The Democratic Candidates
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Yes, please. I’d like to hear more from different perspectives but the thing that strikes me was their ability to slice and dice the electorate to pit them against each other and the amount of time prior to the election that they began their efforts, 2013. Gee? Who else was in Russia in 2013? Hmmmmm.benjs said:
There've been a few Democracy Now and Intercepted podcast episodes about this too and they're quite fascinating - I can try to find the episodes I listened to if you're interested in hearing them.Halifax2TheMax said:
If folks haven’t yet, they really need to listen to the pod cast mickeyrat posted regarding troll farms.benjs said:
Also bear in mind the misinformation campaigns we should come to expect at this point. I would bet money that at least some of the top ranked responses to that tweet are paid trolls, though unfortunately, none of us will ever know.OnWis97 said:
It's not the golfer...mrussel1 said:
Don't apply one statement from one retired golfer, to 40% of the country... I'm a Democrat and not a snowflake. Are you either of those?OnWis97 said:I don't know who the non-golfer Tom Watson is either. And maybe he has a special brand of snowflake followers, but it's disheartening to see a bunch of people come on and call Buttigieg a sexist for critiquing a slogan. I take back everything I've said about the double-standards; the left really are the snowflakes.
He has 36,000 followers...a lot but not tons. Calls himself a journalist. Calls himself a liberal and clearly believes Hillary getting the nomination was a great moment in history to the point that bringing up the terrible results is wrong. The question is, are the replies that agree with him symptomatic of the left; or at least the most steadfast Hillary-supporting left? I guess I don't know but I did not like seeing that. There were a lot of people there that I assume don't like Trump that basically said "I won't vote for him" for something that I think would be a stretch to even call a minor gaffe. Sometimes it seems like we take the "high road" by tearing our own down just so we don't look like the GOP letting Trump get away with everything. Again, the people who happened to respond? Certainly not a cross-section. I still feel it's concerning. I never really thought Buttigieg was going to win the nomination anyway. But he's persona non grata with some pro-Hillary folks. Gillibrand is with much of the left for what she did to Franken. Warren is with the middle for her ethnicity kerfuffle. Meanwhile Trump just keeps on being worse than all of 'em combined and nobody cares.
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Huffington Post is menace number one in trying to take down candidates.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes, please. I’d like to hear more from different perspectives but the thing that strikes me was their ability to slice and dice the electorate to pit them against each other and the amount of time prior to the election that they began their efforts, 2013. Gee? Who else was in Russia in 2013? Hmmmmm.benjs said:
There've been a few Democracy Now and Intercepted podcast episodes about this too and they're quite fascinating - I can try to find the episodes I listened to if you're interested in hearing them.Halifax2TheMax said:
If folks haven’t yet, they really need to listen to the pod cast mickeyrat posted regarding troll farms.benjs said:
Also bear in mind the misinformation campaigns we should come to expect at this point. I would bet money that at least some of the top ranked responses to that tweet are paid trolls, though unfortunately, none of us will ever know.OnWis97 said:
It's not the golfer...mrussel1 said:
Don't apply one statement from one retired golfer, to 40% of the country... I'm a Democrat and not a snowflake. Are you either of those?OnWis97 said:I don't know who the non-golfer Tom Watson is either. And maybe he has a special brand of snowflake followers, but it's disheartening to see a bunch of people come on and call Buttigieg a sexist for critiquing a slogan. I take back everything I've said about the double-standards; the left really are the snowflakes.
He has 36,000 followers...a lot but not tons. Calls himself a journalist. Calls himself a liberal and clearly believes Hillary getting the nomination was a great moment in history to the point that bringing up the terrible results is wrong. The question is, are the replies that agree with him symptomatic of the left; or at least the most steadfast Hillary-supporting left? I guess I don't know but I did not like seeing that. There were a lot of people there that I assume don't like Trump that basically said "I won't vote for him" for something that I think would be a stretch to even call a minor gaffe. Sometimes it seems like we take the "high road" by tearing our own down just so we don't look like the GOP letting Trump get away with everything. Again, the people who happened to respond? Certainly not a cross-section. I still feel it's concerning. I never really thought Buttigieg was going to win the nomination anyway. But he's persona non grata with some pro-Hillary folks. Gillibrand is with much of the left for what she did to Franken. Warren is with the middle for her ethnicity kerfuffle. Meanwhile Trump just keeps on being worse than all of 'em combined and nobody cares.
