I know it’s just a silly term but I think people are misunderstanding what dad rock is. It started as a way to slag bands that still put out new music but it’s the sanitized, safe late career stuff. “Dad rock” is made by dads not consumed by them.
Pear Jam became dad rock when they put out Backspacer and after, Wilco joined in when they put out Sky Blue Sky and beyond, for example.
I figured PJ became dad rock when all the male fans (the vast majority of the fans) became dads/old enough to be dads. I think Gen Z would consider Vs. dad rock just as much as they would Backspacer... then it would just be good dad rock vs shitty dad rock.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Did Wilco ever make another decent album after A Ghost Is Born? I remember buying Sky Blue Sky with a great deal of excitement because I loved both Wilco and Nels Cline at the time. What a colossal letdown that was. I did download their free album, which was good for the price. And Jeff Tweedy's book is pretty good (so far).
Did Wilco ever make another decent album after A Ghost Is Born? I remember buying Sky Blue Sky with a great deal of excitement because I loved both Wilco and Nels Cline at the time. What a colossal letdown that was. I did download their free album, which was good for the price. And Jeff Tweedy's book is pretty good (so far).
I thought Star Wars was pretty good.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Sky Blue Sky, The Album, Whole Love and Star Wars are all great imo. Not quite as good as Yankee or Summerteeth, but none of their other albums are either.
My 6 year old says I rock. So I'm a Dad that rocks and a Dad who listens to rock. But 'Dad Rock'? Is this like 'Dad Bod'? Can we just leave Dad's the fuck alone?
How about something newer and/or less "dad rock" type bands? Like Modest Mouse, or R.E.M, or Radiohead, or QOTSA, or Portugal. The Man, or Gary Clarke Jr., or All Them Witches, or Dr. Dog, or Courtney Barnett, or The White Stripes or Jack White, or....
Ha...most of those are dad rock, aren’t they? What are All Them Witches about? Not heard that name much.
I've seen them called a "neo-psychedelic rock quartet", which describes them as well as anything I guess, except for the quartet part now. Just recently they ditched their keyboardist permanently, and are now a trio - it did not hurt their sound at all. But all I really know is that they're really good, and one of the true current younger rock bands that prove rock isn't dead at all. I saw them live a little while ago - they were great. I suppose not for everyone because of that "psychedelic" factor... anyway, they are super skilled - some of their riffs and extended jams are insane.
Here's their 2017 Live on KEXP session, for a taste (so with the since-dumped keyboardist).
Odd, this notion of "classic rock" or "dad rock". I may use those terms as a reference because that's the language, but I don't hear it that way. Roots rock I get- Elvis, Fats Domino, Little Richard, Chuck Berry. Other than that, to me it's just the jagged continuum called rock- an evolving music that has slow changes, sudden upheavals and stagnant periods with greatness percolating under the surface.
I dig
Rock and roll music.
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Odd, this notion of "classic rock" or "dad rock". I may use those terms as a reference because that's the language, but I don't hear it that way. Roots rock I get- Elvis, Fats Domino, Little Richard, Chuck Berry. Other than that, to me it's just the jagged continuum called rock- an evolving music that has slow changes, sudden upheavals and stagnant periods with greatness percolating under the surface.
I dig
Rock and roll music.
Yeah I agree, labels are mostly stupid. In the 80's we suddenly had "hair bands", cause nobody in the 70's had long hair. Labels such as rock, pop, soul, funk etc. are fine, but subdividing rock into 69 subcategories based on what a band wears or where they fix their gaze while on stage is just too much.
Odd, this notion of "classic rock" or "dad rock". I may use those terms as a reference because that's the language, but I don't hear it that way. Roots rock I get- Elvis, Fats Domino, Little Richard, Chuck Berry. Other than that, to me it's just the jagged continuum called rock- an evolving music that has slow changes, sudden upheavals and stagnant periods with greatness percolating under the surface.
I dig
Rock and roll music.
