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  • brianlux
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    cincybearcat said:
    After watching a lot of the 1st one, I made a better choice tonight. Met some friend in from out of town for dinner and drinks. So much better
    Haha, not a bad choice.  I made it through much of it but got tired of all the yelling, silly crowd cheering section and hearing the same thing over and over. 

    Time to spin some records.
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    I SAW PEARL JAM
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    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • cincybearcat
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    Caught the end. Got to get yelled at by the grumpy old socialist and then see Biden (who looks really old all of a sudden). I think the party needs to get to 10 or less soon.
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    1-Kamala



    2-Bennett
    3-Pete

    Then everyone else. Kamala TKO’d Biden
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  • brianlux
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    dankind said:

    :lol: 
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  • brianlux
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    I was talking with my wife (who got home to late to watch) about the debates.  She dislikes Trump as much as anyone I know and said, "Trump has a lot of charisma.  His followers are like a cult.  The democrats need to find someone who can inspire and pull in enough votes to get Trump out of there." 

    I agree.  And that leaves me feeling a bit nervous.  I don't see anyone (yet) with the charisma and ability to present well and speak well the way Obama does.  What I saw tonight were:

    -Old men shaking fingers.
    -Women yelling (one nearly screeching).
    -Young men struggling and sweating.
    -More focus on immigration than environment (ruin the planet and everyone goes away).
    -Feeble attempts at nods to LGBTQ issues.
    -All of the above trying to out yell each other.

    Nothing inspiring there.
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  • pjhawks
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    cincybearcat said:
    Caught the end. Got to get yelled at by the grumpy old socialist and then see Biden (who looks really old all of a sudden). I think the party needs to get to 10 or less soon.
    Agree on Biden looking old. He sounds old too. It’s like he’s lost some since he was vp.  
  • Hi!
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    edited June 2019
    brianlux said:
    I was talking with my wife (who got home to late to watch) about the debates.  She dislikes Trump as much as anyone I know and said, "Trump has a lot of charisma.  His followers are like a cult.  The democrats need to find someone who can inspire and pull in enough votes to get Trump out of there." 

    I agree.  And that leaves me feeling a bit nervous.  I don't see anyone (yet) with the charisma and ability to present well and speak well the way Obama does.  What I saw tonight were:

    -Old men shaking fingers.
    -Women yelling (one nearly screeching).
    -Young men struggling and sweating.
    -More focus on immigration than environment (ruin the planet and everyone goes away).
    -Feeble attempts at nods to LGBTQ issues.
    -All of the above trying to out yell each other.

    Nothing inspiring there.
    I had that exact same feeling tonight. I think it’s referred to as “cult of personality” IDK 
    I do think it was a decent debate though, Harris did a great job.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Hi! said:
    brianlux said:
    I was talking with my wife (who got home to late to watch) about the debates.  She dislikes Trump as much as anyone I know and said, "Trump has a lot of charisma.  His followers are like a cult.  The democrats need to find someone who can inspire and pull in enough votes to get Trump out of there." 

    I agree.  And that leaves me feeling a bit nervous.  I don't see anyone (yet) with the charisma and ability to present well and speak well the way Obama does.  What I saw tonight were:

    -Old men shaking fingers.
    -Women yelling (one nearly screeching).
    -Young men struggling and sweating.
    -More focus on immigration than environment (ruin the planet and everyone goes away).
    -Feeble attempts at nods to LGBTQ issues.
    -All of the above trying to out yell each other.

    Nothing inspiring there.
    I had that exact same feeling tonight. I think it’s referred to as “cult of personality” IDK 

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  • Hi!
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    So, do y’all think Biden is finished? I do.

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  • PJ_Soul
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    edited June 2019
    brianlux said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    brianlux said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    IF NO ONE SPEAKS SPANISH TONIGHT I'M GONNA BE FUMING!
    Why?  This whole speaking Spanish thing is starting to sound like political correctness gone into over drive.  Will you be fuming just as much if global warming isn't given more time (you know I will be).   That's way more important to EVERYBODY!

