jeff on chris and recording

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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,916
    It's a bit of a bummer they're not making much headway on a new album.    I still don't find it surprising.  We've watched many veteran acts slow down their creative input in their later years.   I never thought PJ would be immune to what we've seen happen to countless other bands.

    At least there's 2 parts of being in a rock bands.   Recording and Performing.  Even if you struggle with one, you've still got the other.   The live show's are still pretty damn good, so I'd much prefer the current scenario of 20ish live shows a year to a complete halt.   Hope it continues.  Album will be gravy whenever it comes out.
  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,961
    stuckinline said:
    Jammalambo said:
    slobberdog68 said:

    “Can’t Deny Me,” as a standalone single to coincide with their tour. “Yeah, that was fun,” Gossard says. “I’m glad we got to do that. That was a little bit of a star from one of the ones that we had recorded, so we’re hoping to get some more of that going.”

    If this is true, maybe we don't want a new album  :o 


    Am I reading this right? Does it really mean that was basically the best track coming out from the ones already recorded? Well.. I don't know what to think about it. Or maybe yes, I know, but wouldn't be safe for this forum. Man...
    That’s how I read it. Can’t Deny Me is the best track
    I hope you guys aren't right on that.  I hope the well is not dry, but maybe that's why the forthcoming album has been almost a year in the waiting game, and likely much longer. There may just not be quality material to go with right now.  I'd rather keep waiting than get a full out stinker of an album. 
  • Deadman
    Deadman Posts: 795
    Jammalambo said:
    slobberdog68 said:

    “Can’t Deny Me,” as a standalone single to coincide with their tour. “Yeah, that was fun,” Gossard says. “I’m glad we got to do that. That was a little bit of a star from one of the ones that we had recorded, so we’re hoping to get some more of that going.”

    If this is true, maybe we don't want a new album  :o 


    Am I reading this right? Does it really mean that was basically the best track coming out from the ones already recorded? Well.. I don't know what to think about it. Or maybe yes, I know, but wouldn't be safe for this forum. Man...
    Nothing is safe for this forum.
  • given2fly23
    given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,042
    JT167846 said:
    given2fly23 said:
    JT167846 said:
    Can understand if he's ok with the solo stuff from a cash point of view as he sells out the same places solo as the band does-that's huge bucks.
    What?  EV plays theaters.  PJ plays arenas, amphitheaters and stadiums.
    I went to the Dublin gig in 2017. 14000 capacity and chockablock full. I imagine it's not the only arena he's done solo. Apologies if I implies every gig was in an arena. Would have loved to have seen him in Taormina. 
    I was there too.  That's the exception, not the rule.  3Arena was the biggest place he would play solo (probably in part due to Glen's draw in Dublin too) and would be considered very small for PJ.
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  • JT167846
    JT167846 Posts: 996
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    stuckinline said:
    Jammalambo said:
    slobberdog68 said:

    “Can’t Deny Me,” as a standalone single to coincide with their tour. “Yeah, that was fun,” Gossard says. “I’m glad we got to do that. That was a little bit of a star from one of the ones that we had recorded, so we’re hoping to get some more of that going.”

