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Neither would I.pjhawks said:
like he has millions to give away.RYME said:I'm just curious, if Donald Trump gave everybody on this message board a million dollars out of his own pocket and free weed for life, would that gain him any popularity here?
secondly I wouldn't accept a dime from his own pocket because that money is as dirty as dirt can be.
I suggest you take a read of Michael Lewis' book The Fifth Risk. read that and tell me all is good.
And that is one damning book. Very well written and researched.I LOVE MUSIC.
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And read the full transcript of the Access Hollywood recording in the article linked below and tell me it’s not plausible that Team Trump Treason hit up on and sexually assaulted children.RYME said:Where is your evidence Halifax that he's a pedophile? Let's start there. You just throw spaghetti on the fridgerator to see which noodles are cooked the ones that stick are donethe ones that fall off aren't done yet.
https://apple.news/AjBctMLMWTxyu8b1YhOy87g
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Ryme, I responded one by one to every item on your list. I'm interested if you disagree with any of my statements.RYME said:Where is your evidence Halifax that he's a pedophile? Let's start there. You just throw spaghetti on the fridgerator to see which noodles are cooked the ones that stick are donethe ones that fall off aren't done yet.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Halifax2TheMax said:
And read the full transcript of the Access Hollywood recording in the article linked below and tell me it’s not plausible that Team Trump Treason hit up on and sexually assaulted children.RYME said:Where is your evidence Halifax that he's a pedophile? Let's start there. You just throw spaghetti on the fridgerator to see which noodles are cooked the ones that stick are donethe ones that fall off aren't done yet.
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Let's not forget about barging uninvited into the dressing room of underage girls at the beauty pageant....my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Honestly, there's far more evidence that Trump has sexually assaulted multiple women and girls than that he has achieved any of the items on Ryme's list.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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Why do you give a guy with 20+ people accusing him of sexual assault and who's friend in this case just got arrested for these kind of things the benefit of the doubt? What does your common sense tell you?RYME said:Where is your evidence Halifax that he's a pedophile?
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Yeah I know they have 6 rings. That’s so many that even Putin has one. Keep being a hypocrite and cry about people that are “complicit” by not crying about Trump every waking moment...while minimizing people like Brady, Kraft, and Belichick who are actual real-life friends of Trump.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yuck, yuck, yuck six time Super Bowl champions and real patriots.Ledbetterman10 said:
Actually it looks like he's a president for real Patriots....Halifax2TheMax said:
Yea, sure. A president for pedophiles, sexual assaulters, racists, misogynists, liars, hypocrites, traitors, faux patriots and the uneducated. Woot!Ledbetterman10 said:
Ah man. Well with free money and weed off the table, I guess I'll have to vote for him to make america great again. See there's a campaign promise he's following through on. I respect that. A president for the people.Halifax2TheMax said:
I’d question your judgement because Team Trump Treason would give you a million dollars of Trump, The Real Estate Empire Game money and a bag of oregano. Remember when he said he’d donate $100MM of his own money to his campaign? Yea, you can be bought.Ledbetterman10 said:
I think this scenario might be the only way I'd vote for him. I can be bought.RYME said:I'm just curious, if Donald Trump gave everybody on this message board a million dollars out of his own pocket and free weed for life, would that gain him any popularity here?
Now awaiting the holier-than-thou posts questioning my morality and worth as a human-being for entertaining the thought of hypothetically voting for Trump, in a scenario where he gives me free weed. Spiritual Chaos, Juggler, Halifax, Jose, Tiki....lemme have it.