    And don't get me wrong- I'm a big fan of our Hispanic citizens and neighbors to the south and their culture.  I know a fair amount of Spanish language myself, amigos y amigas.   And, in fact, as I write this, I'm eating fajitas.  (Hope I don't spill any into the keyboard!)
    People speaking Spanish isn't eating up time though, so what's the problem with it? I truly don't understand why anyone minds it. Like, okay okay, "identity politics"... soooo..... speaking a very common language used in America is irritating to people because it is meant to appeal to those who speak it?
    People speaking Spanish is not irritating to me.  But I don't think 11% is very common.  In California, yes.  New Mexico, Arizona and Texas yes.  Those who govern those states would do well to know some Spanish.  But the POTUS?  If he or she does, fine.  If not, fine.  There are much bigger issues.  Why has this become such a big issue?  I don't get it. 
    I think because it is new? A new way to show respect to a very large number of people who are discriminated against, especially lately? Let's not pretend that how Hispanics are perceived in America isn't an important issue, because it is. Yes, there are other big and important issues. But this isn't eating other issues, so I still don't understand what the problem is. I think it is certainly worthy of acknowledgement for the reasons I already said. And inclusion IS important.
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  • brianlux
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    Hi! said:
    brianlux said:
    I was talking with my wife (who got home to late to watch) about the debates.  She dislikes Trump as much as anyone I know and said, "Trump has a lot of charisma.  His followers are like a cult.  The democrats need to find someone who can inspire and pull in enough votes to get Trump out of there." 

    I agree.  And that leaves me feeling a bit nervous.  I don't see anyone (yet) with the charisma and ability to present well and speak well the way Obama does.  What I saw tonight were:

    -Old men shaking fingers.
    -Women yelling (one nearly screeching).
    -Young men struggling and sweating.
    -More focus on immigration than environment (ruin the planet and everyone goes away).
    -Feeble attempts at nods to LGBTQ issues.
    -All of the above trying to out yell each other.

    Nothing inspiring there.
    I had that exact same feeling tonight. I think it’s referred to as “cult of personality” IDK 
    I do think it was a decent debate though, Harris did a great job.
    Yeah, Kamala is smart.  She's a possibility.  If she were stronger on environment, I could get behind her.
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  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    brianlux said:
    Hi! said:
    brianlux said:
    I was talking with my wife (who got home to late to watch) about the debates.  She dislikes Trump as much as anyone I know and said, "Trump has a lot of charisma.  His followers are like a cult.  The democrats need to find someone who can inspire and pull in enough votes to get Trump out of there." 

    I agree.  And that leaves me feeling a bit nervous.  I don't see anyone (yet) with the charisma and ability to present well and speak well the way Obama does.  What I saw tonight were:

    -Old men shaking fingers.
    -Women yelling (one nearly screeching).
    -Young men struggling and sweating.
    -More focus on immigration than environment (ruin the planet and everyone goes away).
    -Feeble attempts at nods to LGBTQ issues.
    -All of the above trying to out yell each other.

    Nothing inspiring there.
    I had that exact same feeling tonight. I think it’s referred to as “cult of personality” IDK 
    I do think it was a decent debate though, Harris did a great job.
    Yeah, Kamala is smart.  She's a possibility.  If she were stronger on environment, I could get behind her.
    Hmm, during the climate change parts of the debate I thought she gave some really solid answers. Hard for people to elaborate more due to time constraints obviously, but I thought she was strong on the issue of climate change. I liked how she referred to Trump as a threat to national security due his beliefs in climate fiction over climate facts.

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  • brianlux
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    Hi! said:
    brianlux said:
    Hi! said:
    brianlux said:
    I was talking with my wife (who got home to late to watch) about the debates.  She dislikes Trump as much as anyone I know and said, "Trump has a lot of charisma.  His followers are like a cult.  The democrats need to find someone who can inspire and pull in enough votes to get Trump out of there." 

