Michelle Obama - "Divorced Dad" comment

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,785
    cincybearcat said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/16/politics/michelle-obama-donald-trump/index.html

    I get her overall point here.  As a dad (not divorced), it kinda sucks that this is the way we look at the Dads.  I don't want to get overly outraged here as she was just trying to use a metaphor, but I would have expected more from her.



    Not a criticism on you, CIncy, but The link wrecked absolute havoc with my computer.  I had to force close.  Anybody else have issues with this?

    I did read part of the article.  I find Michelle's metaphor to be a bit awkward.  I don't think of Trump as divorce dad.   Not all divorce dads are dysfunctional.  Sometimes the marriage just doesn't work due to both parties.  Just "dysfunctional"work work for me.

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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,671
    People are upset by her quote? I see him as the abusive dad, so what she said is a softball. 
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,671
    The Juggler said:
    The sweet irony oozing throughout this thread is just delicious.
    Trump’s too much if a dimwit to come up with analogies, so  both sides! argument here doesn’t work.  
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,659
    edited April 2019
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    tbergs said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    remember when trump made that joke to megan kelly about blood coming out of her wherever because she was asking him tough questions? and everyone on the left got all pissy about it? but it was just a joke, about a well established stereotype, so what was all the fuss about then?

    it's really strange how the only people "outraged" by anything is the fact that anyone wants to talk about it. 
    You're comparing Trump making fun of a woman's natural bodily function and Michele criticising a dad who chooses to be a poor role model and parental figure? Again, not even the same fucking ballpark.
    he used a stereotype to label any strong woman with a well thought out opinion as on her period. 

    she used a stereotype to label any divorced single dad as an negligent asshole. 

    but yeah, of course, it's never "in the same fucking ballpark". it never is. 



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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,659
    edited April 2019
    Go Beavers said:
    People are upset by her quote? I see him as the abusive dad, so what she said is a softball. 
    SAYING THERE ARE DADS WHO ARE ABUSIVE EVEN WHEN WE HAVE ALL SEEN ALICE COOPER PLAY ONE IN FREDDY'S DEAD: THE FINAL NIGHTMARE -- AND IT'S AN IMMEDIATE AND EASY VISUAL WITH ROOTS IN REALITY -- IS A SHITTY GENERALIZATION BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE BEING OUTRAGED FOR NO REASON!  


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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    Go Beavers said:
    People are upset by her quote? I see him as the abusive dad, so what she said is a softball. 
    Hahahahaha you think I’m upset she called trump something? Nope. But using “divorced dad” instead of deadbeat dad or whatever seems kinda harsh for divorced dads 
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  • josevolution
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    cincybearcat said:
    So - I have a serious question. I even stated that this is not something to get all upset about but that it was a very weird metaphor...and I think inappropriate. And I didn’t expect it from Michelle.

    so - people here really don’t care at all about this? Saying that divorced dads all don’t care about there kids and just do the fun stuff? You all are ok with keeping that line of thinking going? 

    Perhaps it’s fine, but then I’m sure hoping we can feel free to make all the other generalizations too. Please don’t jump all over my opinion like some Jew who saw a penny....wait...is that not ok? 
    The country is about to enter a constitutional crisis and this is what has you upset , man this totally belongs in the outrage thread and please refrain from using the term retard thanks ...
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Go Beavers said:
    People are upset by her quote? I see him as the abusive dad, so what she said is a softball. 
    An out of context, half kidding, metaphor of a joke at that, that wasn’t even televised. Weird thing to start a thread about. 

    Its like being outraged over the movie “Old School’s” depiction of Vince Vaughn’s character and how he treats his kid. Ear muffs! I know he’s not divorced but that’s the first thing I thought of. It’s a funny stereotype people have. It’s not like she’s joking or making disparaging remarks about a group of people who’ve been persecuted and marginalized over the course of history like our president does constantly. 

    I think people need lighten up a bit. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    josevolution said:
    cincybearcat said:
    So - I have a serious question. I even stated that this is not something to get all upset about but that it was a very weird metaphor...and I think inappropriate. And I didn’t expect it from Michelle.

    so - people here really don’t care at all about this? Saying that divorced dads all don’t care about there kids and just do the fun stuff? You all are ok with keeping that line of thinking going? 

    Perhaps it’s fine, but then I’m sure hoping we can feel free to make all the other generalizations too. Please don’t jump all over my opinion like some Jew who saw a penny....wait...is that not ok? 
    The country is about to enter a constitutional crisis and this is what has you upset , man this totally belongs in the outrage thread and please refrain from using the term retard thanks ...
    Ummmm did you even read my first post? 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,113
    cincybearcat said:
    josevolution said:
    cincybearcat said:
    So - I have a serious question. I even stated that this is not something to get all upset about but that it was a very weird metaphor...and I think inappropriate. And I didn’t expect it from Michelle.

    so - people here really don’t care at all about this? Saying that divorced dads all don’t care about there kids and just do the fun stuff? You all are ok with keeping that line of thinking going? 

