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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    cincybearcat said:
    Yeah there is no way the shutdown is on anyone but Trump.
    100%
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mcgruff10 said:
    Pelosi is a great politician but I despise her because of her stance on the 2nd Amendment.  
    You complain that the two sides can't compromise and then say you despise someone who you disagree with on one policy issue.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Pelosi is a great politician but I despise her because of her stance on the 2nd Amendment.  
    You complain that the two sides can't compromise and then say you despise someone who you disagree with on one policy issue.
    That would be correct.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Pelosi is a great politician but I despise her because of her stance on the 2nd Amendment.  
    You complain that the two sides can't compromise and then say you despise someone who you disagree with on one policy issue.
    That would be correct.  
    And you wonder why america is polarized. Take a glance in the mirror.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Pelosi is a great politician but I despise her because of her stance on the 2nd Amendment.  
    You complain that the two sides can't compromise and then say you despise someone who you disagree with on one policy issue.
    That would be correct.  
    And you wonder why america is polarized. Take a glance in the mirror.
    Last time I checked you can dislike politicians based on their viewpoints on things that are important to you. Yeah Pelosi is very very anti second amendment, I despise her because of that.  She said something in the mid 90s I believe along the lines of “if I would have had the votes I would have banned every single one of them.”  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Pelosi is a great politician but I despise her because of her stance on the 2nd Amendment.  
    You complain that the two sides can't compromise and then say you despise someone who you disagree with on one policy issue.
    That would be correct.  
    And you wonder why america is polarized. Take a glance in the mirror.
    Last time I checked you can dislike politicians based on their viewpoints on things that are important to you. Yeah Pelosi is very very anti second amendment, I despise her because of that.  She said something in the mid 90s I believe along the lines of “if I would have had the votes I would have banned every single one of them.”  
    You must hate HW Bush too then. 
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Pelosi is a great politician but I despise her because of her stance on the 2nd Amendment.  
    You complain that the two sides can't compromise and then say you despise someone who you disagree with on one policy issue.
    That would be correct.  
    And you wonder why america is polarized. Take a glance in the mirror.
    Last time I checked you can dislike politicians based on their viewpoints on things that are important to you. Yeah Pelosi is very very anti second amendment, I despise her because of that.  She said something in the mid 90s I believe along the lines of “if I would have had the votes I would have banned every single one of them.”  
    Despise is a very strong word. I guess I'm more careful where I use that description. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    The Juggler said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Pelosi is a great politician but I despise her because of her stance on the 2nd Amendment.  
    You complain that the two sides can't compromise and then say you despise someone who you disagree with on one policy issue.
    That would be correct.  
    And you wonder why america is polarized. Take a glance in the mirror.
    Last time I checked you can dislike politicians based on their viewpoints on things that are important to you. Yeah Pelosi is very very anti second amendment, I despise her because of that.  She said something in the mid 90s I believe along the lines of “if I would have had the votes I would have banned every single one of them.”  
    You must hate HW Bush too then. 
    Because?

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    So for those interested in public opinion affecting how Republicans on the hill view the Mueller investigation and possible impeachment/resignation, the shutdown seems to have jump started things. 538 is already at 39.3, his lowest in mark in a year and second lowest all time at this point into his term, and the conservative base seem to be jumping ship over this enormous cave today. Keep in mind, the news will only be getting worse with a congress committed to transparent oversight just getting started. #2019:

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/25/government-shutdown-over-border-wall-1127564


    GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN

    Conservatives to Trump: You caved!

    Conservatives had a quick message for President Donald Trump after he announced a deal to end the government shutdown without funds for his border wall: You caved!

    "Good news for George Herbert Walker Bush: As of today, he is no longer the biggest wimp ever to serve as President of the United States," tweeted conservative commentator Ann Coulter.

    "Nancy Pelosi is alpha," tweetedconservative film maker Mike Cernovich.

    And right wing commentator Michael Malice opined: "Apparently a wall isn't as good as a cave."

    Conservative outlets, from the Drudge Report to Breitbart News, also blasted headlines in dramatic font declaring Trump caved with "NO WALL."

    The response came like clockwork, only minutes after Trump announced the deal to reopen the government for three weeks with no guarantee of wall funds. It was unsurprising considering conservative figures including Coulter were some of the initial instigators who prodded Trump to shut down the government to get his wall.

    After the White House revealed in December it could back off from Trump's demands for over $5 billion in border wall funding to avoid a shutdown, Coulter mocked the president on Twitter, leading to a feud in which Trump unfollowed one of his biggest campaign supporters.

