, but Fenway and Wrigley were special in part because of how historic those places are. Dodger Stadium would be cool. Maybe Lambeau Field.

I still think at some point they will play Citizens Bank Park in Philly. I'd much prefer two or three nights inside at Wells Fargo though.

rummy · August 2019

The day off between the ballpark shows is what gets me. Aside from tickets (and merch, if you are into that sort of thing) that extra night increases my travel cost by about fifty percent!

RS65573 · August 2019

rummy said:

The day off between the ballpark shows is what gets me. Aside from tickets (and merch, if you are into that sort of thing) that extra night increases my travel cost by about fifty percent!

It does but thats another reason to go, to also see that city.

bbiggs · August 2019

RS65573 said:

rummy said:

The day off between the ballpark shows is what gets me. Aside from tickets (and merch, if you are into that sort of thing) that extra night increases my travel cost by about fifty percent!

It does but thats another reason to go, to also see that city.

Agreed. The day between shows in Boston last year was my favorite day of the trip by far. I wouldn’t have been there if not for PJ playing. That said, bring back arenas. If I travel to an arena show I’ll still have a day to see the city I’m in. Win, win.

JimmyV · August 2019

pjhawks said:

JimmyV said:

If they do branch out to other ballpark and stadium venues, I hope they choose ones with history. Safeco is an exception because of the Seattle connection, but Fenway and Wrigley were special in part because of how historic those places are. Dodger Stadium would be cool. Maybe Lambeau Field.

I still think at some point they will play Citizens Bank Park in Philly. I'd much prefer two or three nights inside at Wells Fargo though.

Not my preference but I do, too. I think Citizens Bank is a natural fit for them if they expand the ballpark shows. Much more likely they play there than Yankee Stadium or Citi Field, IMO.

RS65573 · August 2019

JimmyV said:

pjhawks said:

JimmyV said:

If they do branch out to other ballpark and stadium venues, I hope they choose ones with history. Safeco is an exception because of the Seattle connection, but Fenway and Wrigley were special in part because of how historic those places are. Dodger Stadium would be cool. Maybe Lambeau Field.

I still think at some point they will play Citizens Bank Park in Philly. I'd much prefer two or three nights inside at Wells Fargo though.

Not my preference but I do, too. I think Citizens Bank is a natural fit for them if they expand the ballpark shows. Much more likely they play there than Yankee Stadium or Citi Field, IMO.

I agree, but who the heck wants to spend 3 days in Phily? Not me. Even in 09, I went and came back 4x, 2 hours each way. That city cant have my over night dollars.

wbutler29 · August 2019

Tough believing they will go back to arena tours after ballpark success. They can hit Australia or S. America early in the year, couple of festivals in Europe in the late spring early summer, then maybe six ballparks (2 nights each) in the large US cities in the late summer/early fall. Chicago, Boston, LA, Seattle, Denver, Atlanta.

pjl44 · August 2019

dankind said:

JimmyV said:

The thing about amphitheaters is that so many of them are way out of the way and not easily accessible except by car through traffic. If they play Fenway it's right in Boston and close to hotels, parking and public transportation. If they play Mansfield it becomes a huge pain getting in and out.

Fuck Mansfield!

Edit: Unless someone else is driving. In that case, play Mansfield!

VIP parking is the way to go there. I barely go anymore but get it every time I do. Worth every penny when you cruise right out.

Lerxst1992 · August 2019

eboweddie said:

You have hit the nail on the head. Why do 20 arena shows in 9 or 10 cities. When you can do 6 baseball stadium shows in 2 cities. And fans will come from the 4 corners.

Or play arenas and charge market value.

At least arena shows have a semblance of intimacy with the music.

Lerxst1992 · August 2019

nycrats said:

Noload said:

I think they will spread out at least to some swing states leading up to Trump's re-election.

While this would NEVER happen, imagine if bands played the opposite election strategy?

instead of playing before and trying to spread the word, say they’ll ONLY play such and such a state after the election, if said state wins.

