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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    edited July 2019
    Kat said:
    So this thread can be closed now? We're done talking about the Dem candidates?
    If we all can agree Queen Elisabeth is the:

    https://youtu.be/yJF9oCNNWFY

    Then yes.

    Maybe you can help mrussel point to one Quality of Life metric where the US beat Sweden? Otherwise, maybe it is a good idea for candidate Sanders to keep his eyes on Europe as inspiration to help make the US work better. Like he seems to do by the image he posted, that I posted on here.
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    edited July 2019
    Kamala was on the view:

    Sen. Kamala Harris on Joe Biden Confrontation | The View

    https://youtu.be/LwO35jaS87M

    Sen. Kamala Harris on Reparations and Border Security | The View
    https://youtu.be/juwIDgAvw0Q

    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,236
    Is Biden the most moderate of all the candidates?  I am far from an expert on each one.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    mcgruff10 said:
    Is Biden the most moderate of all the candidates?  I am far from an expert on each one.  
    Probably, Pete seems pretty moderate as well, but he doesn't have the same track record of voting to validate that.  
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,236
    edited July 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Is Biden the most moderate of all the candidates?  I am far from an expert on each one.  
    Probably, Pete seems pretty moderate as well, but he doesn't have the same track record of voting to validate that.  
    And Sanders would be most to the left?  Is there anyone more liberal than him?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Is Biden the most moderate of all the candidates?  I am far from an expert on each one.  
    Probably, Pete seems pretty moderate as well, but he doesn't have the same track record of voting to validate that.  
    Biden and Amy lead the moderate pack, no?
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Is Biden the most moderate of all the candidates?  I am far from an expert on each one.  
    Probably, Pete seems pretty moderate as well, but he doesn't have the same track record of voting to validate that.  
    And Sanders would be most to the left?  Is there anyone more liberal than him?
    Karl Marx
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    cincybearcat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Is Biden the most moderate of all the candidates?  I am far from an expert on each one.  
    Probably, Pete seems pretty moderate as well, but he doesn't have the same track record of voting to validate that.  
    And Sanders would be most to the left?  Is there anyone more liberal than him?
    Karl Marx
    In what way would Karl Marx be "liberal"
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Is Biden the most moderate of all the candidates?  I am far from an expert on each one.  
    Probably, Pete seems pretty moderate as well, but he doesn't have the same track record of voting to validate that.  
    And Sanders would be most to the left?  Is there anyone more liberal than him?
    Karl Marx
    In what way would Karl Marx be "liberal"
    Oh you got me.  Father of socialism...making a joke about bernie.  Nice catch #14
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Is Biden the most moderate of all the candidates?  I am far from an expert on each one.  
    Probably, Pete seems pretty moderate as well, but he doesn't have the same track record of voting to validate that.  
    And Sanders would be most to the left?  Is there anyone more liberal than him?
    Karl Marx
    In what way would Karl Marx be "liberal"
    Oh you got me.  Father of socialism...making a joke about bernie.  Nice catch #14
    How far more left than Sanders would you have to go to be considered left of liberal, and not liberal? How it's looked on in the US?

    Or is "liberal" just an endless void of everything left of republican?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I think Presiden Hickenlooper (sp) has a great ring to it... 
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Is Biden the most moderate of all the candidates?  I am far from an expert on each one.  
    Probably, Pete seems pretty moderate as well, but he doesn't have the same track record of voting to validate that.  
    And Sanders would be most to the left?  Is there anyone more liberal than him?
    Karl Marx
    In what way would Karl Marx be "liberal"
    Oh you got me.  Father of socialism...making a joke about bernie.  Nice catch #14
    How far more left than Sanders would you have to go to be considered left of liberal, and not liberal? How it's looked on in the US?

    Or is "liberal" just an endless void of everything left of republican?
    Well in reality it has become 2 teams it seems.  You are either a liberal or a conservative.  Despite the many issues where you could vary and cross between parties, etc.  

    That sucks and is very unfortunate.  The politicians are more concerned with voting the party line than voting their conscience.  And so it seems are many of the people.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Is Biden the most moderate of all the candidates?  I am far from an expert on each one.  
    Probably, Pete seems pretty moderate as well, but he doesn't have the same track record of voting to validate that.  
    Biden and Amy lead the moderate pack, no?
    Yes definitely her.  I forgot about her.  I like Amy a lot.  She needs a bit of a stronger presence on stage.  I would have put Harris into the center-left bucket until the debate.  I think she probably still is, at heart, but she was an opportunist that night.  
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    mrussel1 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Is Biden the most moderate of all the candidates?  I am far from an expert on each one.  
    Probably, Pete seems pretty moderate as well, but he doesn't have the same track record of voting to validate that.  
    Biden and Amy lead the moderate pack, no?
    Yes definitely her.  I forgot about her.  I like Amy a lot.  She needs a bit of a stronger presence on stage.  I would have put Harris into the center-left bucket until the debate.  I think she probably still is, at heart, but she was an opportunist that night.  
    I like Bennett too but he’s got no shot, unfortunately. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mrussel1 said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Americans and Canadians are not the laziest people in the world.  What nonsense...
    https://allthatsinteresting.com/worlds-laziest-countries
    Do you equate laziness to lack of gym time?  That is pretty asinine.  I would go as far as to say that the hardest working people do not have time for gym memberships or prepping for the next 5k.  I guess it depends on your definition of “work” though...
    The study didn’t look at “gym time”, it looked at physical activity, ie being physically active rather than sitting around. You’ll note that some of the most active people were in developing countries - I don’t think they’re spending much time in a gym. 
    This pretty much sums it up:
    ”The report explains that this trend could be related to the fact that those with higher incomes tend to have “more sedentary occupations” and that greater access to automobile transportation results in lesser physical activity.”