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How so? I guess I’d have to read Huff Post? I’m talking more about the twitterverse and reading the comments and memes and Instagram or website comments sections. How do you know those posts are from real folks of whatever persuasion? And it’s going to get far worse with doctored video, computer generated voice overs, etc. You better go see the candidates in person and then check to make sure it’s not a body double or automatron.mrussel1 said:
Huffington Post is menace number one in trying to take down candidates.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes, please. I’d like to hear more from different perspectives but the thing that strikes me was their ability to slice and dice the electorate to pit them against each other and the amount of time prior to the election that they began their efforts, 2013. Gee? Who else was in Russia in 2013? Hmmmmm.benjs said:
There've been a few Democracy Now and Intercepted podcast episodes about this too and they're quite fascinating - I can try to find the episodes I listened to if you're interested in hearing them.Halifax2TheMax said:
If folks haven’t yet, they really need to listen to the pod cast mickeyrat posted regarding troll farms.benjs said:
Also bear in mind the misinformation campaigns we should come to expect at this point. I would bet money that at least some of the top ranked responses to that tweet are paid trolls, though unfortunately, none of us will ever know.OnWis97 said:
It's not the golfer...mrussel1 said:
Don't apply one statement from one retired golfer, to 40% of the country... I'm a Democrat and not a snowflake. Are you either of those?OnWis97 said:I don't know who the non-golfer Tom Watson is either. And maybe he has a special brand of snowflake followers, but it's disheartening to see a bunch of people come on and call Buttigieg a sexist for critiquing a slogan. I take back everything I've said about the double-standards; the left really are the snowflakes.
He has 36,000 followers...a lot but not tons. Calls himself a journalist. Calls himself a liberal and clearly believes Hillary getting the nomination was a great moment in history to the point that bringing up the terrible results is wrong. The question is, are the replies that agree with him symptomatic of the left; or at least the most steadfast Hillary-supporting left? I guess I don't know but I did not like seeing that. There were a lot of people there that I assume don't like Trump that basically said "I won't vote for him" for something that I think would be a stretch to even call a minor gaffe. Sometimes it seems like we take the "high road" by tearing our own down just so we don't look like the GOP letting Trump get away with everything. Again, the people who happened to respond? Certainly not a cross-section. I still feel it's concerning. I never really thought Buttigieg was going to win the nomination anyway. But he's persona non grata with some pro-Hillary folks. Gillibrand is with much of the left for what she did to Franken. Warren is with the middle for her ethnicity kerfuffle. Meanwhile Trump just keeps on being worse than all of 'em combined and nobody cares.
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ReadHuffPo. They have become Breitbart left with their hit jobs on Democrats that they feel like are insufficiently 'woke'.Halifax2TheMax said:
How so? I guess I’d have to read Huff Post? I’m talking more about the twitterverse and reading the comments and memes and Instagram or website comments sections. How do you know those posts are from real folks of whatever persuasion? And it’s going to get far worse with doctored video, computer generated voice overs, etc. You better go see the candidates in person and then check to make sure it’s not a body double or automatron.mrussel1 said:
Huffington Post is menace number one in trying to take down candidates.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes, please. I’d like to hear more from different perspectives but the thing that strikes me was their ability to slice and dice the electorate to pit them against each other and the amount of time prior to the election that they began their efforts, 2013. Gee? Who else was in Russia in 2013? Hmmmmm.benjs said:
There've been a few Democracy Now and Intercepted podcast episodes about this too and they're quite fascinating - I can try to find the episodes I listened to if you're interested in hearing them.Halifax2TheMax said:
If folks haven’t yet, they really need to listen to the pod cast mickeyrat posted regarding troll farms.benjs said:
Also bear in mind the misinformation campaigns we should come to expect at this point. I would bet money that at least some of the top ranked responses to that tweet are paid trolls, though unfortunately, none of us will ever know.OnWis97 said:
It's not the golfer...mrussel1 said:
Don't apply one statement from one retired golfer, to 40% of the country... I'm a Democrat and not a snowflake. Are you either of those?OnWis97 said:I don't know who the non-golfer Tom Watson is either. And maybe he has a special brand of snowflake followers, but it's disheartening to see a bunch of people come on and call Buttigieg a sexist for critiquing a slogan. I take back everything I've said about the double-standards; the left really are the snowflakes.
