Thoughts on political stuff at shows

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  • Vedder316
    Vedder316 Posts: 205
    Open wrote:
    I didnt put words in your mouth "I think what we are doing over there is a great justice for the world over." that is a quote from you. I think the dead would disagree with you.

    Man thats sad. Never once did I support the death of the situation and I think the other would agree with me.(thoughts from others?) Its sad that you would sink that low to prove a point. Sounds like you have had happier times. I hope things get better for ya.
    Many many wonderful shows, since day one.
    Love ya Punkinfur
  • Vedder316
    Vedder316 Posts: 205
    I just watched the VH1 storytellers and man did Ed really explain the whole topic of the original questions raised in my very 1st post. The question asked was........"How do you about having a contingency of fans that have different ideologies than all of you". After Ed says F**k em (LOL) his answer really is a good one. Open maybe you should you should follow Ed's words of wisdom. "I RESPECT OTHERS OPNIONS"!!!!!!
    Many many wonderful shows, since day one.
    Love ya Punkinfur
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I love the sections where Ed chats to the crowd. I think they add to the shows, and he often makes connections with the audience. They also individualise every show and make them more memorable.
    As far as his politics goes...why shouldn't he talk about Bush e.t.c? The worlds being fucked by these people. The more people highlight this fact, the better.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Vedder316 wrote:
    Iam not saying that he banters on and on. Iam just saying the negativity that Eddie displays sometimes in his messages just brings the show down a bit.

    I don't ever get any negativity from Ed or the rest of the band. What negativity are you talking about? Care to provide an example? Even when he talks politics he still manags to ingest some humour into it. I see him as a naturally positive fella, not a negative type.
  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    Vedder316 wrote:
    I just watched the VH1 storytellers and man did Ed really explain the whole topic of the original questions raised in my very 1st post. The question asked was........"How do you about having a contingency of fans that have different ideologies than all of you". After Ed says F**k em (LOL) his answer really is a good one. Open maybe you should you should follow Ed's words of wisdom. "I RESPECT OTHERS OPNIONS"!!!!!!


    I respect your opinion, but when it's one that supports the death of innocents...the respect is very minimal.

    P.S. I really do think Ed meant the fuckem. How can you go jam out to something that's against your beliefs? It's like going to a KKK rally to find god.
  • Vedder316
    Vedder316 Posts: 205
    Open wrote:
    I respect your opinion, but when it's one that supports the death of innocents...the respect is very minimal.
    P.S. I really do think Ed meant the fuckem. How can you go jam out to something that's against your beliefs? It's like going to a KKK rally to find god.


    AGAIN I never said i support the "death" just the cause. Please support you claims. I could easily stoop to the level you did and spin your above comments and say..... "Open supports the KKK or supports the death because he respects my opinion. But I will not do that. So you think Ed was lying to everyone with what he said after the fuckem quote? So in regards to that you support someone you believe lies to the people he speaks to?? Dont you find that to be a tad hypocritical considering the subject we've been having a piss contest about? Have a good one.
    Many many wonderful shows, since day one.
    Love ya Punkinfur
  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    Vedder316 wrote:
    AGAIN I never said i support the "death" just the cause. Please support you claims. I could easily stoop to the level you did and spin your above comments and say..... "Open supports the KKK or supports the death because he respects my opinion. But I will not do that. So you think Ed was lying to everyone with what he said after the fuckem quote? So in regards to that you support someone you believe lies to the people he speaks to?? Dont you find that to be a tad hypocritical considering the subject we've been having a piss contest about? Have a good one.

    The policy you support, results in the death of thousands. Maybe if you see that you will stop supporting it. I never said you support the kkk it was an anology. Im not going to agree with every word eddie has to say, my feelings about the war and those who support it were formed through many conversations with those people, not with what eddie had to say. Regarding your lying example, it's a desperate reach. Singing along to bushleager while supporting bush is quite different than eddie saying fuckm half meaning it while going on to explain that he hoped it causes them to do research and educate themselves about the subject. WHich is basically what i told you .
  • Vedder316
    Vedder316 Posts: 205
    Open wrote:
    The policy you support, results in the death of thousands. Maybe if you see that you will stop supporting it. I never said you support the kkk it was an anology. Im not going to agree with every word eddie has to say, my feelings about the war and those who support it were formed through many conversations with those people, not with what eddie had to say. Regarding your lying example, it's a desperate reach. Singing along to bushleager while supporting bush is quite different than eddie saying fuckm half meaning it while going on to explain that he hoped it causes them to do research and educate themselves about the subject. WHich is basically what i told you .


    Man open I dont think we will ever agree on much. I did educate myself and formed my own opinion. Just because it not the same as yours does not mean iam not educated. This is not about who is right and wrong. We are both just trying to out each other. We both have different beliefs and opinions in which we will never agree. But should our differences cause us to be negative towards each other? Their is really no use bantering back and forth. It would be never ending. I respect you for being so strong in your beliefs and standing up for them. I applaud your desire to express your own thoughts and to stand up for what you believe in. Your a great American for doing so. I do apologize for letting the discussion get into a pissing contest. Thats not what it all about. Hopefully we can be an example to all the negativity that usually accompanies discussions like ours and agree that we disagree. But please realize that just because i support the war does not mean iam am saddened deeply by anyone that has been hurt by hardships of war. Take care.

    Matt
    Many many wonderful shows, since day one.
    Love ya Punkinfur

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