    "The chant wasn't 'SIGN A BILL WITH B.S. PROMISES ABOUT "BORDER SECURITY" AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, GUARANTEED TO FAIL!' It was "BUILD A WALL!" Coulter tweeted in December.

    During a March interview with The New York Times' Frank Bruni, Coulter said Trump should feel the "fear of God" if he doesn't build the wall, arguing his supporters would leave him en masse unless he fulfills his campaign promise.

    "He could sell Ivanka Trump merchandise from the Oval Office if he would just build the wall," Coulter said. "If he doesn't change course, no, they're never coming back."


    Trump announced the deal with Democrats during an address in the Rose Garden on Friday afternoon, where he continued to emphasize the need for physical barriers on the border. The deal will reopen the government only until Feb. 15, after which Trump said he would reshutter the government or declare a national emergency if he does not secure funding for the wall by then.

    But Trump's description of what kind of wall he wants has evolved in a notable concession to his critics. Trump said Friday that natural barriers already provide ample protection in some parts of the border, and that resources for border control should also focus on ports of entry and technology developments beyond a physical barrier.

    "The walls that we are building are not medieval walls. They are smart walls designed to meet the needs of front-line border agents and are operationally effective," Trump said. "We do not need 2,000 miles of concrete wall from sea to shining sea, we never did, we never proposed that."

    He did propose that, however. Many times. And it was what many of his most ardent conservative followers called on him to do. But with the government shutdown stretching past a month and vital government services reaching a breaking point, the president apparently calculated that he had little choice but to concede. Trump's approval rating also suffered from the standoff, with The Associated Press showing about 60 percent of Americans blaming Trump for the shutdown.

    But Malice didn't think conceding to Democrats was likely to help Trump among his most core base.

    "Jeb Bush is laughing so hard rn that he's about to choke on his own puke," Malice tweeted.




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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,705
    Every expert with this kind of thing has said that the wall is a dumb idea that won't be effective, not to mention the terrible environmental impact. And of course all the stats about crime and smuggling and terrorists that Trump spews to pump up the wall have all be disproven as well, and all the other points of entry would still be available anyhow, so the $50 BILLION it would take to build and all the billions more it would take to maintain and monitor would be a complete waste of money even if people didn't go under and over it. I can't believe a single American still supports such a dumb idea. It's just insanity.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    The Juggler said:
    He’s going to start losing his base now...


    Do you know why GHW was considered a wimp?  Common sense says if you flew missions in WW2, that should exclude you from the wimp category.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Meltdown99 said:
    The Juggler said:
    He’s going to start losing his base now...


    Do you know why GHW was considered a wimp?  Common sense says if you flew missions in WW2, that should exclude you from the wimp category.
    I don't consider him one but he was perceived that way just because of his mannerisms and for going back on his pledge to not raise taxes. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,885
    Meltdown99 said:
    The Juggler said:
    He’s going to start losing his base now...


    Do you know why GHW was considered a wimp?  Common sense says if you flew missions in WW2, that should exclude you from the wimp category.
    We don't like pilots who crash
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    They'll be back to work, get another check, Trump throws a tantrum, they are furloughed again.  Would not surprise me.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mrussel1 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    The Juggler said:
    He’s going to start losing his base now...


    Do you know why GHW was considered a wimp?  Common sense says if you flew missions in WW2, that should exclude you from the wimp category.
    We don't like pilots who crash
    lol.  the shame
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Why do we, or anyone else, give two shits what Ann Coulter has to say?
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    my2hands said:
    Why do we, or anyone else, give two shits what Ann Coulter has to say?
    I think gauging the pulse of his base is pretty important
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    my2hands said:
    Why do we, or anyone else, give two shits what Ann Coulter has to say?
    Because, as pathetic as our current situation is, that situation is one in which Ann Coulter Seriously influences policy decisions in the White House.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,705
    edited January 2019
    my2hands said:
    Why do we, or anyone else, give two shits what Ann Coulter has to say?
    My guess is because your President actually does things as a reaction to what she and many other media personalities say, and because Trump attacks the news media like a true fascist. That's also why people kind of now have to give a shit what the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity say.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,935
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Pelosi is a great politician but I despise her because of her stance on the 2nd Amendment.  
    You complain that the two sides can't compromise and then say you despise someone who you disagree with on one policy issue.
    That would be correct.  
    you must hate Ed too and most of us here then.
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