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  • New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    mickeyrat said:
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    so it comes down to, to what severity do we establish a deport order is? Is it serious felony worthy? You know, where teams are sent out on arrest warrants? Or more along the misdemeanor, we'll arrest you when we come across you.

    Given most immigration offenses are civil in nature( I think) and not criminal, unless the deport orders come as a result of adjudicated criminal acts, should there be these raids?

    further, just who are they targeting here? What of the ones who have appealed? Are they under threat? Given this admins direction , I would say there is no distinction.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/14/politics/ice-raids-undocumented-immigrants/index.html
    Acting US Citizenship and Immigration Services director Ken Cuccinelli took issue with referring to the targets of the raids as undocumented.
    "They're not undocumented. They've got a court order on a piece of paper -- federal order -- that says they've gotten due process, and (there are) over a million people with removal orders. That's the pool that ICE is drawing from," he told CNN.

    So they've had due process and have been asked to leave but still haven't.  I'm wondering if this would even be newsworthy under any other President.  
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    mcgruff10 said:
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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/14/politics/ice-raids-undocumented-immigrants/index.html
    Acting US Citizenship and Immigration Services director Ken Cuccinelli took issue with referring to the targets of the raids as undocumented.
    "They're not undocumented. They've got a court order on a piece of paper -- federal order -- that says they've gotten due process, and (there are) over a million people with removal orders. That's the pool that ICE is drawing from," he told CNN.

    So they've had due process and have been asked to leave but still haven't.  I'm wondering if this would even be newsworthy under any other President.  
    whats come since he was sworn in lends to that kind of scrutiny. rightly so.  We simply cant give benefit of doubt. Maybe at first, but that ending within the first week.
    So look for the stories where ONLY those specifically sought after under these orders were apprehended and sent back BUT no one else at the same apprehension.

    And Cuccinelli is using "undocumented" in a shitheel way. It should go without saying what it mrans in immigration context.

    Lastly, will the admin exercise the same zeal in those who have overstayed a visa of whatever type?

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  • Posts: 31,463
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    How did this "illegal immigrants is part of the very foundation of our work force" come to be in the states?

    I find it quite weird, the notion of having a bunch of people in a country, without knowing who they are and where... and also them being able to work. 

    Do they pay taxes on their income? How does that work?
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  • Posts: 16,830
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    How did this "illegal immigrants is part of the very foundation of our work force" come to be in the states?

    I find it quite weird, the notion of having a bunch of people in a country, without knowing who they are and where... and also them being able to work. 

    Do they pay taxes on their income? How does that work?
    Since the employer is required to take taxes out of their paychecks, yes in general most are paying income taxes.  And of course paying sales tax when they purchase things.

    AS for having so many illegal immigrants in the country, most come in legal and overstay.  It's pretty embarrassing really.  Of course if you try to find them and deport them you are called a racist, so probably why our politicians have sit back and watched as this mess has gotten worse and worse.
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    mickeyrat said:
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    whats come since he was sworn in lends to that kind of scrutiny. rightly so.  We simply cant give benefit of doubt. Maybe at first, but that ending within the first week.
    So look for the stories where ONLY those specifically sought after under these orders were apprehended and sent back BUT no one else at the same apprehension.

    And Cuccinelli is using "undocumented" in a shitheel way. It should go without saying what it mrans in immigration context.

    Lastly, will the admin exercise the same zeal in those who have overstayed a visa of whatever type?


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  • Posts: 31,574
    https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/is-illegal-immigration-linked-to-more-or-less-crime/
    uhmm !
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  • Posts: 31,574
    So are immigrants more violent ? 
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  • Posts: 16,830
    josevolution said:
    So are immigrants more violent ? 
    Which 'immigrants' are you talking about? 
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  • Posts: 16,830
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/politics/republicans-who-criticize-trump-immigration-analysis/index.html

    Interesting article.  Kinda obvious I guess but hadn't thought about it.  We are becoming more and more polarized with each election.
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  • Posts: 31,574
    cincybearcat said:
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    Which 'immigrants' are you talking about? 
    Southern immigrants Central Americans 
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  • Posts: 30,879
    cincybearcat said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/politics/republicans-who-criticize-trump-immigration-analysis/index.html

    Interesting article.  Kinda obvious I guess but hadn't thought about it.  We are becoming more and more polarized with each election.
    While true, somewhat irrelevant.  The House can pass a reform bill without the moderates.  It's the Senate that is the issue, both on legislation and Trump's language.  What happened to Collins, Gardner, Murkowski, Graham and the rest of the moderate to rational Republicans in the Senate?
  • Posts: 16,830
    mrussel1 said:
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    While true, somewhat irrelevant.  The House can pass a reform bill without the moderates.  It's the Senate that is the issue, both on legislation and Trump's language.  What happened to Collins, Gardner, Murkowski, Graham and the rest of the moderate to rational Republicans in the Senate?
    In a broader sense though...moderates being run out of the government.  Only the former fringe  surviving.  Doesn't make for a very good government.
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  • Posts: 30,879
    cincybearcat said:
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    In a broader sense though...moderates being run out of the government.  Only the former fringe  surviving.  Doesn't make for a very good government.
    Yes agreed.  Purity tests piss me off. 
  • Posts: 42,090
    Why aren’t we building a wall along the Canadian border again? Oh, that’s right, Team Trump Treason is in office.

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  • None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Can build a fence if you want.  Good luck putting up the fence in the Detroit River, Lake Erie, Lake Superior, Lake Huron, St. Clair. River...etc.LMFAO
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  • Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    It would seem to me that if one of the top Customs and Border Patrol agent is not sure if a three year old child is a "criminal or national security threat", he might not be the best person for the job. I'm no border patrol agent, but I think I know what threats a three year old poses (to sleep, sanity, and patience) and what threats she doesn't (national security). 

    This and other tidbits came out in the testimony of the Chief of law enforcement for CBP this week. Lies and obfuscations seemed to abound.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/cbp-chief-brian-hastings-family-separation-judiciary-hearing-not-mueller.html

    Hastings also claimed that Francisco Galicia, an 18 year old US citizen who was apprehended at the border and held for a month, did not inform border patrol of his citizenship, which is odd, because border patrol also claimed that they held him because they believed he was "falsely claiming US citizenship". 

    https://thehill.com/latino/454837-border-patrol-official-testifies-citizen-who-was-detained-for-nearly-a-month-didnt-say
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    oftenreading said:
    It would seem to me that if one of the top Customs and Border Patrol agent is not sure if a three year old child is a "criminal or national security threat", he might not be the best person for the job. I'm no border patrol agent, but I think I know what threats a three year old poses (to sleep, sanity, and patience) and what threats she doesn't (national security). 

    This and other tidbits came out in the testimony of the Chief of law enforcement for CBP this week. Lies and obfuscations seemed to abound.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/cbp-chief-brian-hastings-family-separation-judiciary-hearing-not-mueller.html

    Hastings also claimed that Francisco Galicia, an 18 year old US citizen who was apprehended at the border and held for a month, did not inform border patrol of his citizenship, which is odd, because border patrol also claimed that they held him because they believed he was "falsely claiming US citizenship". 

    https://thehill.com/latino/454837-border-patrol-official-testifies-citizen-who-was-detained-for-nearly-a-month-didnt-say
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    https://www.alternativenation.net/eddie-vedder-family-reveal-heartbreaking-emergency/
    Def don’t like the title of this article but the point stands ! 
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    It was only a matter of time before someone acted in response to this supposed “invasion.”  


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