The Democratic Candidates

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,723
    benjs said: We all have red blood after all, and we should show that.
    We should show that we all have red blood? That’s kinda sick!
    hippiemom = goodness
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,312
    mrussel1 said:
    The Jews celebrate the purge?  Crazy!  
    Not sure what the purge is! This is Purim (one of several Jewish holidays centered around _________ was trying to ________ us and failed, so let's celebrate with food and drink). 
    Purim: Haman was trying to kill us, he failed, let's eat and drink
    Passover: Pharaoh was enslaving us, we got away, let's eat and drink
    Channukah: The temple was destroyed, we've got a new one but only enough oil for one day - lasted eight - let's eat and drink
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,312
    We should show that we all have red blood? That’s kinda sick!
    Smart-ass :) 
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,723
    benjs said:
    Smart-ass :) 
    I’ll add that to the list .... idiotic, dick, sexist...smart-ass!!!!
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,590
    benjs said:
    Not sure what the purge is! This is Purim (one of several Jewish holidays centered around _________ was trying to ________ us and failed, so let's celebrate with food and drink). 
    Purim: Haman was trying to kill us, he failed, let's eat and drink
    Passover: Pharaoh was enslaving us, we got away, let's eat and drink
    Channukah: The temple was destroyed, we've got a new one but only enough oil for one day - lasted eight - let's eat and drink
    Sounds like a pretty good religion, except for all the escapes from certain death.  
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,312
    I’ll add that to the list .... idiotic, dick, sexist...smart-ass!!!!
    Hey, leave me out of those other ones! 
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,312
    mrussel1 said:
    Sounds like a pretty good religion, except for all the escapes from certain death.  
    It's good for family togetherness. And for if you want to claim elitist status or rationalize murder or oppression through that status. 
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,723
    benjs said:
    Hey, leave me out of those other ones! 
    ;)
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,590
    benjs said:
    It's good for family togetherness. And for if you want to claim elitist status or rationalize murder or oppression through that status. 
    It's the American dream. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,590
    Here's a nice analysis of Mayor Pete by a conservative, and a gay one at that, the very thoughtful Andrew Sullivan.  I don't think we should discount his take on the immigration issue.  
    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/is-pete-buttigieg-a-transformational-candidate.html
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,372
    mrussel1 said:
    I learned troll yesterday, you learned echo chamber.  We're even.  
    On a slightly different note, I do apologize for calling you a dick yesterday.  I went too far.  My bad.  I still think your comment to PJ Soul was dickish though, but that does not necessarily make you an actual phallus..maybe a taint?  Kidding.  
    Thanks for asking the question mrussel1! Even though we never got an answer. :)
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,361
    benjs said:
    Not sure what the purge is! This is Purim (one of several Jewish holidays centered around _________ was trying to ________ us and failed, so let's celebrate with food and drink). 
    Purim: Haman was trying to kill us, he failed, let's eat and drink
    Passover: Pharaoh was enslaving us, we got away, let's eat and drink
    Channukah: The temple was destroyed, we've got a new one but only enough oil for one day - lasted eight - let's eat and drink


    Purim Jam
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,388
    benjs said:
    mrussel, I want to be careful not to offend, and want to start by admitting personal bias here, as I'm not a fan of religion. I went through religious day school when I was younger, and I still have anger and resentment for being forced to pray to a god I don't believe in, as some form of penance for not doing homework. Sitting in a room as an atheist depressed teenager, in tears, while one of the shittiest humans I've ever had the displeasure of meeting was on the other side, yelling at me to pray louder because she couldn't hear me, is an image that over fifteen years later I've been unable to shake. I've seen and heard too many other examples of exertion of undue influence over weak and impressionable minds, rationalized by an obligation to spread a gospel which is inherently unprovable, to believe that religion is used authentically to lead a value-driven discussion or life in most cases. 

    With that being said, as long as there's a willingness to invite debate on religion-founded statements and to treat religion the way I really believe you believe it (which is that there are good values that could be shared and discussed - and not that there are good voters who could be swayed), I'm cool with that. I really feel that sharing and discussing ways to improve ourselves is part of our obligation as a race that wishes to have more tomorrows, but it has to be dialogue and not (pun intended) set in stone.
    look up the video of his appearance on real time with bill maher. maher asks him about his faith in a very condescending way imo. pete was graceful in how he not only handled it but answered the broader question.....
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2019
    mickeyrat said:
    look up the video of his appearance on real time with bill maher. maher asks him about his faith in a very condescending way imo. pete was graceful in how he not only handled it but answered the broader question.....
    I've seen that and I fully agree! And regarding Maher - condescending is always his go-to tone.
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    mickeyrat said:
    look up the video of his appearance on real time with bill maher. maher asks him about his faith in a very condescending way imo. pete was graceful in how he not only handled it but answered the broader question.....
    He also said we are being far too condescending to those we disagree with and it's hurting us.... Andrew Sullivan repeated the same message 15 minutes later...... their message is simple, stop being condescending name-calling jerks to those we disagree with.... 

