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  • The Juggler
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    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    There are multiple instances of @EdsonNascimento casually talking about Bill Clinton's "history of rape" as concrete facts....yet here he is giving Trump, who has been accused by many more women and is even on tape admitting to sexually assaulting them simply because he is a celebrity, the benefit of the doubt. Gee. I wonder why?

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6591748#
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6592280#Comment_6592280

    Folks, in the Trump era and then in the Post Trump era, we must hold his hypocritical supporters accountable for their nonsense. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Care to comment on the affidavit in support of the restraining order, attached in the linked document?

     https://www.scribd.com/doc/316341058/Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Rape-Lawsuit-and-Affidavits
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  • The Juggler
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    njnancy said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    This was broken by a different news source and confirmed. Do you REALLY doubt that this happened? Really?

    Doubt it happened as it's being quoted?  Yes. Believe it's in the realm of possibility?  Also, yes.
    This is reasonable. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    dignin said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Business Insider is a pretty good source and if you look around this story is being reported widely.

    And given Trump's history this is really, really easy to believe.
    What was that again about crapping in sinks and there being a mad crapper? Anyone? Asking for a friend.
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  • EdsonNascimento
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    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    There are multiple instances of @EdsonNascimento casually talking about Bill Clinton's "history of rape" as concrete facts....yet here he is giving Trump, who has been accused by many more women and is even on tape admitting to sexually assaulting them simply because he is a celebrity, the benefit of the doubt. Gee. I wonder why?

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6591748#
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6592280#Comment_6592280

    Folks, in the Trump era and then in the Post Trump era, we must hold his hypocritical supporters accountable for their nonsense. 
    Lol Clinton did commit rape thought it's called workplace sexual harassment.  That's rape in my book. When the most powerful person in the company (i.e. world) has an intern provide a blow job - that's rape. Plain and simple.   Even if he thought it was "consensual." As with underage girls, there's no consent possible.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • EdsonNascimento
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    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Care to comment on the affidavit in support of the restraining order, attached in the linked document?

     https://www.scribd.com/doc/316341058/Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Rape-Lawsuit-and-Affidavits
    Yeah. It's an accusation to be investigated.   Let's see what comes of it.

    I mean really. C'mon guys - this isn't that difficult. If it's proven he did this, then he should be severely punished. I'm just not going to do that based on accusations and reddit stories.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Care to comment on the affidavit in support of the restraining order, attached in the linked document?

     https://www.scribd.com/doc/316341058/Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Rape-Lawsuit-and-Affidavits
    Yeah. It's an accusation to be investigated.   Let's see what comes of it.

    I mean really. C'mon guys - this isn't that difficult. If it's proven he did this, then he should be severely punished. I'm just not going to do that based on accusations and reddit stories.
    Not a Reddit story, why do you keep insinuating it is?
  • EdsonNascimento
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    dignin said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Care to comment on the affidavit in support of the restraining order, attached in the linked document?

     https://www.scribd.com/doc/316341058/Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Rape-Lawsuit-and-Affidavits
    Yeah. It's an accusation to be investigated.   Let's see what comes of it.

    I mean really. C'mon guys - this isn't that difficult. If it's proven he did this, then he should be severely punished. I'm just not going to do that based on accusations and reddit stories.
    Not a Reddit story, why do you keep insinuating it is?
    utm_source=reddit.com

    Just b/c another publication links to it, doesn't make it their story. Investigate the source of your material. In this case, it wasn't that difficult. It was right there in the link.  Also, like I said - look up George Houraney and see if he might have an axe to grind.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • jeffbr
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    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    The utm_source=reddit.com doesn't mean the info in the article came from Reddit. That is a tag in the URL to track where it was seen. So someone found this article on Reddit. It could have had a tag from facebook, or no tag at all if it was directly from their website. The utm in the URL is just for analytics. Just wanted to clarify that your last point doesn't make sense. A CNN or Fox News report could have a utm_source of reddit if that is where it was posted and they used utm_source for analytics.
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  • EdsonNascimento
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    jeffbr said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    The utm_source=reddit.com doesn't mean the info in the article came from Reddit. That is a tag in the URL to track where it was seen. So someone found this article on Reddit. It could have had a tag from facebook, or no tag at all if it was directly from their website. The utm in the URL is just for analytics. Just wanted to clarify that your last point doesn't make sense. A CNN or Fox News report could have a utm_source of reddit if that is where it was posted and they used utm_source for analytics.
    Gotcha. Thanks. Ok. My bad.   

    I just checked MSNBC.com.  This story is not reported there.  Lol.   Acosta defending his sentencing is the headline. I'd think this would be front and center if other such news agencies thought it had even a modicum of fact. 
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    dignin said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Care to comment on the affidavit in support of the restraining order, attached in the linked document?

     https://www.scribd.com/doc/316341058/Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Rape-Lawsuit-and-Affidavits
    Yeah. It's an accusation to be investigated.   Let's see what comes of it.