    Perhaps it’s fine, but then I’m sure hoping we can feel free to make all the other generalizations too. Please don’t jump all over my opinion like some Jew who saw a penny....wait...is that not ok? 
    The country is about to enter a constitutional crisis and this is what has you upset , man this totally belongs in the outrage thread and please refrain from using the term retard thanks ...
    Ummmm did you even read my first post? 
    Yes I get what you’re saying but I don’t think it deserves any attention at this point in time , she tried to make a metaphor about what this country is going through and she failed ..
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,698
    cincybearcat said:
    Go Beavers said:
    People are upset by her quote? I see him as the abusive dad, so what she said is a softball. 
    Hahahahaha you think I’m upset she called trump something? Nope. But using “divorced dad” instead of deadbeat dad or whatever seems kinda harsh for divorced dads 
    Come to think of it, those two phrases are similar-sounding.  Any chance she meant to say “deadbeat dad?” 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    OnWis97 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Go Beavers said:
    People are upset by her quote? I see him as the abusive dad, so what she said is a softball. 
    Hahahahaha you think I’m upset she called trump something? Nope. But using “divorced dad” instead of deadbeat dad or whatever seems kinda harsh for divorced dads 
    Come to think of it, those two phrases are similar-sounding.  Any chance she meant to say “deadbeat dad?” 
    Good question. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    josevolution said:
    cincybearcat said:
    josevolution said:
    cincybearcat said:
    So - I have a serious question. I even stated that this is not something to get all upset about but that it was a very weird metaphor...and I think inappropriate. And I didn’t expect it from Michelle.

    so - people here really don’t care at all about this? Saying that divorced dads all don’t care about there kids and just do the fun stuff? You all are ok with keeping that line of thinking going? 

    Perhaps it’s fine, but then I’m sure hoping we can feel free to make all the other generalizations too. Please don’t jump all over my opinion like some Jew who saw a penny....wait...is that not ok? 
    The country is about to enter a constitutional crisis and this is what has you upset , man this totally belongs in the outrage thread and please refrain from using the term retard thanks ...
    Ummmm did you even read my first post? 
    Yes I get what you’re saying but I don’t think it deserves any attention at this point in time , she tried to make a metaphor about what this country is going through and she failed ..
    Yeah not a huge deal, just seemed out of character for her. 


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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,202
    cincybearcat said:
    josevolution said:
    cincybearcat said:
    josevolution said:
    cincybearcat said:
    So - I have a serious question. I even stated that this is not something to get all upset about but that it was a very weird metaphor...and I think inappropriate. And I didn’t expect it from Michelle.

    so - people here really don’t care at all about this? Saying that divorced dads all don’t care about there kids and just do the fun stuff? You all are ok with keeping that line of thinking going? 

    Perhaps it’s fine, but then I’m sure hoping we can feel free to make all the other generalizations too. Please don’t jump all over my opinion like some Jew who saw a penny....wait...is that not ok? 
    The country is about to enter a constitutional crisis and this is what has you upset , man this totally belongs in the outrage thread and please refrain from using the term retard thanks ...
    Ummmm did you even read my first post? 
    Yes I get what you’re saying but I don’t think it deserves any attention at this point in time , she tried to make a metaphor about what this country is going through and she failed ..
    Yeah not a huge deal, just seemed out of character for her. 


    Agreed, that was my main point.  Michelle is much better than that.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    The tan suit of threads.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    dignin said:
    The tan suit of threads.

    Exactly. We’re better than this. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited April 2019
    So reading through this thread, here is my profound thought:
    I would rather hang out with a divorced dad over the weekend than with a mom on the rag...
     
    carry on
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    Diggin and Juggler are continuing to try and make this thread something it wasn't.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,418
    The Juggler said:
    dignin said:
    The tan suit of threads.

    Exactly. We’re better than this. 


    It's ok to point out MOs comment was surprisingly a bit sexist and stereotypes men without getting bent out of shape about it... Considering who occupies the White House these days.


  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,033
    njnancy said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    njnancy said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Honestly Nancy your first post was “trump is worse”. Your second defended that post. After that and all the other posts coming at me...I may have missed your other ones
    Honestly Cincy, I don't know why I try to offer a chance to have a real conversation. I spend time thinking about a response and you just dismiss me. Sorry you missed everything except what you found to be offensive. I tried. 
    i went back and read your posts in this thread. as he stated, your first post was referencing trump and how he is worse. your only other post directly responding to cincy was something you misinterpreted, and sometimes people miss posts directed at them. 

    i'm not sure where all of this aggression towards cincy is coming from. it's really weird. 
    Thank you for your interpretation of my posts. It is incorrect and I am not being aggressive towards Cincy. I don't understand why you picked the comment that you picked, perhaps because it makes me seem like I'm being mean to Cincy, but you can interpret my words and intentions however you want. If you and Cincy did not find my first posts important that does not mean they were not valid. Disagreeing does not equal aggression. 

    I don't enjoy when threads turn into this kind of crap and I don't appreciate you trying to reprimand me. I have no quarrel with you but please don't selectively pick my posts apart or tell me that my opinion was incorrect. 

    You are of course entitled to your opinion of whatever and whoever you wish. I don't wish to be mean to anyone on here or be misinterpreted as attacking someone if I disagree. I have been told on numerous occasions that I am too sensitive and take things too personally. That is true sometimes. Today I know that I have not had any mean intentions and my only disappointment is that civil debate is obviously something that no one is interested in. If it were, you would have seen that I tried to discuss the article instead of posting what you did. 

    Enjoy your night. 
    The aggression comment was more directed at others. yours just seems overly defensive. 

    not sure where you were getting I was "reprimanding" you. I was merely giving my take on your post directed at cincy. if you take that as reprimanding, well, I don't really know how to respond to that. 
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