    I agree.  And that leaves me feeling a bit nervous.  I don't see anyone (yet) with the charisma and ability to present well and speak well the way Obama does.  What I saw tonight were:

    -Old men shaking fingers.
    -Women yelling (one nearly screeching).
    -Young men struggling and sweating.
    -More focus on immigration than environment (ruin the planet and everyone goes away).
    -Feeble attempts at nods to LGBTQ issues.
    -All of the above trying to out yell each other.

    Nothing inspiring there.
    I had that exact same feeling tonight. I think it’s referred to as “cult of personality” IDK 
    I do think it was a decent debate though, Harris did a great job.
    Yeah, Kamala is smart.  She's a possibility.  If she were stronger on environment, I could get behind her.
    Hmm, during the climate change parts of the debate I thought she gave some really solid answers. Hard for people to elaborate more due to time constraints obviously, but I thought she was strong on the issue of climate change. I liked how she referred to Trump as a threat to national security due his beliefs in climate fiction over climate facts.
    Good to know!  I missed that part.  Our reception here goes in and out.  I missed about 1/3 of the debate.
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    brianlux said:
    Hi! said:
    brianlux said:
    Hi! said:
    brianlux said:
    I was talking with my wife (who got home to late to watch) about the debates.  She dislikes Trump as much as anyone I know and said, "Trump has a lot of charisma.  His followers are like a cult.  The democrats need to find someone who can inspire and pull in enough votes to get Trump out of there." 

    I agree.  And that leaves me feeling a bit nervous.  I don't see anyone (yet) with the charisma and ability to present well and speak well the way Obama does.  What I saw tonight were:

    -Old men shaking fingers.
    -Women yelling (one nearly screeching).
    -Young men struggling and sweating.
    -More focus on immigration than environment (ruin the planet and everyone goes away).
    -Feeble attempts at nods to LGBTQ issues.
    -All of the above trying to out yell each other.

    Nothing inspiring there.
    I had that exact same feeling tonight. I think it’s referred to as “cult of personality” IDK 
    I do think it was a decent debate though, Harris did a great job.
    Yeah, Kamala is smart.  She's a possibility.  If she were stronger on environment, I could get behind her.
    Hmm, during the climate change parts of the debate I thought she gave some really solid answers. Hard for people to elaborate more due to time constraints obviously, but I thought she was strong on the issue of climate change. I liked how she referred to Trump as a threat to national security due his beliefs in climate fiction over climate facts.
    Good to know!  I missed that part.  Our reception here goes in and out.  I missed about 1/3 of the debate.
    Oh, and she supports the green new deal. 

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  • oftenreading
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    brianlux said:
    Hi! said:
    brianlux said:
    Hi! said:
    brianlux said:
    I was talking with my wife (who got home to late to watch) about the debates.  She dislikes Trump as much as anyone I know and said, "Trump has a lot of charisma.  His followers are like a cult.  The democrats need to find someone who can inspire and pull in enough votes to get Trump out of there." 

    I agree.  And that leaves me feeling a bit nervous.  I don't see anyone (yet) with the charisma and ability to present well and speak well the way Obama does.  What I saw tonight were:

    -Old men shaking fingers.
    -Women yelling (one nearly screeching).
    -Young men struggling and sweating.
    -More focus on immigration than environment (ruin the planet and everyone goes away).
    -Feeble attempts at nods to LGBTQ issues.
    -All of the above trying to out yell each other.

    Nothing inspiring there.
    I had that exact same feeling tonight. I think it’s referred to as “cult of personality” IDK 
    I do think it was a decent debate though, Harris did a great job.
    Yeah, Kamala is smart.  She's a possibility.  If she were stronger on environment, I could get behind her.
    Hmm, during the climate change parts of the debate I thought she gave some really solid answers. Hard for people to elaborate more due to time constraints obviously, but I thought she was strong on the issue of climate change. I liked how she referred to Trump as a threat to national security due his beliefs in climate fiction over climate facts.
    Good to know!  I missed that part.  Our reception here goes in and out.  I missed about 1/3 of the debate.