He has 36,000 followers...a lot but not tons. Calls himself a journalist. Calls himself a liberal and clearly believes Hillary getting the nomination was a great moment in history to the point that bringing up the terrible results is wrong. The question is, are the replies that agree with him symptomatic of the left; or at least the most steadfast Hillary-supporting left? I guess I don't know but I did not like seeing that. There were a lot of people there that I assume don't like Trump that basically said "I won't vote for him" for something that I think would be a stretch to even call a minor gaffe. Sometimes it seems like we take the "high road" by tearing our own down just so we don't look like the GOP letting Trump get away with everything. Again, the people who happened to respond? Certainly not a cross-section. I still feel it's concerning. I never really thought Buttigieg was going to win the nomination anyway. But he's persona non grata with some pro-Hillary folks. Gillibrand is with much of the left for what she did to Franken. Warren is with the middle for her ethnicity kerfuffle. Meanwhile Trump just keeps on being worse than all of 'em combined and nobody cares.
Here was their lead yesterday.. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/beto-orourke-white-men-2020_n_5c90fe72e4b0d50545005fca
This was the lead from the other day https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-middle-class_n_5c8032d8e4b06ff26ba55799
What gives me hope is the comments section. Whereas on Breitbart, as I"m sure you know, they compete to see who can say the craziest, racist thing, on HuffPo, a strong majority of the comments are highly critical of HuffPo and their design to divide Democrats and push their preferred candidates, usually Warren although there's a strong Bernie bent too. They also time the articles to connect with key events. For example the Biden hit job came the same day that some people close to Biden said they were sure he was going to run. It's a total rag since Ariana sold it. Plus the writing is amateurish. It was good back in the day.0 -
Just my impression, but I feel Huffpost favors Bernie big time.
I really enjoyed Huffpost, but after this article came up a couple weeks ago on their front page, I’ve been wondering.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c7ecae7e4b06ff26ba30daa
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It does favor Bernie. And I can't unsee that girl's blood smeared on her face. Thank you.Hi! said:Just my impression, but I feel Huffpost favors Bernie big time.
I really enjoyed Huffpost, but after this article came up a couple weeks ago on their front page, I’ve been wondering.
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It does favor Bernie. And I can't unsee that girl's blood smeared on her face. Thank you.Hi! said:Just my impression, but I feel Huffpost favors Bernie big time.
I really enjoyed Huffpost, but after this article came up a couple weeks ago on their front page, I’ve been wondering.
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Is it helping you getting over the stigma?mrussel1 said:
It does favor Bernie. And I can't unsee that girl's blood smeared on her face. Thank you.Hi! said:Just my impression, but I feel Huffpost favors Bernie big time.
I really enjoyed Huffpost, but after this article came up a couple weeks ago on their front page, I’ve been wondering.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c7ecae7e4b06ff26ba30daa"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
mrussel1 said:
ReadHuffPo. They have become Breitbart left with their hit jobs on Democrats that they feel like are insufficiently 'woke'.Halifax2TheMax said:
How so? I guess I’d have to read Huff Post? I’m talking more about the twitterverse and reading the comments and memes and Instagram or website comments sections. How do you know those posts are from real folks of whatever persuasion? And it’s going to get far worse with doctored video, computer generated voice overs, etc. You better go see the candidates in person and then check to make sure it’s not a body double or automatron.mrussel1 said:
Huffington Post is menace number one in trying to take down candidates.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes, please. I’d like to hear more from different perspectives but the thing that strikes me was their ability to slice and dice the electorate to pit them against each other and the amount of time prior to the election that they began their efforts, 2013. Gee? Who else was in Russia in 2013? Hmmmmm.benjs said:
There've been a few Democracy Now and Intercepted podcast episodes about this too and they're quite fascinating - I can try to find the episodes I listened to if you're interested in hearing them.Halifax2TheMax said:
If folks haven’t yet, they really need to listen to the pod cast mickeyrat posted regarding troll farms.benjs said:
Also bear in mind the misinformation campaigns we should come to expect at this point. I would bet money that at least some of the top ranked responses to that tweet are paid trolls, though unfortunately, none of us will ever know.OnWis97 said:
It's not the golfer...mrussel1 said:
Don't apply one statement from one retired golfer, to 40% of the country... I'm a Democrat and not a snowflake. Are you either of those?OnWis97 said:I don't know who the non-golfer Tom Watson is either. And maybe he has a special brand of snowflake followers, but it's disheartening to see a bunch of people come on and call Buttigieg a sexist for critiquing a slogan. I take back everything I've said about the double-standards; the left really are the snowflakes.
