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  • otter
    otter Posts: 772
    Immigration should be; safe, legal, and rare. 
    The US should help people make their own homes better not create push factors and pull factors at the same time. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    otter said:
    Immigration should be; safe, legal, and rare. 
    We might be 0-3 on that one. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,684
    Baffoon is spending over 2million on his fucking parade yet the immigrants are in conditions that compare to mass chicken production farms , this is not America the greatest country anymore ! 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,684
    josevolution said:
    Baffoon is spending over 2million on his fucking parade yet the immigrants are in conditions that compare to mass chicken production farms , this is not America the greatest country anymore ! 
    Everyday I’m posting this !
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,533
    this kid has a concept. its called empathy...


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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,488
    edited July 2019
    Has the UN or any big international organizations said anything about these "if they die... they die *shoulder shrug*-camps?

    Doesn't sound like a thing for a democracy, to have kids dying like this and it just being what... a part of it all?

    Absurd, infuriating and sad.

    "Well, if we vote this administration out in the next election we can stop children from being murdered by the active neglect" doesn't seem like it should be the solution to a crime like this.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,684
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Has the UN or any big international organizations said anything about these "if they die... they die *shoulder shrug*-camps?

    Doesn't sound like a thing for a democracy, to have kids dying like this and it just being what... a part of it all?

    Absurd, infuriating and sad.

    "Well, if we vote this administration out in the next election we can stop children from being murdered by the active neglect" doesn't seem like it should be the solution to a crime like this.
    That’s exactly their stance if immigrants die it’s on them they shouldn’t of attempted to come here , it’s overcrowded to bad , they need beds fuck’em , towels fuck that let them just dry themselves with their clothes !!
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,488
    josevolution said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Has the UN or any big international organizations said anything about these "if they die... they die *shoulder shrug*-camps?

    Doesn't sound like a thing for a democracy, to have kids dying like this and it just being what... a part of it all?

    Absurd, infuriating and sad.

    "Well, if we vote this administration out in the next election we can stop children from being murdered by the active neglect" doesn't seem like it should be the solution to a crime like this.
    That’s exactly their stance if immigrants die it’s on them they shouldn’t of attempted to come here , it’s overcrowded to bad , they need beds fuck’em , towels fuck that let them just dry themselves with their clothes !!
    Sick. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,684
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    josevolution said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Has the UN or any big international organizations said anything about these "if they die... they die *shoulder shrug*-camps?

    Doesn't sound like a thing for a democracy, to have kids dying like this and it just being what... a part of it all?

    Absurd, infuriating and sad.

    "Well, if we vote this administration out in the next election we can stop children from being murdered by the active neglect" doesn't seem like it should be the solution to a crime like this.
    That’s exactly their stance if immigrants die it’s on them they shouldn’t of attempted to come here , it’s overcrowded to bad , they need beds fuck’em , towels fuck that let them just dry themselves with their clothes !!
    Sick. 
    It’s disheartening disgraceful disgusting as an immigrant myself I feel repulsed !
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,371
    Anyone going to watch the big round up tomorrow? Maybe head down to one of your local restaurants or minority majority neighborhoods and cheer ICE on? Anyone? Maybe they’ll raid the churches? Who’s going to church tomorrow?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,371
    Who’s going to point them out? Drop a dime and do your patriotic duty? Any true Americans on here? Making a list and checking it twice? Maybe someone you’ve known for years but, you know, they didn’t follow the rules? Maybe wear your MAGA arm band tomorrow? I hear if you do that you’ll be invited to a parade.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,684
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Who’s going to point them out? Drop a dime and do your patriotic duty? Any true Americans on here? Making a list and checking it twice? Maybe someone you’ve known for years but, you know, they didn’t follow the rules? Maybe wear your MAGA arm band tomorrow? I hear if you do that you’ll be invited to a parade.
    I’m staying indoors my brown ass ain’t getting caught in no net , even though I have an American passport they probably would say it’s not legit and send my ass back to Mexico 🇲🇽..
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    From what I read they are going after those ordered deported already?  What are they suppose to do, not enforce the law?  It's no different than police arresting someone who has a warrant out for your arrest...if you been ordered out and don't go you are breaking the law.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    Yeah I don’t like the blitz approach here, but I’m not sure we should be ignoring laws.


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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Lindsey Graham “doesn’t care” if migrants are kept in horrific conditions for 400 days. 

    https://apple.news/AXrh3EeowTzG5sfExPtr8Cg

    Well, Lindsey, that’s because you’re a shithead. 
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Meltdown99 said:
    From what I read they are going after those ordered deported already?  What are they suppose to do, not enforce the law?  It's no different than police arresting someone who has a warrant out for your arrest...if you been ordered out and don't go you are breaking the law.

  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    edited July 2019
    CM189191 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    From what I read they are going after those ordered deported already?  What are they suppose to do, not enforce the law?  It's no different than police arresting someone who has a warrant out for your arrest...if you been ordered out and don't go you are breaking the law.

    This is just dumb lol. I mean there is zero correlation.  These people that trump is targeting broke the law. You might not agree or like it but they were supposed to be deported as ordered by the courts.     How is it any different than arresting an actual citizen who broke the law?  I am no trump fan but if he follows what he says then I have no problem with it.  

    And this a huge problem with the Democratic Party.  Many people believe (no statistics available) that the dems care more about illegal immigrants than actual citizens of this country. 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,533
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    From what I read they are going after those ordered deported already?  What are they suppose to do, not enforce the law?  It's no different than police arresting someone who has a warrant out for your arrest...if you been ordered out and don't go you are breaking the law.

    This is just dumb lol. I mean there is zero correlation.  These people that trump is targeting broke the law. You might not agree or like it but they were supposed to be deported as ordered by the courts.     How is it any different than arresting an actual citizen who broke the law?  I am no trump fan but if he follows what he says then I have no problem with it.  

    And this a huge problem with the Democratic Party.  Many people believe (no statistics available) that the dems care more about illegal immigrants than actual citizens of this country. 
    so it comes down to, to what severity do we establish a deport order is? Is it serious felony worthy? You know, where teams are sent out on arrest warrants? Or more along the misdemeanor, we'll arrest you when we come across you.

    Given most immigration offenses are civil in nature( I think) and not criminal, unless the deport orders come as a result of adjudicated criminal acts, should there be these raids?

    further, just who are they targeting here? What of the ones who have appealed? Are they under threat? Given this admins direction , I would say there is no distinction.
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    From what I read they are going after those ordered deported already?  What are they suppose to do, not enforce the law?  It's no different than police arresting someone who has a warrant out for your arrest...if you been ordered out and don't go you are breaking the law.

    This is just dumb lol. I mean there is zero correlation.  These people that trump is targeting broke the law. You might not agree or like it but they were supposed to be deported as ordered by the courts.     How is it any different than arresting an actual citizen who broke the law?  I am no trump fan but if he follows what he says then I have no problem with it.  

    And this a huge problem with the Democratic Party.  Many people believe (no statistics available) that the dems care more about illegal immigrants than actual citizens of this country. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,488
    mcgruff10 said:

     Many people believe (no statistics available) that the dems care more about illegal immigrants than actual citizens of this country. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

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