Yeah I agree, labels are mostly stupid. In the 80's we suddenly had "hair bands", cause nobody in the 70's had long hair. Labels such as rock, pop, soul, funk etc. are fine, but subdividing rock into 69 subcategories based on what a band wears or where they fix their gaze while on stage is just too much.
To show how useless they are, I’ve never seen “roots rock” used to describe those acts.
I like “hair bands” as a label though, because it describes bands that care more about their hair than making good music.
Except some of those bands made good music.(Some did suck to be sure, but every era has its bands that suck) And some people started to lump in bands like Van Halen, Scorpions, Def Leppard and others who'd been around for a while as hair bands.
Yeah, I roll my eyes every time I hear the term “dad hat.” I’m like, oh you mean the way you’re SUPPOSED TO FUCKIN WEAR A HAT?!?!!
I definitely prefer dad hats!
The style, yes. The term, fuck no! All that flat bill, high crown, leave the stickers on nonsense should be called "kid hats" or better yet "little fuckin douchebag hats." What's next, not cutting the tags of your shirt and calling the normal way to wear it a "dad shirt?"
Yeah, I roll my eyes every time I hear the term “dad hat.” I’m like, oh you mean the way you’re SUPPOSED TO FUCKIN WEAR A HAT?!?!!
I definitely prefer dad hats!
The style, yes. The term, fuck no! All that flat bill, high crown, leave the stickers on nonsense should be called "kid hats" or better yet "little fuckin douchebag hats." What's next, not cutting the tags of your shirt and calling the normal way to wear it a "dad shirt?"
I call them mook hats, lol.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Yeah, I roll my eyes every time I hear the term “dad hat.” I’m like, oh you mean the way you’re SUPPOSED TO FUCKIN WEAR A HAT?!?!!
I definitely prefer dad hats!
The style, yes. The term, fuck no! All that flat bill, high crown, leave the stickers on nonsense should be called "kid hats" or better yet "little fuckin douchebag hats." What's next, not cutting the tags of your shirt and calling the normal way to wear it a "dad shirt?"
Yeah, I roll my eyes every time I hear the term “dad hat.” I’m like, oh you mean the way you’re SUPPOSED TO FUCKIN WEAR A HAT?!?!!
I definitely prefer dad hats!
The style, yes. The term, fuck no! All that flat bill, high crown, leave the stickers on nonsense should be called "kid hats" or better yet "little fuckin douchebag hats." What's next, not cutting the tags of your shirt and calling the normal way to wear it a "dad shirt?"
I call them mook hats, lol.
I rock my "mook' hat yo!
I meant the tall flat brimmed sticker hats are mook hats, not the dad hats, lol. Do you wear mook hats?? I thought you were too old for those!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Great idea Gambs! I do believe our esteemed pollster, Mr. Medoz, previously mentioned having already selected the albums he intends to poll, but I like you suggestions. Who's Next is my choice, not only because it is a killer album, but because it would be a close race to the finish. Every song is a winner and the least among them reaches a level few bands can boast having had on any album.
and Quadrophenia is even better!
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Great idea Gambs! I do believe our esteemed pollster, Mr. Medoz, previously mentioned having already selected the albums he intends to poll, but I like you suggestions. Who's Next is my choice, not only because it is a killer album, but because it would be a close race to the finish. Every song is a winner and the least among them reaches a level few bands can boast having had on any album.
and Quadrophenia is even better!
Concept album, though. I think of those as one long song. I guess it would be like voting for my favorite part of that song.
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
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That's right, dads!
Dad jokes FTW!!!
Labels such as rock, pop, soul, funk etc. are fine, but subdividing rock into 69 subcategories based on what a band wears or where they fix their gaze while on stage is just too much.
To show how useless they are, I’ve never seen “roots rock” used to describe those acts.
I like “hair bands” as a label though, because it describes bands that care more about their hair than making good music.
and Quadrophenia is even better!
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13