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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    josevolution said:
    I guess but I would only celebrate indigenous day anyway, Columbus screw him and the ship he sailed on..
    Does anyone really celebrate comings day? Other than banks being closed, it’s pretty much just another day.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,684
    mace1229 said:
    josevolution said:
    I guess but I would only celebrate indigenous day anyway, Columbus screw him and the ship he sailed on..
    Does anyone really celebrate comings day? Other than banks being closed, it’s pretty much just another day.
    My daughters school is closed tomorrow St Joe’s college here on Long Island.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    josevolution said:
    mace1229 said:
    josevolution said:
    I guess but I would only celebrate indigenous day anyway, Columbus screw him and the ship he sailed on..
    Does anyone really celebrate comings day? Other than banks being closed, it’s pretty much just another day.
    My daughters school is closed tomorrow St Joe’s college here on Long Island.
    Must be an east coast thing. Haven’t had Columbus Day off since about 3rd grade. School districts here don’t even give Veterans Day off anymore. Really just MLK and Presidents’ Day, other than the big ones of Christmas and Thanksgiving.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,367
    Why bother?
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    mace1229 said:
    josevolution said:
    mace1229 said:
    josevolution said:
    I guess but I would only celebrate indigenous day anyway, Columbus screw him and the ship he sailed on..
    Does anyone really celebrate comings day? Other than banks being closed, it’s pretty much just another day.
    My daughters school is closed tomorrow St Joe’s college here on Long Island.
    Must be an east coast thing. Haven’t had Columbus Day off since about 3rd grade. School districts here don’t even give Veterans Day off anymore. Really just MLK and Presidents’ Day, other than the big ones of Christmas and Thanksgiving.
    Cincy area schools off today 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    mace1229 said:
    josevolution said:
    mace1229 said:
    josevolution said:
    I guess but I would only celebrate indigenous day anyway, Columbus screw him and the ship he sailed on..
    Does anyone really celebrate comings day? Other than banks being closed, it’s pretty much just another day.
    My daughters school is closed tomorrow St Joe’s college here on Long Island.
    Must be an east coast thing. Haven’t had Columbus Day off since about 3rd grade. School districts here don’t even give Veterans Day off anymore. Really just MLK and Presidents’ Day, other than the big ones of Christmas and Thanksgiving.
    What about Memorial and Labor Days?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,521
    cincybearcat said:
    josevolution said:
    I guess but I would only celebrate indigenous day anyway, Columbus screw him and the ship he sailed on..
    That’s cool. But Columbus gave me a place to live and all the indigenous people did was make it a pain in the ass for my ancestors to set up shop! ;)

    There really has to be some level headed thinking on all this nonsense.
    there have been an infinite amount of transgressions against other humans in order for you to exist. you can denounce all of them while still being allowed to live a happy life. imagine being the product of a rape. the child doesn't have to celebrate his biological father just because he gave him life. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    josevolution said:
    mace1229 said:
    josevolution said:
    I guess but I would only celebrate indigenous day anyway, Columbus screw him and the ship he sailed on..
    Does anyone really celebrate comings day? Other than banks being closed, it’s pretty much just another day.
    My daughters school is closed tomorrow St Joe’s college here on Long Island.
    Must be an east coast thing. Haven’t had Columbus Day off since about 3rd grade. School districts here don’t even give Veterans Day off anymore. Really just MLK and Presidents’ Day, other than the big ones of Christmas and Thanksgiving.
    What about Memorial and Labor Days?
    Forgot about Labor Day, we get that off. Most schools in the state end the weekend before Memorial Day, so doesn’t really apply. But I’m sure we would get it off if school was on.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,684
    https://apple.news/AbSbPjhZ2S0SLayz6usPnIw
    All these kids without parents and this great administration can’t/won’t do anything to help them be reunited what a god damn shame! 

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,684
    https://apple.news/Az0T2yUijRQaDXJOjvQGHAA
    More vile news about this administration’s immigrant policies! 

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,684
    https://twitter.com/libertea2012/status/1334520153552289792?s=21
    Nazi Miller & his wife recently had a baby it’s unreal to me that they can celebrate that with this issue hanging over his head! 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,452
    josevolution said:
    https://twitter.com/libertea2012/status/1334520153552289792?s=21
    Nazi Miller & his wife recently had a baby it’s unreal to me that they can celebrate that with this issue hanging over his head! 
    He'll grow up to look like this...


