Ethiopian Airlines flight crashes, all 157 on board killed, including 18 Canadians

brianlux said:

Smellyman said:

Just to add I have become a anxiety ridden flyer as I get older, but the Airbus A350 is the go to if I can.  Super quiet, super smooth like you're not even moving.  I will fly that option every time if I could.

My wife will be taking an Airbus to Alaska this weekend on Alaska Air lines which has one of the best safety records of all airlines.  Those factors will save several of my finger nails while she is flying.

oftenreading said:

Smellyman said:

Just to add I have become a anxiety ridden flyer as I get older, but the Airbus A350 is the go to if I can.  Super quiet, super smooth like you're not even moving.  I will fly that option every time if I could.

So do you actually book trips based on which plane is doing the route, and if so, how do you find that out at the time? I have to say, I book on convenience and cost. 

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Smellyman said:

Just to add I have become a anxiety ridden flyer as I get older, but the Airbus A350 is the go to if I can.  Super quiet, super smooth like you're not even moving.  I will fly that option every time if I could.

My wife will be taking an Airbus to Alaska this weekend on Alaska Air lines which has one of the best safety records of all airlines.  Those factors will save several of my finger nails while she is flying.

I like Alaska Air a lot. In my experience, they are actually the best airline to fly with to the US overall, in terms of procedure, service, efficiency, etc.

Nice!

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

Smellyman said:

Just to add I have become a anxiety ridden flyer as I get older, but the Airbus A350 is the go to if I can.  Super quiet, super smooth like you're not even moving.  I will fly that option every time if I could.

My wife will be taking an Airbus to Alaska this weekend on Alaska Air lines which has one of the best safety records of all airlines.  Those factors will save several of my finger nails while she is flying.

Just up her life insurance and enjoy the ride!  Win-Win.

brianlux said:

benjs said:

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Smellyman said:

Just to add I have become a anxiety ridden flyer as I get older, but the Airbus A350 is the go to if I can.  Super quiet, super smooth like you're not even moving.  I will fly that option every time if I could.

My wife will be taking an Airbus to Alaska this weekend on Alaska Air lines which has one of the best safety records of all airlines.  Those factors will save several of my finger nails while she is flying.

I like Alaska Air a lot. In my experience, they are actually the best airline to fly with to the US overall, in terms of procedure, service, efficiency, etc.

Nice!

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

Smellyman said:

Just to add I have become a anxiety ridden flyer as I get older, but the Airbus A350 is the go to if I can.  Super quiet, super smooth like you're not even moving.  I will fly that option every time if I could.

My wife will be taking an Airbus to Alaska this weekend on Alaska Air lines which has one of the best safety records of all airlines.  Those factors will save several of my finger nails while she is flying.

Just up her life insurance and enjoy the ride!  Win-Win.

Man, you're a good sport  

I'm remaining calm and maintaining composure but if I ever meet Cincy I might have to...

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

benjs said:

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Smellyman said:

Just to add I have become a anxiety ridden flyer as I get older, but the Airbus A350 is the go to if I can.  Super quiet, super smooth like you're not even moving.  I will fly that option every time if I could.

My wife will be taking an Airbus to Alaska this weekend on Alaska Air lines which has one of the best safety records of all airlines.  Those factors will save several of my finger nails while she is flying.

I like Alaska Air a lot. In my experience, they are actually the best airline to fly with to the US overall, in terms of procedure, service, efficiency, etc.

Nice!

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

Smellyman said:

Just to add I have become a anxiety ridden flyer as I get older, but the Airbus A350 is the go to if I can.  Super quiet, super smooth like you're not even moving.  I will fly that option every time if I could.

My wife will be taking an Airbus to Alaska this weekend on Alaska Air lines which has one of the best safety records of all airlines.  Those factors will save several of my finger nails while she is flying.

Just up her life insurance and enjoy the ride!  Win-Win.

Man, you're a good sport  

I'm remaining calm and maintaining composure but if I ever meet Cincy I might have to...

Is that seriously the first joke about life insurance you've ever heard?  I'm starting to think my friends are assholes.

Meltdown99 said:

Wait until someone hacks in and takes one of these planes down...

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

Wait until someone hacks in and takes one of these planes down...

Never thought of that but I suppose it could be done. 

They claim newer cars can be hacked, so I suppose planes can be hacked as well.

That's why I have no interest in self-driving cars...things like cars, planes, trains and what not should remain offline.  These corporations that push this technology will tell us we have nothing to worry about, of course, they will tell us this 2 days after a massive data breach...

benjs said:

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

Wait until someone hacks in and takes one of these planes down...

Never thought of that but I suppose it could be done. 

They claim newer cars can be hacked, so I suppose planes can be hacked as well.

That's why I have no interest in self-driving cars...things like cars, planes, trains and what not should remain offline.  These corporations that push this technology will tell us we have nothing to worry about, of course, they will tell us this 2 days after a massive data breach...

A lot of this will have to do with data architecture.

For example, the way that Apple permits authentication to devices that law enforcement (or even Apple themselves) can't get into is by having a secure enclave which can only return a binary "correct" or "incorrect" based on a fingerprint scan or facial scan, which sends that signal to the phone, which is always looking for a "correct" prior to permitting entrance to the operating system. Because that enclave is not internet connected even, hacking is effectively not an option. This is why Apple users have to authenticate their fingerprints/faces on each device, which is an incredibly clever design. 

Something like this could mitigate the risk of hacking, but I suspect it'll be really challenging to make it hacker-proof for self-driving cars because the car would need to receive instructions from the internet. That would keep it pretty susceptible.

benjs said:

brianlux said:

benjs said:

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

Wait until someone hacks in and takes one of these planes down...

Never thought of that but I suppose it could be done. 

They claim newer cars can be hacked, so I suppose planes can be hacked as well.

That's why I have no interest in self-driving cars...things like cars, planes, trains and what not should remain offline.  These corporations that push this technology will tell us we have nothing to worry about, of course, they will tell us this 2 days after a massive data breach...

A lot of this will have to do with data architecture.

For example, the way that Apple permits authentication to devices that law enforcement (or even Apple themselves) can't get into is by having a secure enclave which can only return a binary "correct" or "incorrect" based on a fingerprint scan or facial scan, which sends that signal to the phone, which is always looking for a "correct" prior to permitting entrance to the operating system. Because that enclave is not internet connected even, hacking is effectively not an option. This is why Apple users have to authenticate their fingerprints/faces on each device, which is an incredibly clever design. 

Something like this could mitigate the risk of hacking, but I suspect it'll be really challenging to make it hacker-proof for self-driving cars because the car would need to receive instructions from the internet. That would keep it pretty susceptible.

I love it that there are people like you who can understand this stuff, Ben!

I've always been a nerd - it's in my blood