He has 36,000 followers...a lot but not tons. Calls himself a journalist. Calls himself a liberal and clearly believes Hillary getting the nomination was a great moment in history to the point that bringing up the terrible results is wrong. The question is, are the replies that agree with him symptomatic of the left; or at least the most steadfast Hillary-supporting left? I guess I don't know but I did not like seeing that. There were a lot of people there that I assume don't like Trump that basically said "I won't vote for him" for something that I think would be a stretch to even call a minor gaffe. Sometimes it seems like we take the "high road" by tearing our own down just so we don't look like the GOP letting Trump get away with everything. Again, the people who happened to respond? Certainly not a cross-section. I still feel it's concerning. I never really thought Buttigieg was going to win the nomination anyway. But he's persona non grata with some pro-Hillary folks. Gillibrand is with much of the left for what she did to Franken. Warren is with the middle for her ethnicity kerfuffle. Meanwhile Trump just keeps on being worse than all of 'em combined and nobody cares.
Here was their lead yesterday.. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/beto-orourke-white-men-2020_n_5c90fe72e4b0d50545005fca
This was the lead from the other day https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-middle-class_n_5c8032d8e4b06ff26ba55799
What gives me hope is the comments section. Whereas on Breitbart, as I"m sure you know, they compete to see who can say the craziest, racist thing, on HuffPo, a strong majority of the comments are highly critical of HuffPo and their design to divide Democrats and push their preferred candidates, usually Warren although there's a strong Bernie bent too. They also time the articles to connect with key events. For example the Biden hit job came the same day that some people close to Biden said they were sure he was going to run. It's a total rag since Ariana sold it. Plus the writing is amateurish. It was good back in the day.
They sound a lot like Young Turks. I wouldn't call it dividing Democrats, but more standing up for true progressives.
TYT believes the national networks, such as MSCNN , NYT and WaPo, favor corporate/establishment democrats, are very influenced by right wing media and are all very critical of true progressives.0 -
Not the direction I would encourage.mrussel1 said:
Huffington Post is menace number one in trying to take down candidates.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes, please. I’d like to hear more from different perspectives but the thing that strikes me was their ability to slice and dice the electorate to pit them against each other and the amount of time prior to the election that they began their efforts, 2013. Gee? Who else was in Russia in 2013? Hmmmmm.benjs said:
There've been a few Democracy Now and Intercepted podcast episodes about this too and they're quite fascinating - I can try to find the episodes I listened to if you're interested in hearing them.Halifax2TheMax said:
If folks haven’t yet, they really need to listen to the pod cast mickeyrat posted regarding troll farms.benjs said:
Also bear in mind the misinformation campaigns we should come to expect at this point. I would bet money that at least some of the top ranked responses to that tweet are paid trolls, though unfortunately, none of us will ever know.OnWis97 said:
It's not the golfer...mrussel1 said:
Don't apply one statement from one retired golfer, to 40% of the country... I'm a Democrat and not a snowflake. Are you either of those?OnWis97 said:I don't know who the non-golfer Tom Watson is either. And maybe he has a special brand of snowflake followers, but it's disheartening to see a bunch of people come on and call Buttigieg a sexist for critiquing a slogan. I take back everything I've said about the double-standards; the left really are the snowflakes.
He has 36,000 followers...a lot but not tons. Calls himself a journalist. Calls himself a liberal and clearly believes Hillary getting the nomination was a great moment in history to the point that bringing up the terrible results is wrong. The question is, are the replies that agree with him symptomatic of the left; or at least the most steadfast Hillary-supporting left? I guess I don't know but I did not like seeing that. There were a lot of people there that I assume don't like Trump that basically said "I won't vote for him" for something that I think would be a stretch to even call a minor gaffe. Sometimes it seems like we take the "high road" by tearing our own down just so we don't look like the GOP letting Trump get away with everything. Again, the people who happened to respond? Certainly not a cross-section. I still feel it's concerning. I never really thought Buttigieg was going to win the nomination anyway. But he's persona non grata with some pro-Hillary folks. Gillibrand is with much of the left for what she did to Franken. Warren is with the middle for her ethnicity kerfuffle. Meanwhile Trump just keeps on being worse than all of 'em combined and nobody cares.