  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,367
    josevolution said:
    https://twitter.com/libertea2012/status/1334520153552289792?s=21
    Nazi Miller & his wife recently had a baby it’s unreal to me that they can celebrate that with this issue hanging over his head! 
    Easy for the soulless.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Time to bump this thread seeing how the same old tropes are being tossed out there. Repubs are against immigration, both legal and illegal, unless the immigrants are from white, European nations, because of the threat to their white power structure, all the while exploiting both to enrich themselves. You want to end illegal immigration? Prosecute big business owners that hire them. But be prepared to pay $10.00 for a head of lettuce or two and half times for that McMansion in that fancy schmancy new suburb going up in those cow pastures on the outskirts of town.

    Its been proven time and time again that immigration, both legal and illegal, is a net win for the US. Do some research.
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Time to bump this thread seeing how the same old tropes are being tossed out there. Repubs are against immigration, both legal and illegal, unless the immigrants are from white, European nations, because of the threat to their white power structure, all the while exploiting both to enrich themselves. You want to end illegal immigration? Prosecute big business owners that hire them. But be prepared to pay $10.00 for a head of lettuce or two and half times for that McMansion in that fancy schmancy new suburb going up in those cow pastures on the outskirts of town.

    Its been proven time and time again that immigration, both legal and illegal, is a net win for the US. Do some research.
    Or you can still use "transient" workers on a visa so they can still pick my lettuce cheaply.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,367
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Time to bump this thread seeing how the same old tropes are being tossed out there. Repubs are against immigration, both legal and illegal, unless the immigrants are from white, European nations, because of the threat to their white power structure, all the while exploiting both to enrich themselves. You want to end illegal immigration? Prosecute big business owners that hire them. But be prepared to pay $10.00 for a head of lettuce or two and half times for that McMansion in that fancy schmancy new suburb going up in those cow pastures on the outskirts of town.

    Its been proven time and time again that immigration, both legal and illegal, is a net win for the US. Do some research.
    Or you can still use "transient" workers on a visa so they can still pick my lettuce cheaply.
    As it should be but you still need to hold large agribusiness operators accountable for hiring illegals and treating their employees like shit (living and working conditions, etc.). Increase the number of visas for migrant labor and speed up the process by which they're approved and hold businesses accountable. Immigration reform hasn't happened since 1986. It needs to be bi-partisan but you know, "the other." 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,474
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Time to bump this thread seeing how the same old tropes are being tossed out there. Repubs are against immigration, both legal and illegal, unless the immigrants are from white, European nations, because of the threat to their white power structure, all the while exploiting both to enrich themselves. You want to end illegal immigration? Prosecute big business owners that hire them. But be prepared to pay $10.00 for a head of lettuce or two and half times for that McMansion in that fancy schmancy new suburb going up in those cow pastures on the outskirts of town.

    Its been proven time and time again that immigration, both legal and illegal, is a net win for the US. Do some research.
    Or you can still use "transient" workers on a visa so they can still pick my lettuce cheaply.
    As it should be but you still need to hold large agribusiness operators accountable for hiring illegals and treating their employees like shit (living and working conditions, etc.). Increase the number of visas for migrant labor and speed up the process by which they're approved and hold businesses accountable. Immigration reform hasn't happened since 1986. It needs to be bi-partisan but you know, "the other." 
    I can remember Bush putting forth regulations for that and then raids happening along the border at Chicken plants.  The legislation was supposed to penalize business' for hiring such people.  I  don't think it was ever enforced though?  I'm going off of memory without being a google master here.

    I also remember having conversations with conservatives that were ok with hiring day laborers that were illegal.  Same conversation about them frequenting restaurants that hire cooks and dishwashers that are also illegal.  They seemed ok with that too.  Where they had heartache, and I do too, is prevailing wage jobs where this happens.  It is a big problem in NY where the big residential projects went to non union and the local workers get shut out.

    In reality neither side gives a shit about actually coming to terms with immigration policy.  Zero bipartisanship is being exemplified.
  • Ledbetterman10
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    What the heck is going on at the southern border?
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again. 
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    mace1229 said:
    I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again. 
    Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.


    And here’s one from the Wall Street Journal: 

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