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Define “friend.” Or go back and read my previous response to this criticism when I directly responded to you. In typical fashion, I gave you a detailed answer to the "why" and you brushed it off and never commented again (you know how to use the search function I'm sure so I won't find it for you and bump it back up. Its on you to pay attention). I'm done wasting my time explaining my viewpoints to you. Have a great day.Ledbetterman10 said:
Yeah I know they have 6 rings. That’s so many that even Putin has one. Keep being a hypocrite and cry about people that are “complicit” by not crying about Trump every waking moment...while minimizing people like Brady, Kraft, and Belichick who are actual real-life friends of Trump.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yuck, yuck, yuck six time Super Bowl champions and real patriots.Ledbetterman10 said:
Actually it looks like he's a president for real Patriots....Halifax2TheMax said:
Yea, sure. A president for pedophiles, sexual assaulters, racists, misogynists, liars, hypocrites, traitors, faux patriots and the uneducated. Woot!Ledbetterman10 said:
Ah man. Well with free money and weed off the table, I guess I'll have to vote for him to make america great again. See there's a campaign promise he's following through on. I respect that. A president for the people.Halifax2TheMax said:
I’d question your judgement because Team Trump Treason would give you a million dollars of Trump, The Real Estate Empire Game money and a bag of oregano. Remember when he said he’d donate $100MM of his own money to his campaign? Yea, you can be bought.Ledbetterman10 said:
I think this scenario might be the only way I'd vote for him. I can be bought.RYME said:I'm just curious, if Donald Trump gave everybody on this message board a million dollars out of his own pocket and free weed for life, would that gain him any popularity here?
Now awaiting the holier-than-thou posts questioning my morality and worth as a human-being for entertaining the thought of hypothetically voting for Trump, in a scenario where he gives me free weed. Spiritual Chaos, Juggler, Halifax, Jose, Tiki....lemme have it.
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of course he's friends with them. they are liars, cheaters and sexual deviants like he isLedbetterman10 said:
Yeah I know they have 6 rings. That’s so many that even Putin has one. Keep being a hypocrite and cry about people that are “complicit” by not crying about Trump every waking moment...while minimizing people like Brady, Kraft, and Belichick who are actual real-life friends of Trump.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yuck, yuck, yuck six time Super Bowl champions and real patriots.Ledbetterman10 said:
Actually it looks like he's a president for real Patriots....Halifax2TheMax said:
Yea, sure. A president for pedophiles, sexual assaulters, racists, misogynists, liars, hypocrites, traitors, faux patriots and the uneducated. Woot!Ledbetterman10 said:
Ah man. Well with free money and weed off the table, I guess I'll have to vote for him to make america great again. See there's a campaign promise he's following through on. I respect that. A president for the people.Halifax2TheMax said:
I’d question your judgement because Team Trump Treason would give you a million dollars of Trump, The Real Estate Empire Game money and a bag of oregano. Remember when he said he’d donate $100MM of his own money to his campaign? Yea, you can be bought.Ledbetterman10 said:
I think this scenario might be the only way I'd vote for him. I can be bought.RYME said:I'm just curious, if Donald Trump gave everybody on this message board a million dollars out of his own pocket and free weed for life, would that gain him any popularity here?
Now awaiting the holier-than-thou posts questioning my morality and worth as a human-being for entertaining the thought of hypothetically voting for Trump, in a scenario where he gives me free weed. Spiritual Chaos, Juggler, Halifax, Jose, Tiki....lemme have it.
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Talk about tossing pasta against the refrigerator. Where's Ryme?pjhawks said:
of course he's friends with them. they are liars, cheaters and sexual deviants like he isLedbetterman10 said:
Yeah I know they have 6 rings. That’s so many that even Putin has one. Keep being a hypocrite and cry about people that are “complicit” by not crying about Trump every waking moment...while minimizing people like Brady, Kraft, and Belichick who are actual real-life friends of Trump.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yuck, yuck, yuck six time Super Bowl champions and real patriots.Ledbetterman10 said:
Actually it looks like he's a president for real Patriots....Halifax2TheMax said:
Yea, sure. A president for pedophiles, sexual assaulters, racists, misogynists, liars, hypocrites, traitors, faux patriots and the uneducated. Woot!Ledbetterman10 said:
Ah man. Well with free money and weed off the table, I guess I'll have to vote for him to make america great again. See there's a campaign promise he's following through on. I respect that. A president for the people.Halifax2TheMax said:
I’d question your judgement because Team Trump Treason would give you a million dollars of Trump, The Real Estate Empire Game money and a bag of oregano. Remember when he said he’d donate $100MM of his own money to his campaign? Yea, you can be bought.Ledbetterman10 said:
I think this scenario might be the only way I'd vote for him. I can be bought.RYME said:I'm just curious, if Donald Trump gave everybody on this message board a million dollars out of his own pocket and free weed for life, would that gain him any popularity here?
