What classic album poll should Mendoz create next?

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,887
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    DewieCox said:
    I know it’s just a silly term but I think people are misunderstanding what dad rock is. It started as a way to slag bands that still put out new music but it’s the sanitized, safe late career stuff. “Dad rock” is made by dads not consumed by them.


    Pear Jam became dad rock when they put out Backspacer and after,  Wilco joined in when they put out Sky Blue Sky and beyond, for example.

    I figured PJ became dad rock when all the male fans (the vast majority of the fans) became dads/old enough to be dads. I think Gen Z would consider Vs. dad rock just as much as they would Backspacer... then it would just be good dad rock vs shitty dad rock. ;)
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Did Wilco ever make another decent album after A Ghost Is Born? I remember buying Sky Blue Sky with a great deal of excitement because I loved both Wilco and Nels Cline at the time. What a colossal letdown that was. I did download their free album, which was good for the price. And Jeff Tweedy's book is pretty good (so far).
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,887
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    dankind said:
    Did Wilco ever make another decent album after A Ghost Is Born? I remember buying Sky Blue Sky with a great deal of excitement because I loved both Wilco and Nels Cline at the time. What a colossal letdown that was. I did download their free album, which was good for the price. And Jeff Tweedy's book is pretty good (so far).
    I thought Star Wars was pretty good.
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Sky Blue Sky, The Album, Whole Love and Star Wars are all great imo. Not quite as good as Yankee or Summerteeth, but none of their other albums are either.
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
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    My 6 year old says I rock. So I'm a Dad that rocks and a Dad who listens to rock. But 'Dad Rock'? Is this like 'Dad Bod'? Can we just leave Dad's the fuck alone?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,887
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    Lighten up guys. I'm just joking around.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    PJ_Soul said:
    Lighten up guys. I'm just joking around.
    Well, the joke's on you, then. Because you know who has the best jokes?

    That's right, dads! 

    Dad jokes FTW!!!
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,887
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    dankind said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Lighten up guys. I'm just joking around.
    Well, the joke's on you, then. Because you know who has the best jokes?

    That's right, dads! 

    Dad jokes FTW!!!

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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited March 2019

    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Lighten up guys. I'm just joking around.
    That was meant to the world, not you directly. Dad’s have sensitive skin too. #oldspice
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  • bflynn1
    bflynn1 Posts: 1,394
    PJ_Soul said:
    DewieCox said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    How about something newer and/or less "dad rock" type bands? Like Modest Mouse, or R.E.M, or Radiohead, or QOTSA, or Portugal. The Man, or Gary Clarke Jr., or All Them Witches, or Dr. Dog, or Courtney Barnett, or The White Stripes or Jack White, or....
    Ha...most of those are dad rock, aren’t they? What are All Them Witches about? Not heard that name much.
    I've seen them called a "neo-psychedelic rock quartet", which describes them as well as anything I guess, except for the quartet part now. Just recently they ditched their keyboardist permanently, and are now a trio - it did not hurt their sound at all. But all I really know is that they're really good, and one of the true current younger rock bands that prove rock isn't dead at all. I saw them live a little while ago - they were great. I suppose not for everyone because of that "psychedelic" factor... anyway, they are super skilled - some of their riffs and extended jams are insane.

    Here's their 2017 Live on KEXP session, for a taste (so with the since-dumped keyboardist).






    They do a great cover of Voodoo Chile but I've pretty much loved all their stuff so far. I'd like to be able to see them live at some point.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
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    Yeah, I roll my eyes every time I hear the term “dad hat.” I’m like, oh you mean the way you’re SUPPOSED TO FUCKIN WEAR A HAT?!?!!
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,760
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    Odd, this notion of "classic rock" or "dad rock".  I may use those terms as a reference because that's the language, but I don't hear it that way.  Roots rock I get- Elvis, Fats Domino, Little Richard, Chuck Berry.  Other than that, to me it's just the jagged continuum called rock- an evolving music that has slow changes, sudden upheavals and stagnant periods with greatness percolating under the surface.

    I dig
    Rock and roll music. 
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,016
    brianlux said:
    Odd, this notion of "classic rock" or "dad rock".  I may use those terms as a reference because that's the language, but I don't hear it that way.  Roots rock I get- Elvis, Fats Domino, Little Richard, Chuck Berry.  Other than that, to me it's just the jagged continuum called rock- an evolving music that has slow changes, sudden upheavals and stagnant periods with greatness percolating under the surface.

    I dig
    Rock and roll music. 
    Yeah I agree, labels are mostly stupid. In the 80's we suddenly had "hair bands", cause nobody in the 70's had long hair.
    Labels such as rock, pop, soul, funk etc. are fine, but subdividing rock into 69 subcategories based on what a band wears or where they fix their gaze while on stage is just too much.
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Poncier said:
    brianlux said:
    Odd, this notion of "classic rock" or "dad rock".  I may use those terms as a reference because that's the language, but I don't hear it that way.  Roots rock I get- Elvis, Fats Domino, Little Richard, Chuck Berry.  Other than that, to me it's just the jagged continuum called rock- an evolving music that has slow changes, sudden upheavals and stagnant periods with greatness percolating under the surface.

    I dig
    Rock and roll music. 
    Yeah I agree, labels are mostly stupid. In the 80's we suddenly had "hair bands", cause nobody in the 70's had long hair.
    Labels such as rock, pop, soul, funk etc. are fine, but subdividing rock into 69 subcategories based on what a band wears or where they fix their gaze while on stage is just too much.

    To show how useless they are, I’ve never seen “roots rock” used to describe those acts.


    I like “hair bands” as a label though, because it describes bands that care more about their hair than making good music. 
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,016
    Except some of those bands made good music.(Some did suck to be sure, but every era has its bands that suck) And some people started to lump in bands like Van Halen, Scorpions, Def Leppard and others who'd been around for a while as hair bands.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,887
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    HesCalledDyer said:
    Yeah, I roll my eyes every time I hear the term “dad hat.” I’m like, oh you mean the way you’re SUPPOSED TO FUCKIN WEAR A HAT?!?!!
    I definitely prefer dad hats!
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
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    PJ_Soul said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Yeah, I roll my eyes every time I hear the term “dad hat.” I’m like, oh you mean the way you’re SUPPOSED TO FUCKIN WEAR A HAT?!?!!
    I definitely prefer dad hats!
    The style, yes. The term, fuck no!  All that flat bill, high crown, leave the stickers on nonsense should be called "kid hats" or better yet "little fuckin douchebag hats."  What's next, not cutting the tags of your shirt and calling the normal way to wear it a "dad shirt?"  :lol:
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,887
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    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Yeah, I roll my eyes every time I hear the term “dad hat.” I’m like, oh you mean the way you’re SUPPOSED TO FUCKIN WEAR A HAT?!?!!
    I definitely prefer dad hats!
    The style, yes. The term, fuck no!  All that flat bill, high crown, leave the stickers on nonsense should be called "kid hats" or better yet "little fuckin douchebag hats."  What's next, not cutting the tags of your shirt and calling the normal way to wear it a "dad shirt?"  :lol:
    I call them mook hats, lol.
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