    Bill Maher, and the rest of us on the left, need to take that advice to heart
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,590
    It will be interesting to see if Pete can get any traction with the African American community.  In particular, the older members tend to be much less liberal on gay marriage. I hope his faith can help bridge that gap, giving them a common language, but we shall see. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,590
    New poll conducted between 4/4 and 4/7 in MA.  
    1. Warren in third in her home state.  Ouch.  Doesn't bode well.  
    2. Sanders strong in the NE.  No real surprise there.  
    3. Biden still hanging tough, considering this poll was conducted after the shenanigans of the last two weeks.  

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/437770-warren-places-third-in-2020-poll-of-massachusetts
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,590
    Oh and Pete still growing as people become aware.  He will have to be reckoned with.  
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,262
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh and Pete still growing as people become aware.  He will have to be reckoned with.  
    I sure hope so. Sounds genuine and up-to-date.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,201
    Beto comes off as a guy that reads a "What to say to Democrat Voters on (today's date)" handbook before any public speech.  I have yet to perceive leadership qualities that I would want a POTUS to have. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,262
    Jason P said:
    Beto comes off as a guy that reads a "What to say to Democrat Voters on (today's date)" handbook before any public speech.  I have yet to perceive leadership qualities that I would want a POTUS to have. 
    Agree.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    Biden/Harris
    Biden/Abrams
    Biden/Sanders
    Biden/Some other woman
    Biden/Booker


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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,262
    Hi! said:
    Biden/Harris
    Biden/Abrams
    Biden/Sanders
    Biden/Some other woman
    Biden/Booker


    Give up Biden.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,723
    Give up Biden.
    Is that a list of Biden’s future victims? 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • EnkiduEnkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    Jason P said:
    Beto comes off as a guy that reads a "What to say to Democrat Voters on (today's date)" handbook before any public speech.  I have yet to perceive leadership qualities that I would want a POTUS to have. 
    Also agree.  I just read Pete Buttigieg's book and was very impressed - wow, to have a smart person as president.  But can a gay man win (I say that wishing the answer was yes, of course)?  

    I asked my 21 year old daughter what she thought of the candidates - she likes Warren, but thinks she's too "out there."  She used to like Bernie, but now thinks he's "crazy."  She likes Kamala and Beto.  And thinks Biden is "way too old."  
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Give up Biden.
    Why? He won't surrender the rust belt, will select a minority VP, and the Obama's will hit the street hard for him....

    He's still the best bet

    Mayor Pete is catching fire with young progressives, he will quickly settle into the top 3-5 candidates... i like the guy, not sure i'm hitting the button in the primary for him though... i'm honestly a little worried about running a 37 year old homosexual small city mayor in this election, we cannot fuck around and risk 4 more years.... 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,262
    my2hands said:
    Why? He won't surrender the rust belt, will select a minority VP, and the Obama's will hit the street hard for him....

    He's still the best bet

    Mayor Pete is catching fire with young progressives, he will quickly settle into the top 3-5 candidates... i like the guy, not sure i'm hitting the button in the primary for him though... i'm honestly a little worried about running a 37 year old homosexual small city mayor in this election, we cannot fuck around and risk 4 more years.... 
    You live in the Greatest Country in the World™ -- why would you have to worry about Trump being elected instead of a sane canditate like Pete?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    You live in the Greatest Country in the World™ -- why would you have to worry about Trump being elected instead of a sane canditate like Pete?
    Because as Alexander Hamilton once said: "The masses are asses." 

    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,372

    Rep. Eric Swalwell of California joins crowded field of 2020 Democratic presidential hopefuls

    The four-term congressman, who has been a frequent guest on cable news programs as well as a visitor to Iowa over the past couple of years, added his name to the long list of people vying for the Democrats’ 2020 presidential nomination.

    Swalwell, 38, formally announced the campaign during an appearance on CBS’s “Late Show with Stephen Colbert.”
    This is a developing story. It will be updated.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2019/04/08/rep-eric-swalwell-of-california-joins-crowded-field-of-2020-democratic-presidential-hopefuls/?utm_term=.3a0d5b5cf6d5&wpisrc=al_politics__alert-politics&wpmk=1



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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,312
    You live in the Greatest Country in the World™ -- why would you have to worry about Trump being elected instead of a sane canditate like Pete?
    Pretty sure you're the only one who regularly calls it that (even in satire).
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
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