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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,600
    Meltdown99 said:
    Poll: Half of Americans say Trump is victim of a 'witch hunt' as trust in Mueller erodes

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/18/trust-mueller-investigation-falls-half-americans-say-trump-victim-witch-hunt/3194049002/?fbclid=IwAR0eaS7id7wxjYU_xQKofn2wzN-eQ3Ucq1tKqhj7ehe5Y2rz572qWCOaxmM


    Other polls show different..
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,600
    Idiot in chief is completely out of control , he’s totally void of any empathy and it’s disgusting !
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    josevolution said:
    Idiot in chief is completely out of control , he’s totally void of any empathy and it’s disgusting !
    that's putting it mildly.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,416
    josevolution said:
    Idiot in chief is completely out of control , he’s totally void of any empathy and it’s disgusting !
    As are his advisers,  believers, supporters,  and  voters 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,177
    Nothing to do with Team Trump Treason, nothing.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited March 2019
    Meltdown99 said:
    Poll: Half of Americans say Trump is victim of a 'witch hunt' as trust in Mueller erodes

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/18/trust-mueller-investigation-falls-half-americans-say-trump-victim-witch-hunt/3194049002/?fbclid=IwAR0eaS7id7wxjYU_xQKofn2wzN-eQ3Ucq1tKqhj7ehe5Y2rz572qWCOaxmM


    And this is why I have very little faith in many American voters now ..... It seems way too many of them have been easily duped, and will continue to be easily duped.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    josevolution said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Poll: Half of Americans say Trump is victim of a 'witch hunt' as trust in Mueller erodes

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/18/trust-mueller-investigation-falls-half-americans-say-trump-victim-witch-hunt/3194049002/?fbclid=IwAR0eaS7id7wxjYU_xQKofn2wzN-eQ3Ucq1tKqhj7ehe5Y2rz572qWCOaxmM


    Other polls show different..
    It's doesn't really matter - we know that a LOT of people really do think that way because they are extremely susceptible to right wing propaganda.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Meltdown99 said:
    Poll: Half of Americans say Trump is victim of a 'witch hunt' as trust in Mueller erodes

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/18/trust-mueller-investigation-falls-half-americans-say-trump-victim-witch-hunt/3194049002/?fbclid=IwAR0eaS7id7wxjYU_xQKofn2wzN-eQ3Ucq1tKqhj7ehe5Y2rz572qWCOaxmM


    When laws are broken it's not supposed to matter what polls say or how people "feel".

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  • Meltdown99
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Poll: Half of Americans say Trump is victim of a 'witch hunt' as trust in Mueller erodes

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/18/trust-mueller-investigation-falls-half-americans-say-trump-victim-witch-hunt/3194049002/?fbclid=IwAR0eaS7id7wxjYU_xQKofn2wzN-eQ3Ucq1tKqhj7ehe5Y2rz572qWCOaxmM


    And this is why I have very little faith in many American voters now ..... It seems way too many of them have been easily duped, and will continue to be easily duped.
    Most of the polls leading to election night had Clinton winning.  So who knows which poll to believe.  Of course, people will lose faith in Mueller, he is a lawyer ... 99% of the population have no faith in lawyers, and the longer this goes, the more people will suspect that Mueller is doing what most lawyers do, milk their clients...but that's the US problem...I never looked to America for any kind of leadership, or did I ever think that America had a moral compass...because they do not...they have not for so long.  We are talking about a country that has caused so much mass destruction in the Middle East over the last 30 years.  I will look at a country like New Zealand for world leadership and a moral compass.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited March 2019
    I don't give a shit about polls. Our own local and provincial election polls taught me that lesson a long time ago. They are often wildly inaccurate, and by a lot more than they were with Clinton/Trump.
    Who in the hell is looking to America as a moral compass? I don't think anyone outside of America does that. People simply acknowledge the massive role America has in the global community and economy and keep hoping it will do more okay things than terrible things.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Poll: Half of Americans say Trump is victim of a 'witch hunt' as trust in Mueller erodes

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/18/trust-mueller-investigation-falls-half-americans-say-trump-victim-witch-hunt/3194049002/?fbclid=IwAR0eaS7id7wxjYU_xQKofn2wzN-eQ3Ucq1tKqhj7ehe5Y2rz572qWCOaxmM


    And this is why I have very little faith in many American voters now ..... It seems way too many of them have been easily duped, and will continue to be easily duped.
    Or after 2 years of investigating they could maybe prove collusion and that Trump is a Russian stooge...

    But i guess it's just easier to talk shit on Americans 

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    my2hands said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Poll: Half of Americans say Trump is victim of a 'witch hunt' as trust in Mueller erodes

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/18/trust-mueller-investigation-falls-half-americans-say-trump-victim-witch-hunt/3194049002/?fbclid=IwAR0eaS7id7wxjYU_xQKofn2wzN-eQ3Ucq1tKqhj7ehe5Y2rz572qWCOaxmM


    And this is why I have very little faith in many American voters now ..... It seems way too many of them have been easily duped, and will continue to be easily duped.
    Or after 2 years of investigating they could maybe prove collusion and that Trump is a Russian stooge...