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Why do you have to write a hit piece on white guys in one article and Joe Biden on the other to stick up for progressive principles?Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
ReadHuffPo. They have become Breitbart left with their hit jobs on Democrats that they feel like are insufficiently 'woke'.Halifax2TheMax said:
How so? I guess I’d have to read Huff Post? I’m talking more about the twitterverse and reading the comments and memes and Instagram or website comments sections. How do you know those posts are from real folks of whatever persuasion? And it’s going to get far worse with doctored video, computer generated voice overs, etc. You better go see the candidates in person and then check to make sure it’s not a body double or automatron.mrussel1 said:
Huffington Post is menace number one in trying to take down candidates.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes, please. I’d like to hear more from different perspectives but the thing that strikes me was their ability to slice and dice the electorate to pit them against each other and the amount of time prior to the election that they began their efforts, 2013. Gee? Who else was in Russia in 2013? Hmmmmm.benjs said:
There've been a few Democracy Now and Intercepted podcast episodes about this too and they're quite fascinating - I can try to find the episodes I listened to if you're interested in hearing them.Halifax2TheMax said:
If folks haven’t yet, they really need to listen to the pod cast mickeyrat posted regarding troll farms.benjs said:
Also bear in mind the misinformation campaigns we should come to expect at this point. I would bet money that at least some of the top ranked responses to that tweet are paid trolls, though unfortunately, none of us will ever know.OnWis97 said:
It's not the golfer...mrussel1 said:
Don't apply one statement from one retired golfer, to 40% of the country... I'm a Democrat and not a snowflake. Are you either of those?OnWis97 said:I don't know who the non-golfer Tom Watson is either. And maybe he has a special brand of snowflake followers, but it's disheartening to see a bunch of people come on and call Buttigieg a sexist for critiquing a slogan. I take back everything I've said about the double-standards; the left really are the snowflakes.
He has 36,000 followers...a lot but not tons. Calls himself a journalist. Calls himself a liberal and clearly believes Hillary getting the nomination was a great moment in history to the point that bringing up the terrible results is wrong. The question is, are the replies that agree with him symptomatic of the left; or at least the most steadfast Hillary-supporting left? I guess I don't know but I did not like seeing that. There were a lot of people there that I assume don't like Trump that basically said "I won't vote for him" for something that I think would be a stretch to even call a minor gaffe. Sometimes it seems like we take the "high road" by tearing our own down just so we don't look like the GOP letting Trump get away with everything. Again, the people who happened to respond? Certainly not a cross-section. I still feel it's concerning. I never really thought Buttigieg was going to win the nomination anyway. But he's persona non grata with some pro-Hillary folks. Gillibrand is with much of the left for what she did to Franken. Warren is with the middle for her ethnicity kerfuffle. Meanwhile Trump just keeps on being worse than all of 'em combined and nobody cares.
Here was their lead yesterday.. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/beto-orourke-white-men-2020_n_5c90fe72e4b0d50545005fca
This was the lead from the other day https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-middle-class_n_5c8032d8e4b06ff26ba55799
What gives me hope is the comments section. Whereas on Breitbart, as I"m sure you know, they compete to see who can say the craziest, racist thing, on HuffPo, a strong majority of the comments are highly critical of HuffPo and their design to divide Democrats and push their preferred candidates, usually Warren although there's a strong Bernie bent too. They also time the articles to connect with key events. For example the Biden hit job came the same day that some people close to Biden said they were sure he was going to run. It's a total rag since Ariana sold it. Plus the writing is amateurish. It was good back in the day.
They sound a lot like Young Turks. I wouldn't call it dividing Democrats, but more standing up for true progressives.
TYT believes the national networks, such as MSCNN , NYT and WaPo, favor corporate/establishment democrats, are very influenced by right wing media and are all very critical of true progressives.0 -
Yes I feel super woke now. How could I have been such a fool to not understand the value of blood smeared on one's face? I was so repressed.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Is it helping you getting over the stigma?mrussel1 said:
It does favor Bernie. And I can't unsee that girl's blood smeared on her face. Thank you.Hi! said:Just my impression, but I feel Huffpost favors Bernie big time.
