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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited April 2019
    Question: Do any of you guys/girls think Trump's proposed border-wall is racist? Just the border wall. Not other Trumpisms that may or may not be racist. No Stephen Miller or how the separated families at the border have been treated. Just the concept of a border-wall. Do you think it's racist?
    I mean, no wall is racist. But Trump's motives behind making it his pet project are definitely rooted in racism - both his own and the most solid portion of his base. So TRUMP'S wall is indeed racist.
    IF a non-racist who wasn't using it to lead on his racist supporters wanted to build it... It would still be a ridiculous waste of money, a huge blight on the environment, and an untenable thing to maintain. And mrussel1 was right about it being a symbol of tyranny and isolation too. America only became successful the way it did because it STOPPED isolating itself... not sure why anyone would want to go backwards on that.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    my2hands said:
    Who are people I learned about in 6th grade,  Alex.

    I'll take children's riddles for $200 please. 
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Yeah I'm on the "dumb, ineffective, and costly" side too as far as the border-wall goes. But I sure do hear a lot of people suggesting it's racist, which I don't really agree with. I wonder if that narrative would be different if Trump wasn't so blunt with his language (They're sending murderers, rapists, etc...). I felt that quote led to left-leaning folks crying foul that "we're all a nation of immigrants!" And Trump could have responded "Whoa, whoa. I said ILLEGAL immigrants. Not all immigrants! My wife's an immigrant!" Not that he would have said that, but before he even would have had a chance, a lot of right-leaning folks were like "Yeah fuck those Mexicans!" This could have been ANOTHER chance for Trump to say "No! ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are who I'm talking about!" But no, he just fanned the flames of racism. And now, politically, it seems like there's no middle-ground. You're either a racist that supports the wall (per the left), or you're someone that wants as many illegal immigrants to come as possible so they'll vote democrat (per the right).
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,452
    edited April 2019
    Another White Nationalist supporter of the
    White Nationalist-in-Chief....

    "Authorities also believe she's involved with pro-Trump "Trump 2020" vandalism around the area."



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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Another White Nationalist supporter of the
    White Nationalist-in-Chief....

    "Authorities also believe she's involved with pro-Trump "Trump 2020" vandalism around the area."



    "Allison spoke at length about her racist beliefs and her efforts [to] 'wake people up,'" the affidavit concluded.

    She's trying to make people woke! 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,531
    Question: Do any of you guys/girls think Trump's proposed border-wall is racist? Just the border wall. Not other Trumpisms that may or may not be racist. No Stephen Miller or how the separated families at the border have been treated. Just the concept of a border-wall. Do you think it's racist?

    inherently racist? no. illogical to address the problem? absolutely.

    one of the primary reasons our country was founded was property rights. you cant build the wasll as hoped for by pres dickhead without infringing on those rights.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    mickeyrat said:
    Question: Do any of you guys/girls think Trump's proposed border-wall is racist? Just the border wall. Not other Trumpisms that may or may not be racist. No Stephen Miller or how the separated families at the border have been treated. Just the concept of a border-wall. Do you think it's racist?

    inherently racist? no. illogical to address the problem? absolutely.
    I feel the same way. 
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Who are people I learned about in 6th grade,  Alex.

    I'll take children's riddles for $200 please. 
    Says the guy pretending to be a 6th grade bully... 

    Nothing wrong with a refresher on peaceful non-violent resistance... you have a problem with that too?

    You gonna beat me up now? Lol
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Who are people I learned about in 6th grade,  Alex.

    I'll take children's riddles for $200 please. 
    Says the guy pretending to be a 6th grade bully... 

    Nothing wrong with a refresher on peaceful non-violent resistance... you have a problem with that too?

    You gonna beat me up now? Lol
    So if I wanted to punch the Parkland shooter in the face,  would that make me a bully? 

    What about the Charlottesville neo nazis? Bully? 

    Stop playing such a stupid game. Everyone is onto you. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    Yeah I'm on the "dumb, ineffective, and costly" side too as far as the border-wall goes. But I sure do hear a lot of people suggesting it's racist, which I don't really agree with. I wonder if that narrative would be different if Trump wasn't so blunt with his language (They're sending murderers, rapists, etc...). I felt that quote led to left-leaning folks crying foul that "we're all a nation of immigrants!" And Trump could have responded "Whoa, whoa. I said ILLEGAL immigrants. Not all immigrants! My wife's an immigrant!" Not that he would have said that, but before he even would have had a chance, a lot of right-leaning folks were like "Yeah fuck those Mexicans!" This could have been ANOTHER chance for Trump to say "No! ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are who I'm talking about!" But no, he just fanned the flames of racism. And now, politically, it seems like there's no middle-ground. You're either a racist that supports the wall (per the left), or you're someone that wants as many illegal immigrants to come as possible so they'll vote democrat (per the right).
    Yes, the way Trump has framed the debate is in a racist way.  It's deliberate. 
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Who are people I learned about in 6th grade,  Alex.

    I'll take children's riddles for $200 please. 
    Says the guy pretending to be a 6th grade bully... 

    Nothing wrong with a refresher on peaceful non-violent resistance... you have a problem with that too?

    You gonna beat me up now? Lol
    So if I wanted to punch the Parkland shooter in the face,  would that make me a bully? 