Now awaiting the holier-than-thou posts questioning my morality and worth as a human-being for entertaining the thought of hypothetically voting for Trump, in a scenario where he gives me free weed. Spiritual Chaos, Juggler, Halifax, Jose, Tiki....lemme have it.
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@RYME would love to see you respond to this when you have the chance. Curious to know why you've ignored it thus far too...benjs said:
-IS is seemingly dormant, but al-Baghdadi has claimed they're going after new territory. For what it's worth, the US are far from the only country delivering assistance in the region and thus shouldn't receive exclusive creditRYME said:Isis is gone, they are not posting videos of lopping heads off of journalists/people and or pouring gas on people in cages and lighting them on fire these days.
Trump has got Iran backed into a corner,
(they are trying to lure him into another unpopular War but he's not that stupid)
Kim Jong Un isn't lobbing missiles towards Japan anymore, Kim Jong-un is not running his mouth uncontrollably anymore.
Trump is getting much better deals with China.
Basher al-assad isn't gassing his people anymore is he?
We are at not at War with any country in particular right now. He has made the world a safer place for the time being, and has so far, presided over a pretty peaceful stretch of time.
The economy is ripping and roaring
African American Hispanics Asians women are all at record low number Unemploymen numbers.
I don't give a damn about his past business dealings good or bad, or his relationships. I care about how he runs the country and I think he's doing a damn good job.
It's amazing to me that so many of you still hate him at every turn, even if he's doing the things you hoped for like peace.
We're never going to encounter a perfect utopian span of time, but it's been a pretty calm stretch of time other than the verbal Wars.
But just keep on ripping him until your face turns blue.
-Cancelling an in-effect deal to replace it with no deal at all, then criticizing the country when they don't adhere to the nullified deal, and using that as means to cripple their economy does not to me read "backed into a corner" - it's a volatile and reckless thing to do for either Iran or the US, and sends a strong message about the value of the US's word (hint: lip service and lies)
-Trump is getting better deals that are forcing large companies who contribute huge taxes to America to reconsider their manufacturing strategies to take other intermediate steps that formerly happened in the States, to now happen in China because of the taxes along the way (not just on finished goods). I'm curious to see reports on the price of consumer goods after a year of trade wars, but I don't anticipate this to have favoured consumers (nor do economists far smarter than me).
-Credit earned where credit due - I don't understand the "we only work with good people" bullshit, and appreciate Trump's efforts. I'm not sure I believe he authentically will change anything regarding NK in the long-term, but a temporary peace is still a peace they don't often get in the area.
-Interestingly, news from today - US retreating from Syria to leave IS to others, and UK and France to fill the void. Make (or make worse) a mess, leave a mess behind. It's the American way.
-The economy is on the same trajectory as during Obama's tenure. I didn't think that happened in a vacuum formed by the President then, and I don't think it now.
-My gut says that non-whites and non-males appreciate the low unemployment but would like it to come from a President who has the basic ability to show respect towards either group
-If you don't want to learn from history, that's your prerogative. Be aware that it's one of the distinctive features of humans that let us not become extinct yet. Being POTUS is very much about maintaining relationships. That's why it matters.
Finally, on the thing you didn't mention here - fucking decorum. This is not an isolationist world. Focusing on our abilities to cooperate with other countries is not a weakness, it's a necessary step when we don't have it all (and thus need the rest of the world). Sabotaging that ability to cooperate is not a power play; it's a sign of lunacy and weakness built in a delusional mind who would put walls up around what he calls his country to protect them against unproven and unprovable threats.
Ryme, I know I'm not going to sway you on an ethical argument, but I do think you should consider the long-term ramifications of severing relationships with allies, promoting socioeconomic isolationism in a globalist world, ignoring global existential threats agreed upon by everyone outside of the US (and most logical folks within the States), and perpetuating division (instead of promoting unity) within the US. If you're still not convinced, vote for who you think is best, and help create the future you deserve.www.myspace.com0 -
You told me to find new friends (very nice) in another post because people on this message board hate racist and sexist and all the rest ok. Based on your assumption that I'm a racist sexist sympathizer Etc.The Juggler said:
@RYME would love to see you respond to this when you have the chance. Curious to know why you've ignored it thus far too...benjs said:
-IS is seemingly dormant, but al-Baghdadi has claimed they're going after new territory. For what it's worth, the US are far from the only country delivering assistance in the region and thus shouldn't receive exclusive creditRYME said:Isis is gone, they are not posting videos of lopping heads off of journalists/people and or pouring gas on people in cages and lighting them on fire these days.