I really enjoyed Huffpost, but after this article came up a couple weeks ago on their front page, I’ve been wondering.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c7ecae7e4b06ff26ba30daa0 -
so gross. I'm all for ending the stigma, but sorry, that's gross.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Is it helping you getting over the stigma?mrussel1 said:
It does favor Bernie. And I can't unsee that girl's blood smeared on her face. Thank you.Hi! said:Just my impression, but I feel Huffpost favors Bernie big time.
I really enjoyed Huffpost, but after this article came up a couple weeks ago on their front page, I’ve been wondering.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c7ecae7e4b06ff26ba30daaYour boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:
so gross. I'm all for ending the stigma, but sorry, that's gross.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Is it helping you getting over the stigma?mrussel1 said:
It does favor Bernie. And I can't unsee that girl's blood smeared on her face. Thank you.Hi! said:Just my impression, but I feel Huffpost favors Bernie big time.
I really enjoyed Huffpost, but after this article came up a couple weeks ago on their front page, I’ve been wondering.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c7ecae7e4b06ff26ba30daaAgreed. Super gross. There's gotta by a better way to disrupt the stigma than that FFS. I mean, if anything, she's hurting her own cause.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Is there really a stigma to this day? If so, I don't know what it is.PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:
so gross. I'm all for ending the stigma, but sorry, that's gross.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Is it helping you getting over the stigma?mrussel1 said:
It does favor Bernie. And I can't unsee that girl's blood smeared on her face. Thank you.Hi! said:Just my impression, but I feel Huffpost favors Bernie big time.
I really enjoyed Huffpost, but after this article came up a couple weeks ago on their front page, I’ve been wondering.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c7ecae7e4b06ff26ba30daaAgreed. Super gross. There's gotta by a better way to disrupt the stigma than that FFS. I mean, if anything, she's hurting her own cause.0 -
mrussel1 said:
Is there really a stigma to this day? If so, I don't know what it is.PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:
so gross. I'm all for ending the stigma, but sorry, that's gross.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Is it helping you getting over the stigma?mrussel1 said:
It does favor Bernie. And I can't unsee that girl's blood smeared on her face. Thank you.Hi! said:Just my impression, but I feel Huffpost favors Bernie big time.
I really enjoyed Huffpost, but after this article came up a couple weeks ago on their front page, I’ve been wondering.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c7ecae7e4b06ff26ba30daaAgreed. Super gross. There's gotta by a better way to disrupt the stigma than that FFS. I mean, if anything, she's hurting her own cause.That's news to me too in this day and age. The whole things reeks of attention-getting to me.And what on earth is a "sex coach" and why would anyone want a sex coach?"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I agree, it's counterproductive.mrussel1 said:
Why do you have to write a hit piece on white guys in one article and Joe Biden on the other to stick up for progressive principles?Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
ReadHuffPo. They have become Breitbart left with their hit jobs on Democrats that they feel like are insufficiently 'woke'.Halifax2TheMax said:
How so? I guess I’d have to read Huff Post? I’m talking more about the twitterverse and reading the comments and memes and Instagram or website comments sections. How do you know those posts are from real folks of whatever persuasion? And it’s going to get far worse with doctored video, computer generated voice overs, etc. You better go see the candidates in person and then check to make sure it’s not a body double or automatron.mrussel1 said:
Huffington Post is menace number one in trying to take down candidates.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes, please. I’d like to hear more from different perspectives but the thing that strikes me was their ability to slice and dice the electorate to pit them against each other and the amount of time prior to the election that they began their efforts, 2013. Gee? Who else was in Russia in 2013? Hmmmmm.benjs said:
There've been a few Democracy Now and Intercepted podcast episodes about this too and they're quite fascinating - I can try to find the episodes I listened to if you're interested in hearing them.Halifax2TheMax said:
If folks haven’t yet, they really need to listen to the pod cast mickeyrat posted regarding troll farms.benjs said:
Also bear in mind the misinformation campaigns we should come to expect at this point. I would bet money that at least some of the top ranked responses to that tweet are paid trolls, though unfortunately, none of us will ever know.OnWis97 said:
It's not the golfer...mrussel1 said:
Don't apply one statement from one retired golfer, to 40% of the country... I'm a Democrat and not a snowflake. Are you either of those?OnWis97 said:I don't know who the non-golfer Tom Watson is either. And maybe he has a special brand of snowflake followers, but it's disheartening to see a bunch of people come on and call Buttigieg a sexist for critiquing a slogan. I take back everything I've said about the double-standards; the left really are the snowflakes.