    If this is true, maybe we don't want a new album  :o 


    Am I reading this right? Does it really mean that was basically the best track coming out from the ones already recorded? Well.. I don't know what to think about it. Or maybe yes, I know, but wouldn't be safe for this forum. Man...
    That’s how I read it. Can’t Deny Me is the best track
    I hope you guys aren't right on that.  I hope the well is not dry, but maybe that's why the forthcoming album has been almost a year in the waiting game, and likely much longer. There may just not be quality material to go with right now.  I'd rather keep waiting than get a full out stinker of an album. 
    Agree. To quote Adam Jones, "It's not good when it's done, it's done when it's good".
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  • JT167846
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    given2fly23 said:
    JT167846 said:
    given2fly23 said:
    JT167846 said:
    Can understand if he's ok with the solo stuff from a cash point of view as he sells out the same places solo as the band does-that's huge bucks.
    What?  EV plays theaters.  PJ plays arenas, amphitheaters and stadiums.
    I went to the Dublin gig in 2017. 14000 capacity and chockablock full. I imagine it's not the only arena he's done solo. Apologies if I implies every gig was in an arena. Would have loved to have seen him in Taormina. 
    I was there too.  That's the exception, not the rule.  3Arena was the biggest place he would play solo (probably in part due to Glen's draw in Dublin too) and would be considered very small for PJ.
    Na it wasn't Glen. Was most probably that big drunk salad dodger who got on stage for Black who scared Ed into booking a venue that could fit his knacker family...
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  • Renfield
    Renfield NYC NY Posts: 1,054
    edited January 2019
    JT167846 said:
    given2fly23 said:
    JT167846 said:
    given2fly23 said:
    JT167846 said:
    Can understand if he's ok with the solo stuff from a cash point of view as he sells out the same places solo as the band does-that's huge bucks.
    What?  EV plays theaters.  PJ plays arenas, amphitheaters and stadiums.
    I went to the Dublin gig in 2017. 14000 capacity and chockablock full. I imagine it's not the only arena he's done solo. Apologies if I implies every gig was in an arena. Would have loved to have seen him in Taormina. 
    I was there too.  That's the exception, not the rule.  3Arena was the biggest place he would play solo (probably in part due to Glen's draw in Dublin too) and would be considered very small for PJ.
    Na it wasn't Glen. Was most probably that big drunk salad dodger who got on stage for Black who scared Ed into booking a venue that could fit his knacker family...
    That guy was awful!! Other than that, a fabulous concert, both Glen & Ed. Did you also go to Cork? I loved that space, was 2nd row standing in front of Ed.
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  • given2fly23
    given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,042
    Renfield said:
    JT167846 said:
    given2fly23 said:
    JT167846 said:
    given2fly23 said:
    JT167846 said:
    Can understand if he's ok with the solo stuff from a cash point of view as he sells out the same places solo as the band does-that's huge bucks.
    What?  EV plays theaters.  PJ plays arenas, amphitheaters and stadiums.
    I went to the Dublin gig in 2017. 14000 capacity and chockablock full. I imagine it's not the only arena he's done solo. Apologies if I implies every gig was in an arena. Would have loved to have seen him in Taormina. 
    I was there too.  That's the exception, not the rule.  3Arena was the biggest place he would play solo (probably in part due to Glen's draw in Dublin too) and would be considered very small for PJ.
    Na it wasn't Glen. Was most probably that big drunk salad dodger who got on stage for Black who scared Ed into booking a venue that could fit his knacker family...
    That guy was awful!! Other than that, a fabulous concert, both Glen & Ed. Did you also go to Cork? I loved that space, was 2nd row standing in front of Ed.
    Yeah, I was at Cork too (rail on Mike's side). Overall Cork was better (you're right, Black in Dublin was so awful) but that Jeremy in Dublin had me bawlin'. Couldn't stop thinking about Chris. 
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  • JT167846
    JT167846 Posts: 996
    Didn't make Cork. Travel is my first love and I remember having a trip to the Middle East right after so could only afford to see him the once. Though I've managed to combine the two on occasion which is a privilege if you can do it.
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Firenze in 2017 had 50,000 plus and he was the only one noteworthy on the bill. 