    I mean really. C'mon guys - this isn't that difficult. If it's proven he did this, then he should be severely punished. I'm just not going to do that based on accusations and reddit stories.
    Not a Reddit story, why do you keep insinuating it is?
    utm_source=reddit.com

    Just b/c another publication links to it, doesn't make it their story. Investigate the source of your material. In this case, it wasn't that difficult. It was right there in the link.  Also, like I said - look up George Houraney and see if he might have an axe to grind.
    I don't think you understand how Reddit or any other news aggregation site works. 

    As jeffbr has just stated.
  • dignin
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    jeffbr said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    The utm_source=reddit.com doesn't mean the info in the article came from Reddit. That is a tag in the URL to track where it was seen. So someone found this article on Reddit. It could have had a tag from facebook, or no tag at all if it was directly from their website. The utm in the URL is just for analytics. Just wanted to clarify that your last point doesn't make sense. A CNN or Fox News report could have a utm_source of reddit if that is where it was posted and they used utm_source for analytics.
    Gotcha. Thanks. Ok. My bad.   

    I just checked MSNBC.com.  This story is not reported there.  Lol.   Acosta defending his sentencing is the headline. I'd think this would be front and center if other such news agencies thought it had even a modicum of fact. 
    If you want to shit on a source or article at least take the time to read it. Otherwise you can look really silly. The original source for this article was from the New York Times ( yeah I know, the failing one). Was referenced right at the beginning of the article.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/us/politics/trump-epstein.html


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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Please point me to the post where someone stated, "I/we hope Team Trump Treason molested under age girls."
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  • The Juggler
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    edited July 2019
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    There are multiple instances of @EdsonNascimento casually talking about Bill Clinton's "history of rape" as concrete facts....yet here he is giving Trump, who has been accused by many more women and is even on tape admitting to sexually assaulting them simply because he is a celebrity, the benefit of the doubt. Gee. I wonder why?

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6591748#
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6592280#Comment_6592280

    Folks, in the Trump era and then in the Post Trump era, we must hold his hypocritical supporters accountable for their nonsense. 
    Lol Clinton did commit rape thought it's called workplace sexual harassment.  That's rape in my book. When the most powerful person in the company (i.e. world) has an intern provide a blow job - that's rape. Plain and simple.   Even if he thought it was "consensual." As with underage girls, there's no consent possible.
    Lol. Dude. This is your quote:
    "to be purely political, Bills rape came out before he was elected and Hillary attacked the victim.   And all of that happened before Hillary ran for senate or anything else.  Then he doubled down while in office.   If that doesn't bother you, I don't know what to tell you."

    You're talking about his accusations as if they were undisputed facts. With Trump, you're giving him a MUCH longer leash when it comes to the benefit of the doubt. 

    Just asking for some consistency.

    Be better.  

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  • njnancy
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    jeffbr said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    The utm_source=reddit.com doesn't mean the info in the article came from Reddit. That is a tag in the URL to track where it was seen. So someone found this article on Reddit. It could have had a tag from facebook, or no tag at all if it was directly from their website. The utm in the URL is just for analytics. Just wanted to clarify that your last point doesn't make sense. A CNN or Fox News report could have a utm_source of reddit if that is where it was posted and they used utm_source for analytics.
    Gotcha. Thanks. Ok. My bad.   

    I just checked MSNBC.com.  This story is not reported there.  Lol.   Acosta defending his sentencing is the headline. I'd think this would be front and center if other such news agencies thought it had even a modicum of fact. 
    It was the headline because he just held a press conference. 

    MSNBC has covered this aspect of this disgusting case. 

    I don't get what the LOL is for though. There is nothing funny in any way about this whole lurid story.
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Following a ton of circumstantial evidence of chauvinistic behaviour from Trump, over 20 sexual abuse allegations, and a legacy of hanging around with people like Epstein, and thus concluding that Trump likely has acted unsavourily, does not mean that anyone wants Trump to be proven unsavoury; it means we collectively have functional eyes and ears. If I smell smoke in a building on fire, does that also mean I want it to burn to the ground?
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    dignin Posts: 9,478
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    Trump was credibly accused of rape just a couple of weeks ago and it was barely a blip in the news. It just went on the "Trump is a piece of shit" pile, which is absolutely gigantic.

    There's just so much shitty shit he's done and doing its hard to find a place to start, he's inundating us with so much. How does one keep up?

    And the supporters have the nerve to say "well if it was true it would be front page news". It's all pretty unbelievable.
     
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    dignin said:
    Trump was credibly accused of rape just a couple of weeks ago and it was barely a blip in the news. It just went on the "Trump is a piece of shit" pile, which is absolutely gigantic.

    There's just so much shitty shit he's done and doing its hard to find a place to start, he's inundating us with so much. How does one keep up?

    And the supporters have the nerve to say "well if it was true it would be front page news". It's all pretty unbelievable.
     
    Hey but the unemployment rate and stock market, right? Woot.
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    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    There are multiple instances of @EdsonNascimento casually talking about Bill Clinton's "history of rape" as concrete facts....yet here he is giving Trump, who has been accused by many more women and is even on tape admitting to sexually assaulting them simply because he is a celebrity, the benefit of the doubt. Gee. I wonder why?

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6591748#
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