17 year old dutch rape victim denied euthania starves self to death.

catefrances
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edited June 2019 in A Moving Train
ok so turns out noa wasnt euthanised, but died from starvation because she was denied euthanasia. either way its still a very sad story. 

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/17-year-old-dutch-girl-who-was-raped-as-a-child-is-legally-euthanized/ar-AACouuW?ocid=spartanntp  

A 17-year-old Dutch girl chose to be euthanized at her home last week after she said the pain of being raped and molested as a child had become “unbearable.”

Noa Pothoven, from Arnhem, Netherlands, wrote in an Instagram post a day before her death that she breathes “but no longer lives.” Her sister confirmed her death on Sunday. The Dutch first legalized euthanasia in 2001, the same year that Pothoven was born.

“It’s finished. I have not really been alive for so long, I survive, and not even that... I will get straight to the point: within a maximum of 10 days I will die,” Pothoven wrote in her native Dutch on Saturday. “After years of battling and fighting, I am drained. I have quit eating and drinking for a while now, and after many discussions and evaluations, it was decided to let me go because my suffering is unbearable.”

“I deliberated for quite a while whether or not I should share this, but decided to do it anyway,” Pothoven wrote to her over 9,000 followers on Instagram. “Maybe this comes as a surprise to some, given my posts about hospitalization, but my plan has been there for a long time and is not impulsive.”

Pothoven openly shared her long struggle dealing with post-traumatic stress disorder, depression, and anorexia on social media. The teenager also penned an award-winning autobiography titled Winning or Learning, which detailed her assault and rape at a young age and her work to try and overcome the psychological ramifications. She concealed the sexual abuse for many years out of a sense of shame and fear, according to reports.

In her book, she wrote that she was sexually assaulted at a school party when she was 11-years-old, and was raped by two men just three years later when she was 14 years old.

Her mother, Lisette, said at the time that her daughter’s book should be mandatory reading for social workers and those responsible for adolescent psychological care. She also publicly criticized the fragmented mental-health system in the Netherlands, calling the bureaucracy “maddening.”

Pothoven had previously sought services at the End of Life Clinic in The Hague, but was reportedly turned away due to her age. Children as young as 12 can legally seek to be euthanized in the Netherlands, but a doctor must first determine that the patient’s pain is unbearable before they can be accepted. Seven such cases were accepted between 2002 and 2015, according to Alliance Vita, an international association that aids individuals and policymakers dealing with bioethical issues.

The practice was intended for those suffering from terminal cancer and similar excruciating physical conditions, but the law also allows people suffering from severe psychological pain to seek euthanasia. It is limited to those with intact mental faculties and “unbearable and hopeless suffering.”

Under Dutch law, the patient must repeatedly ask to die, a second doctor must agree in writing that the death is justified, and a post-mortem panel, made up of a doctor, a jurist, and an ethics expert, have to confirm that those requirements have been met.

Many in the country still feel uncomfortable with legal euthanasia, particularly for minors and those suffering from psychiatric illnesses.

Lisa Westerveld, a member of the House of Representatives of the Netherlands, reportedly visited Pothoven at her home in the days leading up to her death. “It was nice to see her again. It is also very unreal,” Westerveld told Dutch newspaper de Gelderlander. “Noa was incredibly strong and very open. I will never forget her. We will continue her struggle.”

Pothoven told her followers not to try and talk her out of the drastic decision. “This is my decision and it is final,” she wrote. “Love is letting go, in this case.”



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  • Renfield
    Renfield NYC NY Posts: 1,054
    There are no words....I’m at a complete loss for words. I hope Noa has found peace.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Devastating.  :frowning:
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    That is one of the saddest things I have ever seen.
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  • mickeyrat
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    My sister, 31 yrs gone now. OD......
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  • brianlux
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    mickeyrat said:
    My sister, 31 yrs gone now. OD......
    Oh man, I'm sorry.

    My friend M.  She drank herself literally to death in her 30's for the same reason.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    edited June 2019

    Find the rapists and charge them with murder. 

    What a terrible thing for someone to feel so hopeless that they end their life after only 17 years.

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  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    This is heartbreaking.
  • mfc2006
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    Wow...no words at all.
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    josevolution Posts: 31,642
    Man that’s crushing I feel such sadness over this and I look at my daughter and know I’m beyond blessed...
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  • Renfield
    Renfield NYC NY Posts: 1,054
    mickeyrat said:
    My sister, 31 yrs gone now. OD......
    I’m so sorry about your sister. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,452
    Renfield said:
    mickeyrat said:
    My sister, 31 yrs gone now. OD......
    I’m so sorry about your sister. 
    thank you. Amanda was about 6 to 7 weeks shy of turning 16.  wow shes been gone about twice as long as she was here.

    having read some comments on adbook under this article I wanted to illustrate it happens anyway without direct medical assistance.