    Your reception? Are you living in 1979, Brian? ;)
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  • brianlux
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    oftenreading said:
    brianlux said:
    Hi! said:
    brianlux said:
    Hi! said:
    brianlux said:
    I was talking with my wife (who got home to late to watch) about the debates.  She dislikes Trump as much as anyone I know and said, "Trump has a lot of charisma.  His followers are like a cult.  The democrats need to find someone who can inspire and pull in enough votes to get Trump out of there." 

    I agree.  And that leaves me feeling a bit nervous.  I don't see anyone (yet) with the charisma and ability to present well and speak well the way Obama does.  What I saw tonight were:

    -Old men shaking fingers.
    -Women yelling (one nearly screeching).
    -Young men struggling and sweating.
    -More focus on immigration than environment (ruin the planet and everyone goes away).
    -Feeble attempts at nods to LGBTQ issues.
    -All of the above trying to out yell each other.

    Nothing inspiring there.
    I had that exact same feeling tonight. I think it’s referred to as “cult of personality” IDK 
    I do think it was a decent debate though, Harris did a great job.
    Yeah, Kamala is smart.  She's a possibility.  If she were stronger on environment, I could get behind her.
    Hmm, during the climate change parts of the debate I thought she gave some really solid answers. Hard for people to elaborate more due to time constraints obviously, but I thought she was strong on the issue of climate change. I liked how she referred to Trump as a threat to national security due his beliefs in climate fiction over climate facts.
    Good to know!  I missed that part.  Our reception here goes in and out.  I missed about 1/3 of the debate.

    Your reception? Are you living in 1979, Brian? ;)
    Haha!  Oh, that was a great year.  Yeah, I could get stuck there!  :smiley:

    No, we're in a semi rural area that requires satellite (or maybe there is cable here now, I'm not sure) and I'm just not enough of a TV guy to pay for that much for the little TV I watch.  I have you and the others here to keep me plenty amused.  :smile: 
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  • oftenreading
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    brianlux said:
    oftenreading said:
    brianlux said:
    Hi! said:
    brianlux said:
    Hi! said:
    brianlux said:
    I was talking with my wife (who got home to late to watch) about the debates.  She dislikes Trump as much as anyone I know and said, "Trump has a lot of charisma.  His followers are like a cult.  The democrats need to find someone who can inspire and pull in enough votes to get Trump out of there." 

    I agree.  And that leaves me feeling a bit nervous.  I don't see anyone (yet) with the charisma and ability to present well and speak well the way Obama does.  What I saw tonight were:

    -Old men shaking fingers.
    -Women yelling (one nearly screeching).
    -Young men struggling and sweating.
    -More focus on immigration than environment (ruin the planet and everyone goes away).
    -Feeble attempts at nods to LGBTQ issues.
    -All of the above trying to out yell each other.

    Nothing inspiring there.
    I had that exact same feeling tonight. I think it’s referred to as “cult of personality” IDK 
    I do think it was a decent debate though, Harris did a great job.
    Yeah, Kamala is smart.  She's a possibility.  If she were stronger on environment, I could get behind her.
    Hmm, during the climate change parts of the debate I thought she gave some really solid answers. Hard for people to elaborate more due to time constraints obviously, but I thought she was strong on the issue of climate change. I liked how she referred to Trump as a threat to national security due his beliefs in climate fiction over climate facts.
    Good to know!  I missed that part.  Our reception here goes in and out.  I missed about 1/3 of the debate.

    Your reception? Are you living in 1979, Brian? ;)
    Haha!  Oh, that was a great year.  Yeah, I could get stuck there!  :smiley:

    No, we're in a semi rural area that requires satellite (or maybe there is cable here now, I'm not sure) and I'm just not enough of a TV guy to pay for that much for the little TV I watch.  I have you and the others here to keep me plenty amused.  :smile: 

    Not that great a year for me, but then again I was a tender age :lol:

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