Trump has got Iran backed into a corner,
(they are trying to lure him into another unpopular War but he's not that stupid)
Kim Jong Un isn't lobbing missiles towards Japan anymore, Kim Jong-un is not running his mouth uncontrollably anymore.
Trump is getting much better deals with China.
Basher al-assad isn't gassing his people anymore is he?
We are at not at War with any country in particular right now. He has made the world a safer place for the time being, and has so far, presided over a pretty peaceful stretch of time.
The economy is ripping and roaring
African American Hispanics Asians women are all at record low number Unemploymen numbers.
I don't give a damn about his past business dealings good or bad, or his relationships. I care about how he runs the country and I think he's doing a damn good job.
It's amazing to me that so many of you still hate him at every turn, even if he's doing the things you hoped for like peace.
We're never going to encounter a perfect utopian span of time, but it's been a pretty calm stretch of time other than the verbal Wars.
But just keep on ripping him until your face turns blue.
-Cancelling an in-effect deal to replace it with no deal at all, then criticizing the country when they don't adhere to the nullified deal, and using that as means to cripple their economy does not to me read "backed into a corner" - it's a volatile and reckless thing to do for either Iran or the US, and sends a strong message about the value of the US's word (hint: lip service and lies)
-Trump is getting better deals that are forcing large companies who contribute huge taxes to America to reconsider their manufacturing strategies to take other intermediate steps that formerly happened in the States, to now happen in China because of the taxes along the way (not just on finished goods). I'm curious to see reports on the price of consumer goods after a year of trade wars, but I don't anticipate this to have favoured consumers (nor do economists far smarter than me).
-Credit earned where credit due - I don't understand the "we only work with good people" bullshit, and appreciate Trump's efforts. I'm not sure I believe he authentically will change anything regarding NK in the long-term, but a temporary peace is still a peace they don't often get in the area.
-Interestingly, news from today - US retreating from Syria to leave IS to others, and UK and France to fill the void. Make (or make worse) a mess, leave a mess behind. It's the American way.
-The economy is on the same trajectory as during Obama's tenure. I didn't think that happened in a vacuum formed by the President then, and I don't think it now.
-My gut says that non-whites and non-males appreciate the low unemployment but would like it to come from a President who has the basic ability to show respect towards either group
-If you don't want to learn from history, that's your prerogative. Be aware that it's one of the distinctive features of humans that let us not become extinct yet. Being POTUS is very much about maintaining relationships. That's why it matters.
Finally, on the thing you didn't mention here - fucking decorum. This is not an isolationist world. Focusing on our abilities to cooperate with other countries is not a weakness, it's a necessary step when we don't have it all (and thus need the rest of the world). Sabotaging that ability to cooperate is not a power play; it's a sign of lunacy and weakness built in a delusional mind who would put walls up around what he calls his country to protect them against unproven and unprovable threats.
Ryme, I know I'm not going to sway you on an ethical argument, but I do think you should consider the long-term ramifications of severing relationships with allies, promoting socioeconomic isolationism in a globalist world, ignoring global existential threats agreed upon by everyone outside of the US (and most logical folks within the States), and perpetuating division (instead of promoting unity) within the US. If you're still not convinced, vote for who you think is best, and help create the future you deserve.
It's impossible to have a conversation with you.
I haven't responded until now because I drive a truck for a living.
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I also explained why I said that, and I also apologized. Of course, I respect your right to not respond, but that's your prerogative. At least now people can see your arguments, my counter-arguments, and follow the logic.RYME said:
You told me to find new friends (very nice) in another post because people on this message board hate racist and sexist and all the rest ok. Based on your assumption that I'm a racist sexist sympathizer Etc.The Juggler said:
@RYME would love to see you respond to this when you have the chance. Curious to know why you've ignored it thus far too...benjs said:
-IS is seemingly dormant, but al-Baghdadi has claimed they're going after new territory. For what it's worth, the US are far from the only country delivering assistance in the region and thus shouldn't receive exclusive creditRYME said:Isis is gone, they are not posting videos of lopping heads off of journalists/people and or pouring gas on people in cages and lighting them on fire these days.