    I would assume or hope that young lady had loved ones with her as she went.
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    At least it wasn't painful. I'd rather go out that way than by a violent and painful method like hanging or shooting.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,791
    mickeyrat said:
    My sister, 31 yrs gone now. OD......

    I'm sorry, Mickey.
  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,406
    Wow, no words...
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    What a tragic, heartbreaking story. And Mickey, my condolences. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    edited June 2019
    At least it wasn't painful. I'd rather go out that way than by a violent and painful method like hanging or shooting.
    Of course. Obviously this is a terrible story and just completely tragic, and there are all kinds of things I could say about what this poor girl went through and about the issue of the threats girls and women have to deal with, and the lack of support available to them. But instead I will look at the issue of euthanasia and how it was used in this case. I think this is a groundbreaking case that is actually positive solely in terms of the precedent it sets for euthanasia and how it's applied. I am a huge advocate for doctor assisted suicide, and think that the laws surrounding it are too strict when it comes to the reasons used to justify doing it. I think everyone over the age of 16 should be able to end their life if they want to, assuming they meet the mental health standards (i.e. are of sound mind at the time of the decision, or expressed their desires in a legal document when they were of sound mind). That this was done for someone with crippling depression and simply no desire to live anymore out of sheer misery (which is so so sad) is a true milestone for people who want complete autonomy over their own selves. I think that forcing people who want to die to resort to hanging and ODing and shooting themselves in the face and jumping off buildings is completely inhumane, to both the person who wants to end their life, and to their loved ones.
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  • jeffbr
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    PJ_Soul said:
    At least it wasn't painful. I'd rather go out that way than by a violent and painful method like hanging or shooting.
    Of course. Obviously this is a terrible story and just completely tragic, and there are all kinds of things I could say about what this poor girl went through and about the issue of the threats girls and women have to deal with, and the lack of support available to them. But instead I will look at the issue of euthanasia and how it was used in this case. I think this is a groundbreaking case that is actually positive solely in terms of the precedent it sets for euthanasia and how it's applied. I am a huge advocate for doctor assisted suicide, and think that the laws surrounding it are too strict when it comes to the reasons used to justify doing it. I think everyone over the age of 16 should be able to end their life if they want to, assuming they meet the mental health standards (i.e. are of sound mind at the time of the decision, or expressed their desires in a legal document when they were of sound mind). That this was done for someone with crippling depression and simply no desire to live anymore out of sheer misery (which is so so sad) is a true milestone for people who want complete autonomy over their own selves. I think that forcing people who want to die to resort to hanging and ODing and shooting themselves in the face and jumping off buildings is complete in humane, to both the person who wants to end their life, and to their loved ones.
    I was thinking the same thing about this story. While I'm pleased that my state passed a euthanasia or "death with dignity" law, it really is quite strict and limited to terminal illness with a bunch of stipulations and rules. It certainly wouldn't cover a case like this. I, like you, believe that we each should have the ultimate control over our lives and our bodies, and what this young woman did, while tragic, was her choice as it should be. What she did was the ultimate expression of liberty and freedom. I'm sorry she felt that this was the choice she had to take, but glad this option was available as opposed to something less fool proof, more painful, or more damaging to those she left behind.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    PJ_Soul said:
    At least it wasn't painful. I'd rather go out that way than by a violent and painful method like hanging or shooting.
    Of course. Obviously this is a terrible story and just completely tragic, and there are all kinds of things I could say about what this poor girl went through and about the issue of the threats girls and women have to deal with, and the lack of support available to them. But instead I will look at the issue of euthanasia and how it was used in this case. I think this is a groundbreaking case that is actually positive solely in terms of the precedent it sets for euthanasia and how it's applied. I am a huge advocate for doctor assisted suicide, and think that the laws surrounding it are too strict when it comes to the reasons used to justify doing it. I think everyone over the age of 16 should be able to end their life if they want to, assuming they meet the mental health standards (i.e. are of sound mind at the time of the decision, or expressed their desires in a legal document when they were of sound mind). That this was done for someone with crippling depression and simply no desire to live anymore out of sheer misery (which is so so sad) is a true milestone for people who want complete autonomy over their own selves. I think that forcing people who want to die to resort to hanging and ODing and shooting themselves in the face and jumping off buildings is completely inhumane, to both the person who wants to end their life, and to their loved ones.
    This is very sad. I honestly do not know what to think about this. My first inclination was to think that this shouldn’t be implemented for cases of depression, etc. But I really don’t know. If it was my daughter I’d be heartbroken at what happened to her and then heartbroken at her decision. There are no winners in a situation like this. 
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  • Jammalambo
    Jammalambo Posts: 1,321
    What a shitty world this is.. if there was a bit of justice, her rapists should have been offered to her as an attempt trying to heal her soul, if possible at all.. like, they should have given her the opportunity to kill those pieces of shit, and see if that was of any help. Why she had to go, and those useless fuckers are still here?