    But i guess it's just easier to talk shit on Americans 

    She said "many". The founders didn't trust the voters either. 
  • Ledbetterman10
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    my2hands said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Poll: Half of Americans say Trump is victim of a 'witch hunt' as trust in Mueller erodes

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/18/trust-mueller-investigation-falls-half-americans-say-trump-victim-witch-hunt/3194049002/?fbclid=IwAR0eaS7id7wxjYU_xQKofn2wzN-eQ3Ucq1tKqhj7ehe5Y2rz572qWCOaxmM


    And this is why I have very little faith in many American voters now ..... It seems way too many of them have been easily duped, and will continue to be easily duped.
    Or after 2 years of investigating they could maybe prove collusion and that Trump is a Russian stooge...
    I think that's what a lot of people are thinking: if it's taking this long, there might not be anything. I've suggested this myself. My father notes that Watergate took longer, and god knows Halfiax is all about Mueller connecting dots and taking his sweet time to do it. But in this world of 24-hour news, social media, and the fact that we're all walking around with mini super computers in our pockets, people want things NOW or else they'll just move onto the next thing. 

    A question I have, and I guess I'll pose it to @Halifax2TheMax because he's up on all things Mueller: what is the end game now that the Pelosi has finally acknowledged that impeachment isn't worth trying since they won't get a conviction in the Senate? Specifically, the end game as it pertains to Trump, because I don't care what happens to all of his cronies (Stone, Manafort, Cohen, etc). I want to see something happen to Trump. Is there a hope that he loses in 2020 and then, as a citizen, he can be indicted? Is that the only card Mueller has to play? I mean, I guess there's the possibility of Trump being re-elected, but the Senate flipping enough to get an impeachment conviction. But that seems like a pipe-dream.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    Not that you asked me, but I will be shocked if Trump is NOT indicted after he leaves office.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Not that you asked me, but I will be shocked if Trump is NOT indicted after he leaves office.
    Well I'm asking anybody but I know Halifax is very into the Mueller probe. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Not that you asked me, but I will be shocked if Trump is NOT indicted after he leaves office.
    Well I'm asking anybody but I know Halifax is very into the Mueller probe. 
    Sure.
    It is absolute fact that Trump has broken laws, so if he's not indicted afterwards as a private citizen, by any number of agencies, that would be a severe injustice that would be hard for the agencies to justify IMO.
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  • josevolution
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    my2hands said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Poll: Half of Americans say Trump is victim of a 'witch hunt' as trust in Mueller erodes

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/18/trust-mueller-investigation-falls-half-americans-say-trump-victim-witch-hunt/3194049002/?fbclid=IwAR0eaS7id7wxjYU_xQKofn2wzN-eQ3Ucq1tKqhj7ehe5Y2rz572qWCOaxmM


    And this is why I have very little faith in many American voters now ..... It seems way too many of them have been easily duped, and will continue to be easily duped.
    Or after 2 years of investigating they could maybe prove collusion and that Trump is a Russian stooge...
    I think that's what a lot of people are thinking: if it's taking this long, there might not be anything. I've suggested this myself. My father notes that Watergate took longer, and god knows Halfiax is all about Mueller connecting dots and taking his sweet time to do it. But in this world of 24-hour news, social media, and the fact that we're all walking around with mini super computers in our pockets, people want things NOW or else they'll just move onto the next thing. 

    A question I have, and I guess I'll pose it to @Halifax2TheMax because he's up on all things Mueller: what is the end game now that the Pelosi has finally acknowledged that impeachment isn't worth trying since they won't get a conviction in the Senate? Specifically, the end game as it pertains to Trump, because I don't care what happens to all of his cronies (Stone, Manafort, Cohen, etc). I want to see something happen to Trump. Is there a hope that he loses in 2020 and then, as a citizen, he can be indicted? Is that the only card Mueller has to play? I mean, I guess there's the possibility of Trump being re-elected, but the Senate flipping enough to get an impeachment conviction. But that seems like a pipe-dream.
    Pelosi also said wait for Muller 
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Not that you asked me, but I will be shocked if Trump is NOT indicted after he leaves office.
    Well I'm asking anybody but I know Halifax is very into the Mueller probe. 
    Sure.
    It is absolute fact that Trump has broken laws, so if he's not indicted afterwards as a private citizen, by any number of agencies, that would be a severe injustice that would be hard for the agencies to justify IMO.
    If this is absolute fact, why hasn't Mueller released his statement? I get that there's an absurdly huge mountain of circumstantial evidence, but has there been anything that leads you to say that this is truly absolute?
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    benjs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Not that you asked me, but I will be shocked if Trump is NOT indicted after he leaves office.
    Well I'm asking anybody but I know Halifax is very into the Mueller probe. 
    Sure.
    It is absolute fact that Trump has broken laws, so if he's not indicted afterwards as a private citizen, by any number of agencies, that would be a severe injustice that would be hard for the agencies to justify IMO.
    If this is absolute fact, why hasn't Mueller released his statement? I get that there's an absurdly huge mountain of circumstantial evidence, but has there been anything that leads you to say that this is truly absolute?
    The first and easy one is Cohen is going to jail for the Stormy payments and other models under the direction of Trump.
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