Trump has got Iran backed into a corner,
(they are trying to lure him into another unpopular War but he's not that stupid)
Kim Jong Un isn't lobbing missiles towards Japan anymore, Kim Jong-un is not running his mouth uncontrollably anymore.
Trump is getting much better deals with China.
Basher al-assad isn't gassing his people anymore is he?
We are at not at War with any country in particular right now. He has made the world a safer place for the time being, and has so far, presided over a pretty peaceful stretch of time.
The economy is ripping and roaring
African American Hispanics Asians women are all at record low number Unemploymen numbers.
I don't give a damn about his past business dealings good or bad, or his relationships. I care about how he runs the country and I think he's doing a damn good job.
It's amazing to me that so many of you still hate him at every turn, even if he's doing the things you hoped for like peace.
We're never going to encounter a perfect utopian span of time, but it's been a pretty calm stretch of time other than the verbal Wars.
But just keep on ripping him until your face turns blue.
-Cancelling an in-effect deal to replace it with no deal at all, then criticizing the country when they don't adhere to the nullified deal, and using that as means to cripple their economy does not to me read "backed into a corner" - it's a volatile and reckless thing to do for either Iran or the US, and sends a strong message about the value of the US's word (hint: lip service and lies)
-Trump is getting better deals that are forcing large companies who contribute huge taxes to America to reconsider their manufacturing strategies to take other intermediate steps that formerly happened in the States, to now happen in China because of the taxes along the way (not just on finished goods). I'm curious to see reports on the price of consumer goods after a year of trade wars, but I don't anticipate this to have favoured consumers (nor do economists far smarter than me).
-Credit earned where credit due - I don't understand the "we only work with good people" bullshit, and appreciate Trump's efforts. I'm not sure I believe he authentically will change anything regarding NK in the long-term, but a temporary peace is still a peace they don't often get in the area.
-Interestingly, news from today - US retreating from Syria to leave IS to others, and UK and France to fill the void. Make (or make worse) a mess, leave a mess behind. It's the American way.
-The economy is on the same trajectory as during Obama's tenure. I didn't think that happened in a vacuum formed by the President then, and I don't think it now.
-My gut says that non-whites and non-males appreciate the low unemployment but would like it to come from a President who has the basic ability to show respect towards either group
-If you don't want to learn from history, that's your prerogative. Be aware that it's one of the distinctive features of humans that let us not become extinct yet. Being POTUS is very much about maintaining relationships. That's why it matters.
Finally, on the thing you didn't mention here - fucking decorum. This is not an isolationist world. Focusing on our abilities to cooperate with other countries is not a weakness, it's a necessary step when we don't have it all (and thus need the rest of the world). Sabotaging that ability to cooperate is not a power play; it's a sign of lunacy and weakness built in a delusional mind who would put walls up around what he calls his country to protect them against unproven and unprovable threats.
Ryme, I know I'm not going to sway you on an ethical argument, but I do think you should consider the long-term ramifications of severing relationships with allies, promoting socioeconomic isolationism in a globalist world, ignoring global existential threats agreed upon by everyone outside of the US (and most logical folks within the States), and perpetuating division (instead of promoting unity) within the US. If you're still not convinced, vote for who you think is best, and help create the future you deserve.
It's impossible to have a conversation with you.
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Yeah....no, that wasn't me. No idea what you're talking about.RYME said:
You told me to find new friends (very nice) in another post because people on this message board hate racist and sexist and all the rest ok. Based on your assumption that I'm a racist sexist sympathizer Etc.The Juggler said:
@RYME would love to see you respond to this when you have the chance. Curious to know why you've ignored it thus far too...benjs said:
-IS is seemingly dormant, but al-Baghdadi has claimed they're going after new territory. For what it's worth, the US are far from the only country delivering assistance in the region and thus shouldn't receive exclusive creditRYME said:Isis is gone, they are not posting videos of lopping heads off of journalists/people and or pouring gas on people in cages and lighting them on fire these days.
Trump has got Iran backed into a corner,
(they are trying to lure him into another unpopular War but he's not that stupid)
Kim Jong Un isn't lobbing missiles towards Japan anymore, Kim Jong-un is not running his mouth uncontrollably anymore.
Trump is getting much better deals with China.