    With regards to the best song I would not worry too much about it. I am sure the band thinks MYM and Sirens were the best off of LB but we all know for most of us there are better offerings. 
  • Renfield
    Renfield NYC NY Posts: 1,054
    edited January 2019
    given2fly23 said:
    Renfield said:
    JT167846 said:
    given2fly23 said:
    JT167846 said:
    given2fly23 said:
    JT167846 said:
    Can understand if he's ok with the solo stuff from a cash point of view as he sells out the same places solo as the band does-that's huge bucks.
    What?  EV plays theaters.  PJ plays arenas, amphitheaters and stadiums.
    I went to the Dublin gig in 2017. 14000 capacity and chockablock full. I imagine it's not the only arena he's done solo. Apologies if I implies every gig was in an arena. Would have loved to have seen him in Taormina. 
    I was there too.  That's the exception, not the rule.  3Arena was the biggest place he would play solo (probably in part due to Glen's draw in Dublin too) and would be considered very small for PJ.
    Na it wasn't Glen. Was most probably that big drunk salad dodger who got on stage for Black who scared Ed into booking a venue that could fit his knacker family...
    That guy was awful!! Other than that, a fabulous concert, both Glen & Ed. Did you also go to Cork? I loved that space, was 2nd row standing in front of Ed.
    Yeah, I was at Cork too (rail on Mike's side). Overall Cork was better (you're right, Black in Dublin was so awful) but that Jeremy in Dublin had me bawlin'. Couldn't stop thinking about Chris. 
    So we were 10 feet from each other?! That version of Jeremy in Dublin was spectacular, truly magical. Starting with the opening song, Trouble.. I heard the 1st notes, grabbed my sister’s arm and began crying. One of my fav Cat songs (he’s in my top 5). Heard Chris sing it live in 2013, The Cat himself in 2014, then Ed in ‘17- I’m very lucky! I don’t have a favorite of those 2 shows- loved both pretty equally. But it was cool to be so close in Cork
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  • kramer73
    kramer73 Posts: 2,634
    bootlegger10 said:
    I wonder if Kelly Curtis talks  to Jeff about comments like this.  I doubt it. 
    They aren't exactly obligated to write a new record.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    Jeff says he sounds like a broken record but I don't recall ever reading comments like this before. Does anyone else? I may have just missed them.
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  • NewJPage
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    JimmyV said:
    Jeff says he sounds like a broken record but I don't recall ever reading comments like this before. Does anyone else? I may have just missed them.
    He said almost the same thing about a year ago in a interview 
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  • mcgruff10
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    JimmyV said:
    Jeff says he sounds like a broken record but I don't recall ever reading comments like this before. Does anyone else? I may have just missed them.
    Maybe he has said it privately to members of the band?
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  • Gern Blansten
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    Brendan O'Brien has been telling them to get together more and focus on PJ music rather than all the side projects for years.  I guess they don't listen to BOB.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Gern Blansten said:
    Brendan O'Brien has been telling them to get together more and focus on PJ music rather than all the side projects for years.  I guess they don't listen to BOB.
    that's a good start. 
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    NewJPage said:
    JimmyV said:
    Jeff says he sounds like a broken record but I don't recall ever reading comments like this before. Does anyone else? I may have just missed them.
    He said almost the same thing about a year ago in a interview 
    Well there ya go. I did miss it.
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  • cincybearcat
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    That sucks.  Since Jeff and Stone seem interested...I agree with whoever said go get Neil Young and make Mirrorball 2.  I certainly don't want PJ to break up, but I'd love to have an album that Stone and Jeff make together with whoever they want.  Maybe Shawn Smith?  Whatever...I just want some new music from these guys.  I like Jeff's album, but I want more!!!! I know, I'm selfish.
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  • TheLuckyOnes
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    cincybearcat said:
    That sucks.  Since Jeff and Stone seem interested...I agree with whoever said go get Neil Young and make Mirrorball 2.  I certainly don't want PJ to break up, but I'd love to have an album that Stone and Jeff make together with whoever they want.  Maybe Shawn Smith?  Whatever...I just want some new music from these guys.  I like Jeff's album, but I want more!!!! I know, I'm selfish.
    Surprised to find myself agreeing with that idea ... but at this point I definitely do.
    I'm the PJ fan that is sick of the merch conversations and chasing, burned out on boots old and new.
    I've only seen about ten PJ live shows, which is nothing compared to so many, but a lot compared to average music fan w/their respective favorite band. I'm definitely excited for another show, but less so then ever by far, due both to me ageing and the band ageing.
    The only way I'll ever be truly excited over this band again is new quality music. I've given this band my full intention and passion as a fan since 27 years ago now. They don't owe me anything, but if they're done giving then I probably am too. I can't subsist on scraps anymore.

    It's quite obvious that Mike and Jeff are the two guys who are really pushing themselves to keep active in music.
    Matt put out a solo album last year, so we know he's still creative and in fighting shape.

    I had always wondered if Stone was the guy who is least excited about the band for the last decade, but it sounds like he's ready to get at it right now, which is really exciting news to me. I believe this band is at it's best when Stone is guiding the music. Everybody has added classic songs to the bunch, but Stone's riffs and songs have left room for Ed's best vocals and melodies. I'd argue Ed has to be a better singer when singing Stone's songs.

    So at this point, as someone who wants real, quality, original heartfelt songs, I'll take as much Jeff and Stone collaboration as I can get.
    I'm realistic about the length of time it takes to write, rehearse, edit, record, mix, master, and prepare marketing and artwork for a major Pearl Jam record. I don't want some half-done internet drop, and the band doesn't either. We all want a classic recorded and packaged album. 
    If Ed isn't feeling like doing music right now, due to family life, charity work, no interest, etc.whatever...then maybe some configuration of the band makes one without him. That sucks, and could effectively end the band..
    But It's else that, or he punches the clock, rolls the sleeves up, dive in to the work.

     I'm in a band, I've always been in bands. They're messy and full of small tensions and competitions over which path to send the group down...PJ is no different. But they need to get messy for awhile; try,fail, try again. That's how every band knocks out songs they are proud of.

    Sounds like they're waiting for him.
    I know I am.

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