Kaepernick
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Meltdown99 said:CK should get himself a sign and stand in front of the NYPD headquarters and protest...he has no real platform other than these well thought out marketing scams that tend to rile people up...and not that many people even care...maybe those here, but not many.
Meanwhile - for people living in the real world - 30 million views:https://youtu.be/Fq2CvmgoO7I
and:"Despite Outrage, Nike Sales Increased 31% After Kaepernick Ad"
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Meltdown99 said:CK should get himself a sign and stand in front of the NYPD headquarters and protest...he has no real platform other than these well thought out marketing scams that tend to rile people up...and not that many people even care...maybe those here, but not many.0
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Has anyone figured out wtf this flag is about?Detroit 2000, Detroit 2003 1-2, Grand Rapids VFC 2004, Philly 2005, Grand Rapids 2006, Detroit 2006, Cleveland 2006, Lollapalooza 2007, Detroit Eddie Solo 2011, Detroit 2014, Chicago 2016 1-2, Chicago 2018 1-2, Ohana Encore 2021 1-2, Chicago Eddie/Earthlings 2022 1-2, Nashville 2022, St. Louis 2022
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mrussel1 said:That's actually a really good point. Killing a marketing campaign may truly be his only megaphone now. And it only works so long as Nike releases information that it started at point A and ended at point B based on him. Now if they announce the Bull Connor memorial shoe and then kill it, we'll know what's up.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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I miss these guys
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mcgruff10 said:So everyone agrees that the flag isn't racist, cool.0
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Spiritual_Chaos said:I don't know what year this is.
But being another generation than you, I also played capture the flag as a boy.
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dignin said:I've not said either way. But is your insinuation that because something is in a museum it can't be racist? Or do you think that museums shouldn't have racist things? I'm not quite picking up what you're putting down.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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Hi! said:I miss these guysThey look familiar. I think they put out an album several years ago.All kidding aside, thank goodness for Pearl Jam for bringing us great music and because without them, this crazy place would not be here!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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mcgruff10 said:I was being sarcastic.0
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mcgruff10 said:I was being sarcastic."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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dignin said:No shit, but you were being sarcastic to make a point. What was the point?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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mrussel1 said:That's actually a really good point. Killing a marketing campaign may truly be his only megaphone now. And it only works so long as Nike releases information that it started at point A and ended at point B based on him. Now if they announce the Bull Connor memorial shoe and then kill it, we'll know what's up.Give Peas A Chance…0
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The irony is that the only people i see in this thread that are "outraged" are the same people that complain about "outrage" culture.0
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brianlux said:They look familiar. I think they put out an album several years ago.All kidding aside, thank goodness for Pearl Jam for bringing us great music and because without them, this crazy place would not be here!Post edited by Hi! on
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A flag cannot be racist. It's an inanimate object. If racist people use that flag for their agenda then that is their problem...
I suppose the Canadian flag could be considered racist considering what we did to 1st nations people...but it is not because flags are not capable of being racist...Give Peas A Chance…0 -
mrussel1 said:Do I seem outraged to you? I'm annoyed. There's a difference.
If I was a betting man someone contacted Kap or maybe he just got to see the shoes early and he said " Hey guys, here are some of the possible issues with these shoes" or something along that line. I highly doubt he ran to them "outraged" at the possibility of these shoes and demanded they pull them. Similar to his protest, it was calm, well thought out and nuanced. But that's just my guess.0 -
Meltdown99 said:A flag cannot be racist. It's an inanimate object. If racist people use that flag for their agenda then that is their problem..."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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dignin said:Exactly my point and why I used these " " . Most things in my opinion that people attribute to outrage is more of an annoyance.
If I was a betting man someone contacted Kap or maybe he just got to see the shoes early and he said " Hey guys, here are some of the possible issues with these shoes" or something along that line. I highly doubt he ran to them "outraged" at the possibility of these shoes and demanded they pull them. Similar to his protest, it was calm, well thought out and nuanced. But that's just my guess.
1. In this case, I don't think it's the left that is outraged, it's the right. When I talked about getting people 'riled' up earlier, I meant specifically the Fox News/Breitbart crowd for this issue. They are making a ton out of not much.
2. I think on the merits, Kap is wrong, but again, it's not outrage. I expressed multiple times why I think he's wrong and my irritation about ceding ground to the right. So I don't need to go through that again.
3. I don't know if it's most things are annoyance vs outrage, but there is definitely an outrage culture in this country. We careen back and forth. The Justin S. case was the whole enchilada in nice package. We got to be mad at racists and race baiters all in the same event! How awesomely sad was that?0
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