    What about the Charlottesville neo nazis? Bully? 

    Stop playing such a stupid game. Everyone is onto you. 
    #1 - that would not make you a bully... But, Stephen Miller & Trump are now mass school shooters?

    #2 - if they were being peaceful, and you attacked them, that would be an act of unprovoked violence and not cool... if they became violent and you were defending yourself or someone else, i've got no problem with it. Is Miller or Trump a violent neo-nazi rioting and physically attacking you? By the way, you live in Virginia and had your chance

    I guess being peaceful, advocating for my side to not even entertain it, and believing in non-violent resistance make me a dick? Cool bro. You're 46 fantasizing about beating up a 72 year old man and a skinny awkward poltical wonk nerd, that's weaksauce in my world, and honestly a bit surprising coming from the normally centered  moderate... anyway, have a nice night

    Peace

  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,452
    And another  one's  gone.....

    Acting No. 2 at Homeland Security latest to leave department https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/politics/acting-deputy-secretary-dhs-resignation/index.html
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,452
    edited April 2019
    He @josevolution feel free to bully this guy....


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Who are people I learned about in 6th grade,  Alex.

    I'll take children's riddles for $200 please. 
    Says the guy pretending to be a 6th grade bully... 

    Nothing wrong with a refresher on peaceful non-violent resistance... you have a problem with that too?

    You gonna beat me up now? Lol
    So if I wanted to punch the Parkland shooter in the face,  would that make me a bully? 

    What about the Charlottesville neo nazis? Bully? 

    Stop playing such a stupid game. Everyone is onto you. 
    #1 - that would not make you a bully... But, Stephen Miller & Trump are now mass school shooters?

    #2 - if they were being peaceful, and you attacked them, that would be an act of unprovoked violence and not cool... if they became violent and you were defending yourself or someone else, i've got no problem with it. Is Miller or Trump a violent neo-nazi rioting and physically attacking you? By the way, you live in Virginia and had your chance

    I guess being peaceful, advocating for my side to not even entertain it, and believing in non-violent resistance make me a dick? Cool bro. You're 46 fantasizing about beating up a 72 year old man and a skinny awkward poltical wonk nerd, that's weaksauce in my world, and honestly a bit surprising coming from the normally centered  moderate... anyway, have a nice night

    Peace

    Whoa,  who said anything about unprovoked? You think im going to walk up to Miller and punch him? I already said I would never risk my life and family on an assualt charge.  Im talking about a controlled cage match or ring.  Are you demented or something? 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,531
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Who are people I learned about in 6th grade,  Alex.

    I'll take children's riddles for $200 please. 
    Says the guy pretending to be a 6th grade bully... 

    Nothing wrong with a refresher on peaceful non-violent resistance... you have a problem with that too?

    You gonna beat me up now? Lol
    So if I wanted to punch the Parkland shooter in the face,  would that make me a bully? 

    What about the Charlottesville neo nazis? Bully? 

    Stop playing such a stupid game. Everyone is onto you. 
    side note on parkland douche. been writing women who have written him. apparently taking about children. and naming them after guns......
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Who are people I learned about in 6th grade,  Alex.

    I'll take children's riddles for $200 please. 
    Says the guy pretending to be a 6th grade bully... 

    Nothing wrong with a refresher on peaceful non-violent resistance... you have a problem with that too?

    You gonna beat me up now? Lol
    So if I wanted to punch the Parkland shooter in the face,  would that make me a bully? 

    What about the Charlottesville neo nazis? Bully? 

    Stop playing such a stupid game. Everyone is onto you. 
    side note on parkland douche. been writing women who have written him. apparently taking about children. and naming them after guns......
    I saw that... no remorse 

    He's scum. If I ever had 5 minutes with him,  I'd read him a sternly written letter that I would prepare in advance. 
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Who are people I learned about in 6th grade,  Alex.

    I'll take children's riddles for $200 please. 
    Says the guy pretending to be a 6th grade bully... 

    Nothing wrong with a refresher on peaceful non-violent resistance... you have a problem with that too?

    You gonna beat me up now? Lol
    So if I wanted to punch the Parkland shooter in the face,  would that make me a bully? 

    What about the Charlottesville neo nazis? Bully? 

    Stop playing such a stupid game. Everyone is onto you. 
    side note on parkland douche. been writing women who have written him. apparently taking about children. and naming them after guns......
    I saw that... no remorse 

    He's scum. If I ever had 5 minutes with him,  I'd read him a sternly written letter that I would prepare in advance. 
    Ha - touche' .
  • mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Who are people I learned about in 6th grade,  Alex.

    I'll take children's riddles for $200 please. 
    Says the guy pretending to be a 6th grade bully... 

    Nothing wrong with a refresher on peaceful non-violent resistance... you have a problem with that too?

    You gonna beat me up now? Lol
    So if I wanted to punch the Parkland shooter in the face,  would that make me a bully? 

    What about the Charlottesville neo nazis? Bully? 

    Stop playing such a stupid game. Everyone is onto you. 
    side note on parkland douche. been writing women who have written him. apparently taking about children. and naming them after guns......
    I saw that... no remorse 

    He's scum. If I ever had 5 minutes with him,  I'd read him a sternly written letter that I would prepare in advance. 
    Hahahhhahaha
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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