He has 36,000 followers...a lot but not tons. Calls himself a journalist. Calls himself a liberal and clearly believes Hillary getting the nomination was a great moment in history to the point that bringing up the terrible results is wrong. The question is, are the replies that agree with him symptomatic of the left; or at least the most steadfast Hillary-supporting left? I guess I don't know but I did not like seeing that. There were a lot of people there that I assume don't like Trump that basically said "I won't vote for him" for something that I think would be a stretch to even call a minor gaffe. Sometimes it seems like we take the "high road" by tearing our own down just so we don't look like the GOP letting Trump get away with everything. Again, the people who happened to respond? Certainly not a cross-section. I still feel it's concerning. I never really thought Buttigieg was going to win the nomination anyway. But he's persona non grata with some pro-Hillary folks. Gillibrand is with much of the left for what she did to Franken. Warren is with the middle for her ethnicity kerfuffle. Meanwhile Trump just keeps on being worse than all of 'em combined and nobody cares.
Here was their lead yesterday.. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/beto-orourke-white-men-2020_n_5c90fe72e4b0d50545005fca
This was the lead from the other day https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-middle-class_n_5c8032d8e4b06ff26ba55799
What gives me hope is the comments section. Whereas on Breitbart, as I"m sure you know, they compete to see who can say the craziest, racist thing, on HuffPo, a strong majority of the comments are highly critical of HuffPo and their design to divide Democrats and push their preferred candidates, usually Warren although there's a strong Bernie bent too. They also time the articles to connect with key events. For example the Biden hit job came the same day that some people close to Biden said they were sure he was going to run. It's a total rag since Ariana sold it. Plus the writing is amateurish. It was good back in the day.
They sound a lot like Young Turks. I wouldn't call it dividing Democrats, but more standing up for true progressives.
TYT believes the national networks, such as MSCNN , NYT and WaPo, favor corporate/establishment democrats, are very influenced by right wing media and are all very critical of true progressives.
But the street runs both ways, lots of moderate Democrats are going after the more progressive wing. I'm sure our energy is better spent going after Trump, his administration and the GOP.0 -
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Is there really a stigma to this day? If so, I don't know what it is.PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:
so gross. I'm all for ending the stigma, but sorry, that's gross.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Is it helping you getting over the stigma?mrussel1 said:
It does favor Bernie. And I can't unsee that girl's blood smeared on her face. Thank you.Hi! said:Just my impression, but I feel Huffpost favors Bernie big time.
I really enjoyed Huffpost, but after this article came up a couple weeks ago on their front page, I’ve been wondering.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c7ecae7e4b06ff26ba30daaAgreed. Super gross. There's gotta by a better way to disrupt the stigma than that FFS. I mean, if anything, she's hurting her own cause.Yes there is. Here where we are still, in various subtle and not subtle ways ... and of course really heinously in certain other countries, where some women are still forced to leave their home and live in a shed or hut or whatever for the course of their periods.But think about it... Women are still often judged in our society with the "she must be on the rag" thing, right? Surely everyone is at least aware of that part? And there are a LOT of men who would still absolutely refuse to buy tampons for a woman. Also, what you may not be so aware of for obvious reasons, is that a surprising number of men, yes in North America and Western Europe too, literally view the vagina as "filthy" because of periods. They think of them as dirty in both the literal and figurative senses. While they still expect blow jobs, they refuse to perform oral sex themselves for example, because they're "gross", mainly because of periods. Stuff like that.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Ask the women of Nepal. Or young girls who don’t have access to sanitary products in school or women in the workplace. Or congress who fought against lifting the sales or use tax on female sanitary products. Plenty of stigma still around.mrussel1 said:
Is there really a stigma to this day? If so, I don't know what it is.PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:
so gross. I'm all for ending the stigma, but sorry, that's gross.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Is it helping you getting over the stigma?mrussel1 said:
It does favor Bernie. And I can't unsee that girl's blood smeared on her face. Thank you.Hi! said:Just my impression, but I feel Huffpost favors Bernie big time.
I really enjoyed Huffpost, but after this article came up a couple weeks ago on their front page, I’ve been wondering.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c7ecae7e4b06ff26ba30daaAgreed. Super gross. There's gotta by a better way to disrupt the stigma than that FFS. I mean, if anything, she's hurting her own cause.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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