Basher al-assad isn't gassing his people anymore is he?
We are at not at War with any country in particular right now. He has made the world a safer place for the time being, and has so far, presided over a pretty peaceful stretch of time.
The economy is ripping and roaring
African American Hispanics Asians women are all at record low number Unemploymen numbers.
I don't give a damn about his past business dealings good or bad, or his relationships. I care about how he runs the country and I think he's doing a damn good job.
It's amazing to me that so many of you still hate him at every turn, even if he's doing the things you hoped for like peace.
We're never going to encounter a perfect utopian span of time, but it's been a pretty calm stretch of time other than the verbal Wars.
But just keep on ripping him until your face turns blue.
-Cancelling an in-effect deal to replace it with no deal at all, then criticizing the country when they don't adhere to the nullified deal, and using that as means to cripple their economy does not to me read "backed into a corner" - it's a volatile and reckless thing to do for either Iran or the US, and sends a strong message about the value of the US's word (hint: lip service and lies)
-Trump is getting better deals that are forcing large companies who contribute huge taxes to America to reconsider their manufacturing strategies to take other intermediate steps that formerly happened in the States, to now happen in China because of the taxes along the way (not just on finished goods). I'm curious to see reports on the price of consumer goods after a year of trade wars, but I don't anticipate this to have favoured consumers (nor do economists far smarter than me).
-Credit earned where credit due - I don't understand the "we only work with good people" bullshit, and appreciate Trump's efforts. I'm not sure I believe he authentically will change anything regarding NK in the long-term, but a temporary peace is still a peace they don't often get in the area.
-Interestingly, news from today - US retreating from Syria to leave IS to others, and UK and France to fill the void. Make (or make worse) a mess, leave a mess behind. It's the American way.
-The economy is on the same trajectory as during Obama's tenure. I didn't think that happened in a vacuum formed by the President then, and I don't think it now.
-My gut says that non-whites and non-males appreciate the low unemployment but would like it to come from a President who has the basic ability to show respect towards either group
-If you don't want to learn from history, that's your prerogative. Be aware that it's one of the distinctive features of humans that let us not become extinct yet. Being POTUS is very much about maintaining relationships. That's why it matters.
Finally, on the thing you didn't mention here - fucking decorum. This is not an isolationist world. Focusing on our abilities to cooperate with other countries is not a weakness, it's a necessary step when we don't have it all (and thus need the rest of the world). Sabotaging that ability to cooperate is not a power play; it's a sign of lunacy and weakness built in a delusional mind who would put walls up around what he calls his country to protect them against unproven and unprovable threats.
Ryme, I know I'm not going to sway you on an ethical argument, but I do think you should consider the long-term ramifications of severing relationships with allies, promoting socioeconomic isolationism in a globalist world, ignoring global existential threats agreed upon by everyone outside of the US (and most logical folks within the States), and perpetuating division (instead of promoting unity) within the US. If you're still not convinced, vote for who you think is best, and help create the future you deserve.
It's impossible to have a conversation with you.
I haven't responded until now because I drive a truck for a living.
And I was asking you to reply to Benjs' thoughtful reply to you anyway. Interested to see your response when you the chance since you've responded to other stuff after he posted it.
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@The Juggler - he's referring to my comment to him (hence I wasted my energy).
Ryme - in case you missed my apology:Ryme, your comment was about confusion around the hatred abound towards Sarah Huckabee Sanders. I responded with the numerous reasons for the hatred, and suggested if you can't comprehend it, that might be why. One facetious comment from you brought out one facetious comment from me. For what it's worth, there are plenty of people on here I vehemently disagree with, yet they post without the 'mockery' that I see in yours, and as a result, we get along great.
With that said, I'll try to think more about what I'm posting before I post it, as the last thing I want to do is make you feel uncomfortable posting here. I love this place because we have differing opinions (not in spite of it), and to ruin that would really be a bummer. I'm sorry for making you feel this way, Ryme, and will do my best to take the high road when I feel there are two that could be taken.
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Alright im done driving for today.benjs said:@The Juggler - he's referring to my comment to him (hence I wasted my energy).