Strictly hypothetically, but the combo of voters being lazy/uninspired and music fans being desperate, and 3 states were decided by some 70k votes, I have to think the prospect of seeing great music would blackmail voters. If PJ proposed this they may get an extra 10k people to vote (their way) if not more. Now say REM promises reunion shows maybe they’ll get even more, Bruce gives the ultimatum to tour there’s another who knows how many more, and then imagine talking heads saying they’ll only reunite for shows if they get their result, it’s not crazy to imagine musicians blackmailing an election in 4 or 5 close states.

Its ass backwards and not very “American” but it actually could work...(not trying to get political and it would be a very ugly and hostile environment I know, just looking at it hypothetically from a numbers point as a die hard music fan. More of a social experiment than a real way of life)

If you look at how the wealthy have manipulated the "free" markets and "free speech political bribery" in their favor over the last 100 years I challenge you to explain:

1. How that's "American" and

2. how beloved liberal
musicians doing something in retaliation is any different.

D-Rod · August 2019

Stadium, arena , amphitheater!!!!! At this point I would travel to Rummy’s backyard for a show.

100 Pacer · August 2019

pjl44 said:

dankind said:

JimmyV said:

The thing about amphitheaters is that so many of them are way out of the way and not easily accessible except by car through traffic. If they play Fenway it's right in Boston and close to hotels, parking and public transportation. If they play Mansfield it becomes a huge pain getting in and out.

Fuck Mansfield!

Edit: Unless someone else is driving. In that case, play Mansfield!

VIP parking is the way to go there. I barely go anymore but get it every time I do. Worth every penny when you cruise right out.

I remember we parked across the street from the main entrance? There was this random residential road tucked away. Bit of a walk but saved a bunch of time getting out.

pjl44 · August 2019

100 Pacer said:

pjl44 said:

dankind said:

JimmyV said:

The thing about amphitheaters is that so many of them are way out of the way and not easily accessible except by car through traffic. If they play Fenway it's right in Boston and close to hotels, parking and public transportation. If they play Mansfield it becomes a huge pain getting in and out.

Fuck Mansfield!

Edit: Unless someone else is driving. In that case, play Mansfield!

VIP parking is the way to go there. I barely go anymore but get it every time I do. Worth every penny when you cruise right out.

I remember we parked across the street from the main entrance? There was this random residential road tucked away. Bit of a walk but saved a bunch of time getting out.

Yeah, that would definitely work. Hats off to you on that one. I would be scared to death of being towed.

JimmyV · August 2019

pjl44 said:

100 Pacer said: up

pjl44 said:

dankind said:

JimmyV said:

The thing about amphitheaters is that so many of them are way out of the way and not easily accessible except by car through traffic. If they play Fenway it's right in Boston and close to hotels, parking and public transportation. If they play Mansfield it becomes a huge pain getting in and out.

Fuck Mansfield!

Edit: Unless someone else is driving. In that case, play Mansfield!

VIP parking is the way to go there. I barely go anymore but get it every time I do. Worth every penny when you cruise right out.

I remember we parked across the street from the main entrance? There was this random residential road tucked away. Bit of a walk but saved a bunch of time getting out.

Yeah, that would definitely work. Hats off to you on that one. I would be scared to death of being towed.

Same. I'd never be able to relax enough to enjoy the show.

100 Pacer · August 2019

pjl44 said:

100 Pacer said:

pjl44 said:

dankind said:

JimmyV said:

The thing about amphitheaters is that so many of them are way out of the way and not easily accessible except by car through traffic. If they play Fenway it's right in Boston and close to hotels, parking and public transportation. If they play Mansfield it becomes a huge pain getting in and out.

Fuck Mansfield!

Edit: Unless someone else is driving. In that case, play Mansfield!

VIP parking is the way to go there. I barely go anymore but get it every time I do. Worth every penny when you cruise right out.

I remember we parked across the street from the main entrance? There was this random residential road tucked away. Bit of a walk but saved a bunch of time getting out.

Yeah, that would definitely work. Hats off to you on that one. I would be scared to death of being towed.

Funny enough I parked and immediately looked at the signage. Everything indicated it was legal so I was comfortable. Ended up parking there for both shows with no issues.

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