    Using automobiles in preference to walking, cycling or public transit is lazy, bad for your health and bad for the environment. North Americans, particularly those in the US, like their big SUVs far too much and aren’t prioritizing alternate forms of moving people, and thus the cycle of laziness continues. 
    I don't know if that's true or not.  It's a chicken/egg discussion.  Outside of Chicago and NYC, public transportation isn't all that practical.  So many people live in suburbs and secondary cities that don't have a strong infrastructure like Chicago and NY.  LA's isn't great, SF isn't, DC metro is good, but it doesn't extend far out of the beltway at all.  So it's not very practical for people who come in for work.  When I have to go to NY, I usually train it, if I have time, and then obviously use the subway when I'm there.  Driving in any of the boroughs is a nightmare. 
    The SUV argument isn't really relevant since one vehicle doesn't make you fatter than another.  
    That’s my point - there are very, very few cities in the US in which walking, cycling or public transportation is prioritized. American cities were built for the convenience of the car, not the convenience of people. People would prefer to drive. That’s where the laziness comes into play. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674

    Sen. Kamala Harris on Dem Infighting and Beating Trump | The View

    https://youtu.be/qHVCIqndWdg

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    oftenreading said:
    mrussel1 said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Americans and Canadians are not the laziest people in the world.  What nonsense...
    https://allthatsinteresting.com/worlds-laziest-countries
    Do you equate laziness to lack of gym time?  That is pretty asinine.  I would go as far as to say that the hardest working people do not have time for gym memberships or prepping for the next 5k.  I guess it depends on your definition of “work” though...
    The study didn’t look at “gym time”, it looked at physical activity, ie being physically active rather than sitting around. You’ll note that some of the most active people were in developing countries - I don’t think they’re spending much time in a gym. 
    This pretty much sums it up:
    ”The report explains that this trend could be related to the fact that those with higher incomes tend to have “more sedentary occupations” and that greater access to automobile transportation results in lesser physical activity.”


    Using automobiles in preference to walking, cycling or public transit is lazy, bad for your health and bad for the environment. North Americans, particularly those in the US, like their big SUVs far too much and aren’t prioritizing alternate forms of moving people, and thus the cycle of laziness continues. 
    I don't know if that's true or not.  It's a chicken/egg discussion.  Outside of Chicago and NYC, public transportation isn't all that practical.  So many people live in suburbs and secondary cities that don't have a strong infrastructure like Chicago and NY.  LA's isn't great, SF isn't, DC metro is good, but it doesn't extend far out of the beltway at all.  So it's not very practical for people who come in for work.  When I have to go to NY, I usually train it, if I have time, and then obviously use the subway when I'm there.  Driving in any of the boroughs is a nightmare. 
    The SUV argument isn't really relevant since one vehicle doesn't make you fatter than another.  
    That’s my point - there are very, very few cities in the US in which walking, cycling or public transportation is prioritized. American cities were built for the convenience of the car, not the convenience of people. People would prefer to drive. That’s where the laziness comes into play. 
    Major cities in the US were planned and built well before the advent of the car.  But what we've always had in abundance is space, so naturally things spread out, and then post war with the GI Bill, you had the explosion of the suburb.  This is why I say it's a chicken or the egg thing.  Cars were more logical and practical for how the urban and suburban citizens chose to live, based on the explosion of housing and suburbia.  I would not say cities were built for the car at all.  The car became more practical and desirable vs public transportation.  
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674

    Charlamagne tha God: Trump setting 2020 stage for Harris
    https://youtu.be/spdLSMWuFok

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    edited July 2019
    Here's a nice summary of the week in Democratic politics.. race, race baiting and racial infighting.  There's obviously an element on the left that sees (or tries to see) racial intent in every decision, every offense, every event.  The firing has now turned inward.  This was a natural conclusion and it clouds the racial animus truly being stoked by the president.  The good news, I hope, is that it blew up now and hopefully it recede and some members will learn something.  If not, the election is lost I fear.  We can't go on like this.  

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/452856-racial-politics-roil-democratic-party
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    People who drive cars are not lazy...just more nonsense on this site.  Canada is a very large country with lots of space and distance between cities...walking, riding a bike and public transit is just not an option for many Canadians...and Canadians love their truck and SUVs just as much as Americans...

    But I guess I should have walked or ridden a bike on my near 100 KM round trip to work and back for 25 years.  LMFAO...
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