Ryme - in case you missed my apology:Ryme, your comment was about confusion around the hatred abound towards Sarah Huckabee Sanders. I responded with the numerous reasons for the hatred, and suggested if you can't comprehend it, that might be why. One facetious comment from you brought out one facetious comment from me. For what it's worth, there are plenty of people on here I vehemently disagree with, yet they post without the 'mockery' that I see in yours, and as a result, we get along great.
With that said, I'll try to think more about what I'm posting before I post it, as the last thing I want to do is make you feel uncomfortable posting here. I love this place because we have differing opinions (not in spite of it), and to ruin that would really be a bummer. I'm sorry for making you feel this way, Ryme, and will do my best to take the high road when I feel there are two that could be taken.
I'll move on from that (benjs) no hard feelings.
And with all the quotes on top of quotes on top of quotes, I didn't realize it was juggler challenging me on your post I thought it was you so anyways no problem.
Alright there's an awful lot to unpack in what you said, about Trump and the world, and I certainly do not disagree with all of it, and juggler wanted my response. I'll admit I don't know how to address every thought, opinion, and points that you made. Where to start with that whole beautiful post I don't know, that's how good and thoughtful it was.Post edited by RYME on0 -
Benjs, since I cant tackle every thing you said in one sitting I will start with this,
What makes Trump a racist?
So your hunch "non-whites and non males appreciate the much lower unemployment rates among the demographics but would rather it come from a president who has the basic ability to show basic respect towards the either groups"
What has Trump done to non-whites that makes him a racist?
And what do you say to the
non-white male & female/non-males who don't have a problem with him & support him? Are they just dumb in your mind?
Former Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke for example said it this way,
I can give you a dozen more examples but I'll start with this.
https://youtu.be/LvgrYCmyO7k
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No this is not about Donald Trump's impending impeachment I admit but I don't know where else to put it without starting another topic so I'll just slap it down here. Take a few minutes and take the time to
Watch and learn a little something about race relations in the USA.
https://youtu.be/H2jCTL2V2-0
This will be very interesting to many of you. And it is relavent to the broader topic of white male consertive = racist, Trump is racist, every one right of center has to be racist.
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Brushed it off and never commented again...like you over in that NRA thread. Yeah I'll be sure to use that search function to see your important viewpoints on the football guys you're a fanboy of, and their relationship with the President you're obsessed with. You're embarrassing yourself at this point. I'm won't be responding to you any further after this. It's like trying to communicate with a bot. Go follow your pee tape to Russia or whatever it is you have saved on your desktop lolHalifax2TheMax said:
Define “friend.” Or go back and read my previous response to this criticism when I directly responded to you. In typical fashion, I gave you a detailed answer to the "why" and you brushed it off and never commented again (you know how to use the search function I'm sure so I won't find it for you and bump it back up. Its on you to pay attention). I'm done wasting my time explaining my viewpoints to you. Have a great day.Ledbetterman10 said:
Yeah I know they have 6 rings. That’s so many that even Putin has one. Keep being a hypocrite and cry about people that are “complicit” by not crying about Trump every waking moment...while minimizing people like Brady, Kraft, and Belichick who are actual real-life friends of Trump.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yuck, yuck, yuck six time Super Bowl champions and real patriots.Ledbetterman10 said:
Actually it looks like he's a president for real Patriots....Halifax2TheMax said:
Yea, sure. A president for pedophiles, sexual assaulters, racists, misogynists, liars, hypocrites, traitors, faux patriots and the uneducated. Woot!Ledbetterman10 said:
Ah man. Well with free money and weed off the table, I guess I'll have to vote for him to make america great again. See there's a campaign promise he's following through on. I respect that. A president for the people.Halifax2TheMax said:
I’d question your judgement because Team Trump Treason would give you a million dollars of Trump, The Real Estate Empire Game money and a bag of oregano. Remember when he said he’d donate $100MM of his own money to his campaign? Yea, you can be bought.Ledbetterman10 said:
I think this scenario might be the only way I'd vote for him. I can be bought.RYME said:I'm just curious, if Donald Trump gave everybody on this message board a million dollars out of his own pocket and free weed for life, would that gain him any popularity here?
Now awaiting the holier-than-thou posts questioning my morality and worth as a human-being for entertaining the thought of hypothetically voting for Trump, in a scenario where he gives me free weed. Spiritual Chaos, Juggler, Halifax, Jose, Tiki....lemme have it.
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